The best way to get to Sumy (Ive been there 4 times) is by train. If not you can get a driver to come get you in Kiev from Sumy for $150 to $175. Sumy kicks ass and really nice apts can be had for $40 to $50 a night. Up the hill from McDonalds are dozens of stores. Right across the street from McDobalds is a big (for there) grocery with a big deck and live music every night its nice out (from what I could tell). Very down to earth women but as one told me and several showed, " Only whires go to a mans hotel". Sonehow apts are different.
If you read russian and arrive at a time close to a train departure, take the train. If you are lost im Ukraine spend the $160 or so for the cab. If you get hooked up with an agency interpreter named Inna, its your lucky day. Shes a little expensive but she will take care of anything you need. Shes a real gem. She will hook you up with the cheaoest car fare available.
Tom,,, I know Inna, and she is the only ray of light in Sumy,,, as far as I am concerned.
Expensive?? I didnít think so! Her and I met several times, went out for lunch or supper, took a short tour of some museums in the centre of Sumy, then went to a small cafť. When we finished, she asked if I would pay her now, or later? I said; I could pay her now,,,,, estimated three hours and handed her 30USD! She told me; only one hour and handed the 20USD bill back to me?? I replied; you have done things for me in the past,,, on the phone or email,,,, and I gave the 20 back to her. I found all prices in Sumy to be reasonable.
If you have gone back thru the threads for the last 6 months, you might read of an interpreter that I liked 95% of the time?? Thatís Inna! The other 5%,,, she is treating me like a little kid who hasnít dated before. Some of that time, she is trying to get me to date older women with children. Perhaps she believes itís in my best interests,,,, but itís not!
I believe the girl who I made the trip to Sumy for,, stopped writing to me back in Aug of last year,,,, weeks later I had two letters from her in my inbox, wishing me a happy birthday! My membership was already canceled,, and I had to renew it to open them. A big mistake for me, one that cost me thousands of dollars and a wasted trip. I had bad feelings about the trip months before I went, and basically went just to be sure. Her letters werenít the same,, and I think someone from the agency had been writing them. I only know two women from the agency,,,,, and I think Inna would have wrote a better letter!! Lol
I planned to be off of all websites after that trip,,, one way or another. You and others have said; that I/we should make a vacation out of the trips, and meet with others. I wasnít in the mood to meet with anyone new,,, but I did give someone else a call. That mistake cost about 2,000USD! I rolled the dice hoping things might develop?? About two weeks after returning home,,,, I told that girl goodbye. She greatly over estimated her hold on me!!
I enjoyed my time with Inna, a hell of a lot more than with that other girl!! 30 vs. 2,000! Itís not always cheaper to go with out the agencies! It should also be known, that the other girl (2nd) has had 3 new profiles since January?!!
Itís very unlikely that I will find myself back in Sumy,,, but if I do,, Inna is the first person I would call! I have her on speed dial on both of my phones.
Yep ranger other agencies in Sumy can't be trusted. I'm going back to see my fiance next month and already told her we are going to Sumy to see Inna. She will tell you when she thinks you are screwing up. These days Inna charges $15 per hour but only while she is actually translating. When I was there I didn't like the way things were going so I told her I was going to buy a dozen roses and hand one out to each beautiful woman I saw standing on the corner there by herself with my phone number. I told her just repeat what I say in Russian but she said I was crazy and refused. She did introduce me to some of her friends one of who could have worked out but she was seeming to be recovering from a break up and not very receptive to the idea till it was time for me to go, then changed her mind to late. Oh well it's like spinning a wheel, you don't know what's going to happen until you get there.
`first cab ride to Sumy should only be 100 dollars but you can take a bus from the train station for a lot less. about Inna, she is a good interpreter but you only pay 15 if you do not negotiate. I have used the agency chance and met my wife there but would not recommend them unless you can wade thru the bull.
Tom,,, all of the girls on both trips, were from the same agency. The one girl that I called after my first one didnít show up, was trying to go around the agency,,,,,, to save me money???? Lol She brought along her brother and his scanky-scanky girlfriend who acted as the interpreter. They all pretended that the two of us were engaged,,,,, and I was the last one to learn about that. I played along, but kept my plans to leave Sumy in two days. I had 9 more in Ukraine.
Young-old, pretty- or not, big city or small, it doesnít matter!!
Bowhunter,,, I didnít haggle or negotiate the prices, but I do call and verify them by phone and/or email. I also find a backup online just incase.
Just what bull are you referring to in Sumy??? Itís knee deep in any city or agency,,,,, what is the problem in Sumy??
What could be more negative than making up lies against other people, Danny? I don't get it. You supposedly have a wife and a newborn son. That should make you happy. But, you see it fit to make yourself feel better by making up lies.
Narcotics use? You must have experience in that because you see it fit to accuse people of it. What happened? Did your use make a deformed child?
I tell the truth about the ugly side of FSU dating,,,, in fact, I left out the worst parts of the stories!!
Rb,,,, he canít distinguish the difference between reality and fiction,,, truth or lie! Dunt lives in his own little make believe fantasy world,,,,, swearing at people walking by and throwing his own feces at them.
If Dunt has a family,,,, he also had a chance to start anew, to leave the demons of his past,,,, in the past!!! Instead,,, he would rather subject them to this,,,,, a place where a newbornís father is the biggest joke of the world. The head of a new family, subjecting his loved ones to see the mockery and ridicule!!?
Real or not,,, what he does and why, makes him the lowest form of life on this planet!
How many years has he been here???
Bowhunter,,, I think I know exactly what you mean??!!
Last year, I wanted to buy the girl in Sumy a gift she could use. Jacket, boots,, or a pizza oven like she wanted? Couldnít find a pizza oven, even after spending hours looking. I was told; that a practical gift was not proper?! If you want to show the girl how you feel,,,, it should be jewelry ??!! I then replied,,,, it is also the easiest to return to the store!!!
My ex-girl in Kiev,,, has lost or had stolen ďeverythingĒ I ever gave her?? And it is a substantial amount!
Hi Guys ! I was in SUMY 2 years ago. Nice place. Got some assistance from "Chance for LOVE agency" Natalya, She is very helpful and honest. I did not find any lady I really liked.
Yes, the agency introduces you to some lady who is interested in shopping after some time in restaurant. But its only to be expected. Just refuse to give gifts and see if she is interested to meet you next day again ! She would if you have a positive serious talk about your quest and attitude, i think ! and if she were genuine .....
Sumy is a small nice neat city. Stayed in apartment near river 40$ per night. This place near the bridge and under it is mostly occupied by locals sunbathing and also by foreigners who visit the restaurant under it, Great view from 1st floor of this restaurant. can send pics if you want. there are some good girls but its like a roulette, you dont know who will interest you really in the end, and what their mood is. sometimes they get serious on the day you leave or after you leave. sometimes they have a relationship which started before you started from home to visit them ! and sometimes they break-up just after you left ukraine ! some of them are after cash spending and a good time. Just be discerning and have a good time seeing the sights ! Michael Raj
Sumy is a nice city and I would recommend using chance agency but remember they are there to make money.I know Inna personally and used her services a few times and I would also recommend using her for interpreter. rate for foreigners for apartment is 40-50 a night, if you speak Russian more like 25. The place by the river is very nice and I really like the view. If a place comes up for sale in that building I would like to buy it for when I retire.