Well its been decided! I am going to buy the ring and ask next time I see her :) For all you unbelievers and cynics out there let me relate my tale.
My girl and I have been dating for about 8 months now. I met her completely by accident and never even planned to date her. Well it was chemistry and this 36 year old fox stole me away from a 20 year bombshell! As time progressed I thought "this girl is too good to be true!" I mean she had been with 2 men before me and both times she was married...... How could I believe some much grarbage arent all women sexually active like our AW? Was she after my money and would she bail when the stakes got too high? Did she want a visa and to get out of there? After reading about others visits and nightmare experiences I was a bit jaded! So heres what happened.
I dated her and got to know her but did not quite trust her. I found we had everything in common and yet some interesteing differences. We had chemistry from hell! So I set up a series of test.... in a way looking for signs of falseness. I told her I would move to her city if we got together.... she was overjoyed! I sent her a large sum of money to purchase our vacation together and she saved me about 2k dollars. I offered to fix anything wrong in her life and she firmly but gently declined saying there will allways be problems and she had handled them before and could continue to do so. Her cheating isnt even a consideration. At every turn I found her to be geniune and I also found the mentality of the FSU girl to be far superior to ours....... They dont believe in cheating.... They are femanine but firm.... They are intelligent and cultured.... and they have morales.
My experience has been outstanding and I have met my soulmate.... now I will drop to my knees and present her the ring... I am simply humbled and never in my life felt I would ever meet her! I will also ask her to come to the US but wherever we are we will e happy.
Guys its possible! They are out there! Be smart and dont wear blinders but dont let other folks experiences make you jaded.... You might is out on the best thing that will ever happen to you!
Im done.... I hope it goes as well for all of you as it has for me! God bless gentlemen and good luck!
Not completely understand
"36 year old fox stole me away from a 20 year bombshell" were you hooked up with a 20 year old at the time of meeting her.
Also did you meet her online and did you date her in Russia ???
castaway,
I am very aware of the romantic custom . It only symbolizes the wimpiness and servitude nature of the man towards his wife that we are brainwashed that this is how it should be. That is why we go over there to look for something else.It is a fine display of (honey i am at your mercy for a piece of ass). I took it up the ass enough to know i will never get on my knees for any woman . In fact , it is just another display of weakness that is instilled in men in our western culture that we are below them .Grow a pair and be a man. My former girlfriend in Kyiv and a few women who have written here think it is comical that western men do this . Not me buddy.
Yes it is true . And as far as i know a ring doesnt mean much either even to be married but they sure as hell would be proud to be wearing one . My ex from Kyiv said this and i think even Pitchka said it also . It is nice but not mandatory. I personally would want my lady to have one to let it be known she is called for.
Mmm Interesting
Thats why I asked Jm. Thanx
I have bought my lady a ring and she loves it. but her friends not goo or gaa over it like our westies do (or used too perhaps ????)
"castaway,
I am very aware of the romantic custom . It only symbolizes the wimpiness and servitude nature of the man towards his wife that we are brainwashed that this is how it should be. That is why we go over there to look for something else.It is a fine display of (honey i am at your mercy for a piece of ass). I took it up the ass enough to know i will never get on my knees for any woman . In fact , it is just another display of weakness that is instilled in men in our western culture that we are below them .Grow a pair and be a man. My former girlfriend in Kyiv and a few women who have written here think it is comical that western men do this . Not me buddy.
JMO "
Well I guess opening doors for Ladies is subservient.... or helping them out of the car... maybe I should just bitch-slap her and say "marry me hoe!"... I dont know what UK girls you know but mine doesnt take crap.. She likes me being the man but that also means taking care of her gently and being strong means I have patience and understanding. Your experiences may differ from mine and also you take things too literally :).. For the extreme examples you provide I have provided my own... Maybe whats wrong with Aerican women is guys like you??? Who want to treat them like men and dont want to be gentle or romantic. Shit man dont ruin my day because of your view , You dont wanna do it then dont do it but dont try and make people that do look like wimps because you dont believe in it.. I have lost 3 fillings from having them knocked out in fights I won... I did 11 years in the military in Infantry or worse type jobs.... I dont need to prove my manliness to my woman if she cant see it, then she isnt for me.
Freebird
If it means anything I understand where you are coming from. The one knee thing is largely metaphorical. It is the romantic thought that is important. I myself can think of a number of ways to propose and give a ring that would make it a memorable moment. I don't think that if a man does bend his knee and propose it is subserviant. I think it is a mark of respect and gratitude. I am sure she will see it as exactly that. It is up to the individual. Hopefully it will be a specal moment that the two of you will treasure for the rest of your lives. No matter how the question is asked I hope that you both are as happy as two humans can be. You should both live to be 100 years old and love one another until your last breath.
JMO
I don't know what is the matter man because I know you and you are a good guy but you really need to turn the volume down just a little. I am sure that you didn't mean anything rude or harsh but unfortunately it came across badly. If you ever want to chat I would be happy to speak with you.
Oh please steve,
Put your whip away. If Toad would have delivered what i said it would have been well received. I dont need any counseling but thanks anyway.
jmo
Oh Im not angry I just was trying to make a point :) I know where Jmoluv is coming from, I went there for the exact opposite, Too find a woman who appreciates the things I do for her. If you do these things for a woman that does not appreciate them.... then she is down the road.
My woman gives me more then any other I have met in my life... Like I said I was jaded... very jaded and had extreme difficulties believing she wasnt just acting a part.
Jmoluv had a point but again my point was if I wanted women like it sounds like he is dating ( cold and judgemental) I could get them in America no problem... I wanted a woman worthy of the bent Knee.... and I found one :) In all honesty in my opinion... She is better then I deserve.
JMO
I ain't no fricking wimp, did my service in the army: special forces airborne combat engineer (for the less knowledgeable, that the Green Breats, dude) and all that shit. But make a reservation for Sept. 2 in Vitebsk, Belarus: dude, I will be on my knee and will be happy to bitch slap anyone that gives me or my sweetheart any lip.
Sailor,
Cut out the flag waving . It has nothing to do with being in the service. You missed the whole point of how the men in the western sphere are conditioned to be towards women . As i said to Free it was not a personal attack against any one individual.
I wasn't offering any counseling nor the opportunity for another forum blaze. Although it seems that might be what is happening here. No whip from me. I just think you need to calm down the rhetoric a little. There just seems to be a little hostilty there and I can't think why nobody has tried to put you down. It has been very peaceful in here for the longest time. Now we have folks finding it necessary to defend things that don't really need defending. This is all innocent stuff.