Bagira,
You're jealous, vindictive and a lesser mind.
But your condition is not terminal or permanent.
All you have to do is wait till the next time you must look in the mirror and admit you do not like what you see...it will get better from there.
Good luck to you, woman...:)
Bag,
You should be happy for Happy Toad. How many men can say they traveled to Siberia to find his love ? That is some serious bragging rights from my point of view. His male friends will envy his ass and the women he knows will squirm and show contempt when she naturally outclasses them all by just being herself.
Jmo, you hit the nail on the head regarding my friends and some of the women I know.
But not all of them are callous jealous bitches.
Some are simply protective of me and concerned about scams only because they do not know Lena, her family, her background, her education, her goals, her dreams or even how she handles herself in her every day life.
It's hard for them to assimilate the confidence born from the long and extensive search I did over the last year or what I learnt along the way in this and other forums.
I intentionally let everyone know exactly why I went to Siberia in winter and what I did there just to see their eyes bulge in surprise.
And yes, I do love it when they get all worked up about it..:((
Yesterday I went to Costco to process the digital photos I took in Siberia.
The lady that took my envelop order has a distinct european accent and when I asked her where she was from she had this expression of: "Oh no, here's another ignorant american who never heard of Kazhasktan and will make some stupid comment about it"
But instead I said: "Oh, yes, my fiance from Tyumen had to fly to Almaty last year for a job interview with a western european school director, but nothing came of it"
The surprise on her face was so shocking, that I had to tell her not all american men are ignorant mommy boys and married to rude fat despotic women....
For some reason Costco seems to employ a large number of eastern european women.
either that or there is an invasion of FSU brides in California that I did not know about..:))
Go to RWG forum man... Do not get emotionally involved before you meet her for your own sake.... I had an experience where I wrote this completely lovable girl for 3 months... got there and she was the ice queen.... I have to admit I was happy about it because I met so many wonderful women.
Remember this too, while I was checking my e-mail in the dating agency.... allmost every single woman that came in to check her e-mails.. from guys... asked if I would date them ( to the agency owner ) You would probably experience the same thing because if you are there, you are real. My point is they too were writing guys and had zero issues with dating someone actually there.
Joe,
Even after having talked, written and ICQ'd with Lena for over a year, I held off on the emotional committment until we actually met in person, saw how she leads her life, how her family welcomed me and I asked all the questions of her I wanted to ask while I looked at her pretty eyes.
My concerns about the age difference were, and still partially are, deeper than yours. my 49 to her 27.
She put a lot of these concerns to rest with simple, direct and to the point answers like "I want you because you're the best man I know", "show me another man who comes to siberia in winter to see just one woman", "you understand me, make laugh and taught me to be patient when I needed it the most" "the age difference will keep you from chasing younger women when I get older" "you like traveling as much as I do", and on and on and on...:))
One of the best answers to a question I did not ask was seeing her one morning going through the employment ads of the Sunday paper I brought her.
She wanted to know what a "glazer" does..:))
First, I had to explain what glazed glass is.
Someone she knows is married to a man in the midwest.
She took a job at a supermarket, 'paper or plastic' type of work and she was worried she'd have to do something like that in California because she knows the cost of living here is much higher and wants to make sure she contributes to the family income without delay.
This woman is so overqualified to do just about anything she wants in the foreign languages field that teaching and or translations jobs will rain on her like there is no tomorrow.
I told her I want her to help me with my businesses first.
If that does not work then she can look for a job elsewhere.
These and many other topics are best discussed long before you make the jump on that plane. she maybe a wonderful person, but if yuo do not have common goals you'll both be wasting your times.
After reading an article written by Jane Ghandal I found it appropriate to live up this old thread again...
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"MORE FEMININE: Russian women are more feminine and are not afraid to be female and dress as a woman should." (Oh no! What am I to do with that drawer full of jeans?) "That's because Russian women have to compete with each other, due to the severe shortage of men. American women whine about the shortage of American bachelors. They should thank their lucky stars that they aren't in Russia, where the average man dies at age 55, often after a lifetime of alcoholism."
I'm thankful, I'm thankful! Although, perhaps if I moved to Russia, married and took out a lot of life insurance ...
"NOT PURITANICAL: Russian women are not raised with the sexual hang-ups of American women. They are not prudish about sex or nudity."
Is anyone surprised by this? How else do you fill up those interminably long, cold nights?
"TRADITIONAL VALUES: Russian women are raised with the traditional values that American women had back in the 1950s."
Wait -- does this mean they are traditional but also sexually wild? That conjures up an image of June Cleaver after hours: tossing away her ubiquitous apron and strapping on the leather bustier and stilettos.
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NO, it only means they like themselves, they understand they do not 'need' you, but if you're a worthy man they'll 'want' you and therefore will compromise to make a good marriage work, justl ike you will have to do to become the responsible monogamous provider the family needs.
I will have to admit the passion aspect with Larisa is unequaled to anything I have ever had in my previous life. It is truly amazing.
She is feminine and strong and I admire that much in her.
