izifaddag
What sort of socialism do you approve "izifaddag"? . The type of Socialism that was practiced failed and enveloped Ukraine Russia Estonia Latvia and the rest up until the late 1980s. Or Maybe the Socialist wonderland of former East Germany or Ceacescus Romania -ALL rejected Socialism in the End.The power of people rejected them. BUT you could always still try out the real live experience of Socialism NOW in North Korea and visit the Socialist wonderland of Cambodia en route and see how they tried to make all the people equal in 1976.
Hello Olegnay,
It has been some 24 hours since you made your claim of making 'right away' contact with a lady in FSU and at around midnight.
Of course we understand that all FSU ladies are sitting in agencies at around midnight waiting for our letters but I doubt that many guys have had such an immediate midnight reply as yourself thus please share your experiences with us .....
olegnay
Send: 29.08.2006 16:44:15
Martin I just send a test email to a girl with agency email asking her about her phone number . I got it right away:)
Martin_UK
Send: 29.08.2006 17:57:42
Olegnay,
I will not argue with you on that point and indeed other guys have not reported the same problem(s) as I experienced, it is for every guy to see as he finds and I am/was obviously far from the only guy to experience the same.
Very interesting though that at 1644 E.S.T. you had just sent an email to a lady with agency email, now that would put the local time in the FSU between, and at the earliest, 2344 hours (practically midnight) and, at the latest, something like 0244 hours in the morning.
I have to congratulate fiance.com on the service they offer for the minimal fee they charge the guys each month, not only do they have H24 agencies but they have H24 ladies that sit in the agencies overnight waiting, and indeed responding to, any guy that should ask for their phone number.
Have you phoned or checked the number Olegnay, might it actually be the agency phone number and indeed, for such a 'right away' reply do you not find it unusual that the lady, just a random lady, was waiting in the agency for you, a guy that she has never heard of nor corresponded with, to ask for her phone number and for her to provide it?
I guess it couldn't have possibly been the agency responding to your letter, after all, who gets paid per letter?
xtc11, I have not travelled much around Eastern Europe, but I have seen a fair amount of Romania, and I was surprised by how many of the locals wished for the return of the days of Ceaucescu.
Yes he was rejected by the people there, as Communism faltered, but there is a VERY popular yearning for the return of his reign. Although, I concede it is reasonably unlikely that he will personally head any new movement !!!
It was difficult to argue any differently, as at least there was an equality in his day. Now, the vast majority of Romanians have to live side by side with an idealised lifestyle that they will never be able to attain. Partly this can be attributed to the 'natural' pain of western capitalism, but a large part can be attributed to the ridiculous IMF demands that have (deliberately?) ruined much of Africa, South America and Asia.
Socialism did not fail - Capitalism won. There IS a difference.
Those who wish to live in the past are those i pity the most...i guess they will just have to wait a little longer until someone invent's a time machine and then i would happily pay their fare's to return to the history book's...lets get real here...we all only have the moment to live in...why many chose to avoid this is almost beyond belief!!!
There is a saying..."those with psychosis have one foot in the past..one foot in the future...and are pissing on today"...who's life is any longer than the moment we are living in?
Let go of the past and start enjoying your life "NOW"...i can offer no better advice to anyone!!!!!
Hi Olegnay,
I got your emsil thanks and I agree to 'no fighting'.
Now, in a moment of boredom, I just had a quick browse of your newest ladies and it is so easy to run a quick check on ladies by running the thru an internet search engine.
Of your most recent ladies please run a search on 'Inga Lomakina' and you will find that such an attractive lady is listed on so many sites that, in reality, she doesn't need to be registered on such a site as fiance.com
Now bearing in mind that I am married to an agency interpreter I have knowledge that a pretty lady can receive 100's of letters per day and from a single website this if such a pretty lady is registered on perhaps 6 websites then it is reasonable to expect that she may receive multiples of 600 letters per day.
I am suggesting however though that the affiliate agency are marketing their good looking 'product' merely for the revenue of correspondence and/or translation and they have done this on at least some 6 websites. I am not suggesting howeever though that fiance.com are in any way to blame for this but I might suggest that when an obviously pretty lady is registered you perform a quick internet search on her to establish the 'product' that you are about to market.
Sir Martin of Fiance.com,
It is quite ironic that of all ladies you choose Inga Lomakina to search. I met her at a European Connections social at the Rus Hotel in Kiev two and one half years ago . She is good looking with a fantastic body and enough English to get by . We made eye contact and had a great evening out . I also dated a couple other ladies i met on this sight and at the social . I thought the chemistry was there for us . I am only 5 years older than her and i am a doctor in Florida. I actually modeled for men`s fashion magazines while being a pre-med student for my money . This is when i met FSU women doing what i did and thought they were a better choice for marriage so that is my story of why i am here. So on my earnings being a physician i can surely give a woman all my best in emotional support and financial support and a promising future.Enough said of that .....
