Hey guys, I'm new at this.....what would it cost to take the train from Moscow to Cheboksary, in the Chuvashia Republic? How long is the ride, miles and time? Also, do you know if my Russian visa is good for entry into the Chuvashia Republic? It's part of the Russian Federation. Another thing is....my lady friend says that Moscow is dangerous.....she says she doen't want to go there for the fear of getting "plundered", pickpocketed....what's your take guys?
Train in a way of 12 hours 21 minute, it's cost's 1129.3 RUR ( ~ 40$)
about visa, I think u dont need a special visa of Chuvashia, but I'm not confident, by the way, for your lady so easily go to Moscow,I don't understand about dangerous fo her.
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Номер поезда (№ of train): 054Г
Тип поезда (tipe of train): СК ФИРМ
Фирменный (Firm train,lux ): Да
Дни следования(Days of following): ЕЖ
Маршрут поезда(Route of a train): МОСКВА КАЗ - ЧЕБОКСАРЫ
Дата и время отправления(date & time of departure): 28-Дек-2004 20:46
Дата и время прибытия(date & time of arrival): 29-Дек-2004 09:07
Время в пути(Time in a way): 12:21
Расстояние (distance): 768
As long as your Visa was submitted with that city on your itenary, I don't see any issue. You need to register once you arrive, of course.
Your lady may have not been to Moscow before. It is true that pickpockets abound, but I can say the same for any major city.
My take on this is that unless you have been to Moscow before and feel comfortable there yourself and with taking care of her; then don't force the issue. Even then, if she doesn't want to go, then honor her wish.
Again, my feeling is she hasn't been there before. Myself, I have never been there, but many I have spoken to say it is crowded all the time. Kind of sounds like New York City to me, and I have no problem with NYC. If you have a good grasp of Russian (read and speak), you probalby won't have many issues, other than the cultural ones. You can prepare yourself, but I think being there is the only way to be get a real handle on it.
The train is about a 12hour ride at night (as your schedule shows). There are flights as well, if you wish to spend the extra money and reduce your travel time to about 3 hours (each way).
I had been planning a trip there myself, until my relationship just recently went south.
scott, thanks for the info. I do want to meet with her in Moscow. I work for the airlines currently.....and Moscow is one of the few cities I have not visited. I'll aproach her meeting me in Moscow.....if that doesn't work I'll just go visit her in Cheboksary. If she makes excuses that it's cold, dreary or whatever.....then I'll know that she's just after the money. For what it's worth. She said, she was burned by an American last year. She spent money for her visa and plane fare to the USA, Los Angeles to be exact....the guy according to her never showed. She was led to believe once she was there, "he'd be footing the bill". Again, this is according to her. Then, she was stranded and had to be helped by the Russian Consulate to get home. I'm approaching this whole thing with skepticism. But this gal is such a "babe", I'm trying to see it through without getting my pockets tapped. But since I've joined this forum.....I've heard a lot stories that make me proceed with caution. Again, thanks for the info. Also, one last thing. Does anyone know if our letters sent to Russia at their home address.....addressed to them in ENGLISH get there? I guess what I'm trying to say is can they read ENGLISH at their post office? thanks guys
First time I ever heard of a russian woman being scammed by an american after SHE spent her money to obtain an impossible to obtain visa to enter the US (Keep in mind LA is the west coast nerve center for FSU mafia porno/prostitution industry, though)
For years now, the only US visas FSU citizens may obtain on their own are student visas....and those are very hard to qualify for, as well.
It should not be to hard for you to find a third party to verify her story or even her existence via agency or P.I. services.
Hey Toad, again this is her story. I want to believe her, but somehow I don't. After being on the forum for a few days, I've learned just how hard it is for a Russian to get a visa.....especially, a lady who doesn't make squat! She's not a student anymore 'cuz she's already graduated from Cheboksary University. I hear that for them to get a visa, they need to show proof of employment.....they gotta have a good job! Right? Not to sound ignorant, what do the initials FSU stand for? I've seen that the last few days since I've joined the forum. Thanks for all the info!Late, Socalboy
if she's been there she must avail over stamps in her passport. Ask a scan of these? If she just 'lost' her passport you'll know you're going to be just a visitor only in Moscow but hey, also worthwhile suppose.
Toad's not the only one who thinks this story is fishy but then again he fishing, or at least tries to :)
Thunderdome, thanks again.....I'm learning more and more I check-in with you guys. By the way, No one has answered my question in regards to sending letters (mail) to Russia. Since I don't write in Russian, do letters addressed in English get to there destinations....ie, does their postal service read English? Thanks for helping the "greenhorn" out.