You guys are on the right track with the women in the FSU. I was lucky in that I have a friend in the city where my lady lives (Vitebsk) so when I went there last month everything was cool. No not cool, more like frozen for this Texas boy. It it a real bitch in the winter, so Toad "Hats Off". The advantage of sending flowers and getting a picture as a tool is best done unanounced so you see the real woman. But exteriors are not interiors and careful letters do more than use up ink. I'm starting the VISA program this mounth and we are both committed to life together. American women almost act resentful like the FSU girls are pouching. When I try to explain about how our women have lost the path they just shake thier overweight butts and talk like they realy run something. More and more men in Texas are going to the FSU everyday. The oil industry has opened up our eyes to "virgin hunting grounds".
Last November I was a hair away from choosing Vitebsk, Belarus over Tyumen, Siberia...But only because Vitebsk offered a better back up plan option.
I don't regret the decision I made in the end. It's all working out for the best now.
And uncle, you do not take off your hat in winter there..:))
I went to a friends birthday party last weekend. Now this is blue blooded republican Orange County white suburban middle upper class California territory we're talking about. At least half of the guests at the party were foreign born, raised and educated.
The american born women were out-classed and out-dressed by the three FSU women present.
It was a significant event for me, because it was the first time since I started looking for FSU women that I felt validate and supported by the majority of the people I was telling my intentions, findings and travel experience in Siberia.
Quite refreshing to see how Irina, a 40+ woman from Minsk and married to a brit guy made me promise I'd let her be like Lena's adopted older sister to help her adjust to life in So Cali with a western man.
I "recruited" two new men ready to make the jump and asked me where to look for FSU women. At the same time, the american women who came hoping to hook up with them were throwing me hateful looks all night long.
Oh well, we can't please them all..:))
More than ever before, I think men are going to FSU to meet, court, romance, love and marry women to bring home in the US.
The media is paying little or no attention to this event, and whatever is reported is usually isolated and extreme cases of negative, sensationalistic occurrences only used to paint the whole phenomema is a bad light.
I would just like to say that i disagree with Bagira friend's opinion.First of all sterotypes of any kind have no more than a grain of truth in them...that's how the come to be.However an entire nation can not all be the same way,that's simply narrowminded and assine thinking.I am 42yrs old and after traveling the world for well over a decade and having lived in and assimilated myself into many other countries in my time i humbly consider myself to be somewhat of an amateur cultural anthropologist as well somone who has been searching for somthing alot deeper than just sex.I have had girlfriends of many diffrent nationalities in the past and although i am sure that SOME Russian/Ukranian women are as Bagira's friend described,having just gotten engaged to a 30yr old Ukranian women myself all i can say is that she is an absolute jewel and unlike many others whom i have previously deemed somehow flawed...at least for me, when considering a wife.In my personal expierence Ukranian women are self sacrificing,generous,family orientated...they laugh easily and are more down to earth than other nationalities..especially Western ones.I did not meet my future wife on some internet site,we met under special and romantic circumstances and although she does indeed turn heads wherever we go ,she also possess a humility and shyness regarding her looks which i have never found in a gorgeous women before now.I would highly recomend dating/marrying a Ukranian women to anyone who is searching for a gentler,long term love...one which will have you still holding hands long after the pasion and fire has..if not disappeared,at least cooled.Good luck!
Russian women are nothing desperate to escape their country. They say anything to do that.
Why do they not stay in their world and work to change it for the better? It's easier to find some "Sugar Daddy" in the West and claim how important "good" values are to them.
I have been to the former Soviet Union more times than I care to remember. It's a world of corruption and greed. The women have had many relationships with Russian men, yet they claim to want traditional values. Why did they hook up with these men? Because they are no different. They just want you to think otherwise (it's called intelligence). It is such baloney sent to our world by those seeking to profit off of it.
I bet if you look up the quotes above, you will find someone with some website to "introduce" you to "fine, traditional, honest" Russian women -- at some price, i.e. $$$$$. All of these sites are rackets. It's all about making a buck. Grow up and see that and you will be better off ditching this, cutting your losses and running away right now.
I can assure you that the "people" in Russia who run such sites are not the Boy Scouts. I learned much about this from my sources when I wroked for US Government. My knowledge is my power.
Cheers and good luck! If you get taken, do not say that you have not been warned!
Mr. one thru four,
You should really take your sop a peddle it elsewhere. This is a forum for men…not little boys having a temper tantrum because something did not work out for them. If you have something constructive to add then fine, but you speak in generalities and stereotypes and that has absolutely no value whatsoever. I am an American male who has not been rejected by the women here but on the contrary I am quite tired of the local water buffalos masquerading as human females. I have been to Ukraine twice now and I find your premises without merit. Just because you are an abject failure in your life do not attribute your personality flaws to the rest of us, although it would appear that one of your defects is that you think just because someone comes from a certain class or area of the world they must be all alike and not capable of independent action or thought. The fact that you mention in previous post that you look to the federal government to protect us helpless males from the terrible hardhearted women from the FSU speaks volumes about who you are. Anyone that would trust the decisions controlling their lives to a group of weasely politicians is a sad excuse for an adult. I suspect that as a child when out playing if you scraped your knee you went running home to mamma to have her kiss it to make it better rather than do as future men would do and just pick yourself up bush off and go on playing. I suspect that there are those that have been regular contributors to this site are sitting back and laughing at you and your stereotypes. There are plenty of success stories here (Glad, Trad, Crash, Jet, etc) but I suspect they will not answer your dribble as they have lives to deal with. So in closing be gone and let us men do what men do and that is lookout for ourselves.
Bill
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