Anyways , we had a great evening and a great next afternoon. She was there by train from Dnepropetrovsk and went back home.We started a great e-mail relationship and there was nothing but good mutual respect and plans for me to return and then for reasons that i will never know she lost all interest to my surprise and piss poor reasons for not answering e-mails.
She did make the comment to me about attending an AFA Social at Dnpr. at a later date when i first met her . And since we have ended our relationship she has been on this sight in many fashions meaning either private e-mail or agency affiliated .
She has a live video clip of herself on the AFA web. Just type search in her name.
Anyhow Martin , it amazes me as to what you found at least 8 or 10 dating sights she belongs to . She claims in every sight she is looking for a serious man , i don`t think so . What she has found is a venue for her self serving network of men who will come to Ukraine and wine and dine her between two cities and everywhere else possible . It is quite simple.The more socials the better . She is having a party. It is her God giving right to do as she pleases but she should croos out the looking for a serious man thing . I don`t think she wants to leave her country. She never received anything from me in money or gifts and she never asked so she really is quite legitimate.
But to the contrary , after what you have found Martin it is quite obvious you found the answer to my lingering question about Inga Lomakina. Yes , she is a professional dater.
'm a new member, and this was the first thread I've come across. I'm not suprised at the venom vanechka is recieving, but a lot of what he says is actually true. Its the way that he says it thats stopping his message from getting across, because he likes trolling and pissing people off. Insulting everone is never a good way to convince people. How do I know he's got a lot of truth? Well, I've been looking into getting a Russian wife for 10 years. I read and write Russsian perfectly, I dont speak very well, but I'm getting better. I've met a few succesful Russian couples, so its NOT IM-possible. Its possible to have a pretty Russian wife who is dedicated to you...BUT not an 18yo Model pretty wife who is going to be maid/sex toy if you are a 45-60 year old troll with a cantilevered beer belly and out of work. If so, she will cheat on you for sure, and leave you the first chance you get. You need to take a big breath, and honestly size yourself up and what YOU have to offer. If all it is is money.... then I have a solution for you, which is what I plan to do in retirement to protect myself. But I'll tell you that later. I have been on marriage tours to Colombia, and when I'm the best looking guy with the best personality, that's SCARY! After my first tour, I learned spanish and man you dont even need a tour! Just put yourself an ad on their foreign language websites in THEIR language. I got 250 responses. Anyway I saw some of the meekest bunny rabbit looking guys let loose in a pack of wolves I would be invisible too. Its not that they'd look at me and reject me here, its that I'd be INVISIBLE. Anyway, at the tour, these guys obviously had no feminine interaction for quite some time, and just couldnt even talk to women. I'm embarassed to say I was too for the first 5 minutes. Its just impossible to have a relationship work without communication. And I can tell you this, if you learn some Russian, Russian women will start coming out of the woodwork. They're all over the US, and a lot of them sleep around. Why do I say this? Because I had an aquaintance's Russian bride coming on to me. She told me her husband had "mental problems", Oh, so to solve that, you go fuck his friend? You see, I can read and write Russian. I'm learning conversation. So lots of married Russian women I meet send me signals. But dont think I am talking down to you guys, because I empathize totally. Its just you're missing Vanechka (wierd girl name for a guy!) message. Let me give you some examples. My first Russian girl I dated lived in Houston. I met her on the Houston date line. I heard her Russian accent and I left her a message in Russian. I got an immediate date. She was in her early thirties, nice efficiency apartment with a little poodle. She was divorced, and wouldnt share why. When I asked if she came here on a K-1 visa, she was shocked. After a bottle of wine, she loosened up and told me that she had got a lawyer, and had to go to court and say some bad things (some lies) to get a temporary green card. She also told me I was too fat for her, maybe I should get into better shape. Now, I doubt I'd hear this from a 34 year old on a Moscow tour, what do you think? So she's a little bit pickier now that she's got the green card. Secondly, I had a rental house next to a Russian couple. It was out of town, and I was repairing it. It so happens that her husband was out of town. Well, guess who comes on to me and asks me to come over? Yeah. So then, Im buying a ticket to Ukraine, and I'm telling my travel agent about the Houston girl, and he tells me about a client in Denver who's going through a nasty divorce, she's falsly accusing him of beating her and its costing him a fortune. And you say women wouldnt lie about that? Look a Susan Smith, she cried and was totally believable, but she drowned those two poor little boys. Women are capable of being wonderful, but also scheming and lying. It all goes back to the Garden and the apple, so be wary guys. I felt so empathetic and sorry for that Russian guy who killed his wife. The A&E "documentary" was so one-sided it was ridiculous. Here's a guy whos a slob- like me. He marries this foxy 18 yo hottie after his first wife leaves him with her new green card. I mean, what a dumb ass, he goes back to his own vomit like a dog. So she probably