Yes, but do make sure you've got the spelling correct (ask her). Some say it takes a bit longer but I've never noticed, and letters arrive normally.
Letters Greenhorn :) , packages containing anything of value you courier. I've lost books already (sent by mail), but nothing sent by courier.
I have sent letters to Ukraine that had her address in English and there has been no problems. A better soulution is to have her email you her address using Cyrillic then copy to something like the label program for MS Word and run a page of labels off. Just be sure to add the destination country at the bottom in English for your postal people. Put your return address in English but add the cyrillic symbols for USA at the bottom just in case there is a problem with delivery.
I would also agree with toad and Thunder, something is definetly not right with her story.
thanks again, bill....it's a learning process, this russian internet "thing" is a trip. but i', proceeding with caution.....eyes wide open and getting the much needed info from you guys. the info on mailing was great. did you use fed ex or ups, thunderdome? late, socalboy
Well, I don't know if she sound like a scammer just yet. I find it strange for her to have the money to come to the U.S. unless he footed the bill and never showed up. Strange, but not impossible.
Personally, the only thing you are out of right now is time, possibly the money to go there. I don't know if I would be willing to ruin a possible relationship with accusations until I know more and/or have met her.
When she asks for money is when to be paranoid. Not wanting to go to Moscow is a good thing for certain reasons. Moscow is one of the most expensive places to tour around in Europe. There are some women that want you to take them to Moscow so they can go to all the expensive restuarants, etc. That is not to say that Cheboksary is a whirlwind of adventure, either.
There IS an online site that has info about Cheboksary with pictures, etc. It IS in Russian!
I don't have it available to me just this moment, but I can try to post it later.
I've used various, our postal services couriers also.
Yeah Scot, I agree, but fishy it is hence he could ask for a scan of her passport. Put it this way - I would. Her answer in itself will tell the story.
Then again Socal, the only reason why you want to meet in Moscow seems to be the fact that you've not been there yet. Travelling overnight per train to this big city from her town is maybe what she refers to as being dangerous, and hustlers/pickpocketers may well bother lone women travelling, they apparently do men sometimes.
But here Stranger can help us out!
Stranger, don't be one, give us the lowdown on travelling per train in Russia? There's been lots of stories doing the rounds varying from being safe to dangerous - I'm interested in your opinion.
Hey Guys, it's me Mr. Newbie......just got through writing my Cheboksary babe about my visiting her. I basically told her that she could meet me in Moscow via train, or I could come to Cheboksary or even Kazan. Which is about 75 miles away from her. The money thing for travel is a no-brainer. I work for the airlines so I get get to London for nothing and fly London/Moscow round trip for about $200.00/$250.00. I just laid it out on the line for her. The way I figure is she has three options for us to see each other, so if she balks at all three then we all know she's in it for the money. However, I do feel that she's genuine about her feelings for me. Anyhow, I'll keep you guys abreast......again thanks for all of the helpful advice. We're all in this together. Late, Socalboy
yop Thunder,I can help with this question.
Principles simple: 1, Be close and look behind the things. 2, do not drink alcoholic drinks in a train 3, Never exchange currency at station 4, at Night in a train close doors not only on the lock, there there is a special latch at the top of a door. Outside to open then it is impossible.5, do not take a taxi at stations and at the airports. The taxi there is more expensive in two or three times. If it is station pass one quarter aside and there the taxi will be much cheaper. 6, do not carry the large sums of money at itself. Store or in the safe in hotel or on a plastic card.
These are key rules of behaviour. Be reasonable and all will be in the order.
You nothing to be afraid, accept if your lady is gangster and want you to plunder ))))
it's joke certainly.
OOPs,i forgotten !! And dont speak with strangers))))))))
Stranger, thanks for the "David Letterman top 6 safe ways to travel by train in Russia". Actually, these are good rules to follow in any big city around the world. Anyhow, my mother told me I shouldn't talk to strangers.....lol! By the way, I got a letter back from my hottie in Cheboksary. I gave her 3 options, meet me Moscow, her home town Of Cheboksary or nearby in Kazan. She chose for me to come meet her in her hometown. So, in mid-February off I go to the Chuvashia Republic to meet with her. I told her if things went well between us, THEN, I could help with arrangements for her to come to the USA. She said, bring your warm close......so I will. I guess she doesn't know I lived in Chicago for many years, so I'm used to brutal winter weather. Anyhow, I'm counting on her to keep me warm, right?.......Hey guys one other question at just came up. She does'nt have a phone, so I'm wondering, do they sell phone cards to the US?.....how much are they? I'd like to send her a few bucks so we could talk.....also, what's the best way to send money there? It would'nt be a lot, maybe $50 us......thanks, socalboy (Mr.Newbie or greenhorn)