Bobuk, you have found a very motivated woman that quite likely has not appreciated what many women have done with the men that have come to court in her city. She has likely spoken with her agent and been advised as to how some pro daters operate. The agencies have users and dignified ladies. The agencies will represent many types of women. This lady is very eager to not be put into the other category. I agree with Danny, but further I advise that you not let the reality of life cause her enthusiasm to be lost by hardship. My lady, as well as her mother were very gracious to me. They had food, champagne, candy,good cuts of beef, fish and flowers laid out for me every time I visited or returned from a jitney. I was prejudiced in thinking that it was probably a hardship on them economically. I was in fact correct. Her mother was indeed "Old School" and hospitality is as important as dressing well when ever they go out in public. Please, honor this tradition and custom and find a way to not make it a hardship for them after you have returned home. Expensive gifts and fancy restaurants cannot keep meat on the table after you have returned home. In my case it was just that. I have found my way through this problem and still have the best of my good fortune and their grace. I think that it is why many of us are here.
Bobuk,,, I agree with danny and RT!! You found a good one, so don't let go!! Plus,,, if you let go,,,, giss will name her; His girl Friday, and claim her as his own, so he has some proof of finding a good one!!!
Oh,,, yeah,, giss is right too!!! But from what I have heard,,, they would most likly be after your liver!!?? They seem to be in high demand!!!
hello steve48, my name is eric
and i traveled in ukraine , russia and canada some.
they have nice looking girls say between 19 and 35.
in america it`s more like 19 to 29, bad diet i think.
anyways an irish friend of mine moved to perth and tells me how great looking aussie girls are. he thinks thai girls are attractive also. to me they look like girls not women.
what sites have photos of aussie girls? thanks, i`m wondering why most sites have russian girls only.
I have a first cousin from Australia. Nice lady. I met many Australians, especially years ago when I drove the Supershuttle. Nice people. They were generous tippers, men as well as women. Why would Danny think they are selfish little monsters? It's the person, Danny. It's not the women.
Well Ralph, I am really spending too much time on the forum. I was on my way out until this SOB got started with me.
How much have you spent so far on this girl, Danny? $50K? $40K? $30K? $25K? One of your previous posts say it is probably on the high end. My total cost for three girls does not even come close to the lowest one there. This month alone there were at least three posters here, telling of how much more they spent than me. Yet you and others here concentrate on me.
I wasted the money? The biggest "waste" I remember was the "doctor" in Zaporozhye. She was so sweet back then, I suspected scam, but I went along with it. The biggest thing she asked for was $500 for the license to start her private practice. I thought that could save me money in the long run because she would be able to pay for much of her expenses. I didn't hear much from her after I got back, but she sure complained a lot when I visited someone else on my next visit.
Scam? Waste? You decide. I offered to take her to dinner, she refused. We did not do anything but stay in her apartment and go shopping, mostly for groceries. I stayed about a week with her. When her child went to school, she would take her clothes off so she could get a massage from my strong hands.
Guess what, Danny. I will go "waste" my money again.
Total costs don't come to very much if one doesn't travel for a couple of years at a time ..... however I'm not getting in to that ..... I think I'll start a 'Happy' thread to diversify attention away from the squabblers!
You didn't answer my question, did you Danny? The fact is you don't know what I have sent to anyone except the chocolates. Do you know why? I haven't told you. You were dying to know and when I didn't tell you, you went on as if I did.
The fact is you most likely spent at least twice as much as I did on three women total to your one woman. That is total on everything. Who is wasting money? You made a mistake? Worry about your problems and your expenses. Don't project your problems on me.
KEEP AWAY!!! Dont waste your time, do you really need that shit trying to go to Summy, to meet some girl you hardly know!!
I was in Summy many years ago, I shall never return)))You know they laugh at all the foriegn idiots who travel there searching for love, it is like a joke)) dont lower yourself)
Get yourself to Russia find a girl with a good job, who you know is not going to be after your money the sec you land, a girl you can speak on the phone to, a girl who will chat in facebook or Vkontacte, not some silly wench in Summy who you only communicate by mail!!
Teddy, you shouldn't consider your one experience to be the summing up of an entire city's attitudes. Do you really think things are that simple and black & white?
I went to Sumy around 18 months ago, and I met some of the most genuine girls I've ever come across, in any country I've ever been to. I communicated with plenty of them via SMS and vkontakte before, during and after my visit.
One man's experience is by no means an objective assessment.
The woman you speak of has never tricked me into anything. She is one of the most honest women I know. If I was in your situation, I wouldn't send money either, but no I will not freeload. There is one BIG difference between you and the situation of me you spoke of. She has a child. If I had to put things into perspective, my relationship with her was a 5, her coming to America was a 5, my visiting her a 5, but the well being of the child is a BIG FAT 10.
Yes, you made a mistake. You called her a scammer, and continue to assert such. She is not a scammer. I did everything with open eyes. I do not make decisions based on your values.
I don't know much of your gf, but I did hear her speak of the people laughing that they sound like monkeys. Then she laughed and gave about the same sound. I don't like her already. She laughs about how others are when she is the same. She's like you.