cheats on him. I mean in the home videos, you can see how repulsed she is to even kiss him, her body language is like pushing him away. So she is going to leave him and he snaps and kills her. Now, there's no excuse for that at all, put him away. But the documentary painted him like some overbearing dominant controller of the relationship. He was just this poor slob who was a weak-willed pussy, and this sharp Russian hottie used him. She was going to school and getting her job and green card ready for departure. And he was like "not again". And this A&E documentary made like this girl is the perfect wife and they show her dancing alone at a disco with this snakeskin lycra bodysuit, grinding her ass like a hip-hop video. Yeah, right. She told him she wanted kids and at the end, he had to beg for 15 minutes a day with her. I mean, for a guy to agree to that, hes a total pussy! That's why the documentary was so full of crap! They try to make this guy into this mean manaical killer, and he's just a guy that had finally had enough. So dont be like that idiot, is what Vanechka is trying to say I think. Be a little street smart. And if you're so horny, that you'll trade away half your life savings for an unlikely happy ending, listen to what I'm going to do. There are many places in the world where visas are easy for Russian women. So just retire there. You can go to Russia, meet your girl, and tell her you want to live together for a while to check compatablility and take her there. Rent your condo, so she dont poison you! And she will take good care of you, because you are it! You dont need to worry, if she goes
Mr Hungwell,
I mentioned about 6 other sites and that was just from a quick scan of a search result, it could be 8, 10 or 20, who knows, but the point I was trying to make was to the administrators of fiance.com was that they could have sourced this information, in 2 minutes for themselves.
Surely fiance.com has an obligation to provide genuine ladies to their fee paying subscribers particularly as fiance.com claim in their 'about us' page to 'screen' all the ladies.
That is merely the point I was trying to make and I happened to pick that lady in particular because of her photo. I was browsing profiles for real for some 5 years and ome learns to easily detect the suspect ones.
Doc, next time don't go to socials, they're f*** traps. The organizers know they must feature pretty faces and hot bods in these parties, so they invite the professional daters (and the hookers off the street). No woman with self respect would ever go to these parties. On a positive note, you lucked you didn't meet an outright hooker who might slip a pill to your drink, rob all your money and take your clothes (many frequent these parties while the organizers pretend they don't know ..)
Martin _UK
I understand your point to fiance .com very well. I appreciate your to the point directivness contrary to the few members who feel they must always challenge your points of view . Then again we supposedly live in a free world. LOL!!!! I think from reading your posts you keep fiance.com on their toes and let them know that we are not stupid humans dying for or at least showing desperation for female companionship. There are real men here looking for a real relationship....
WTRAV , I hear you quite well but it was so much fun.I remember reading back on a thread of an American who was murdered in Odessa last year who was just hanging out and dating.Yes it was a roomfull of beautiful women and it was a meatmarket(but it was sssssooooo sweeeet!!!!. It was a great experience but i will never do it again and maybe i am lucky.
Anyhow Trav, I will write and seek only private e-mailers with good English and take it from there . If it happens ,it will happen from good intuition and lady luck.....
"This enhances my view of how naive men here are.."
Well, I would like to say that I hate pissing all over your parade, but I really can't. I met my beautiful, loving, wife on fiance.com and WE COULD NOT BE HAPPIER. Sure there was a little culture shock, and sure, things could have went bad when I lost my job, but she never once raced for the door! Instead she always would ask me, "What else can I do to help?" Now, we both have good jobs, and we just received word that we are expecting our first child. Oh wait, I guess we are about to become happier. Crawl back under a rock wretch! Da 'Burgh
I have some questions about all this I am on a site called singlebrides.com. Any feed back about this site would be nice. I have had dozens of women write me all most all say the same things. Except this one I met. She was married and now not. Did not at first want to have me pay for her to come to Canada. Now she says she will and wants me to help only. My main question here is How do I know its a scam? How do I know its real? What questions do I ask to find out? Some of you said flowers? Is this to make sure she is where she says?
I know what she looks like and I am sure that its her picture as she had mine on her friends computer screen. Is there no agence or service that can check up and see wither its fruad or a scam in Russia? If not perhaps we should make one.... The amount of money it could generate is great. The lady Has so far seems to be honest. She did not say her husband was a cheat but did say he was abuseive and liked his alchool lots. Any info you can give me would be great as I am really new to all of this. I dont think I even have the street smarts to get me by lol. I am a more the nerd. Thanks for your time guys.
Beware... I have a story that is typical... went to Russian, visited 9 times, thought I knew her, got her here... brought her kids over, bought a big house.. she was breathetaking and beautiful... disaster... I'm in divorce court after 10 months, and she's trying to take everyhting she can.... watch out!