I am new to the Forum and I hope to make some friends along the way!!!
I will always try to take the high road to topics being discussed and hope to add my insight to topics as well!!!
I have enjoyed reading the forum topics very much and have thought some to be very funny and in good taste as well. However, I have to agree with some of you we need to get fresh ideas and stay on the topics and avoid the WARS of WORDS!!!!
First of all I have just started my search for a Ukraine or Russian Lady. Some days I have my plan and other days I am completely lost again!! I have traveled to various parts of the world in the past but now stay closer to home. Recently I have been reading profiles of Ladies that have come over to the USA and live in various cities. I have notice some ladies are already getting "AMERICANIZED" their ideas are very similiar to American Women-that is starting to scare me!!! But I have to remember that there is many reasons that the ladies are here in the USA?? First-maybe the first marriage to USA man was no good and now she is divorced??? School education programs or Friends of family. My question for anyone that is interested in this Topic is has anyone talked to these ladies???? Should I start looking at the USA first before "Flying across the Pond" Let me know???
Tex,
You need to look for a lady in her natural environment, as you indicate, if they are already in the west then they have already started upon the process of becoming westernized and, unknown to you, may have already picked up some bad habits or have begun to adapt to a life of a western guy before you.
A guy a little like buying a new, rather than second hand car, from new you can 'run it in' properly, look after it and it, should, look after you and become reliable. A second hand car, well has it been treated well and fairly, was it thrashed or did it have one careful owner etc. etc. etc.
Martin,
Thanks for the nice post. Your point is well taken about establishing a relationship from the beginning and supporting each other during the "New Country Move" I believe many relationships can fail or become stronger during this critical phase. I can only use my reference from reading topics on different forums from others like yourself to enhance my understanding. Some of the Websites like Finance.com and Elena's Models will have profiles if you select "USA" as your Country in the Search Engine. I read a article recently that more Marriage Agencies are starting to include this option as a additional service to their members!! Let me know if you have come across other agencies as well??
Tex,
Many FSU ladies, on less credible sites, the semi or totally westernized sites, Yahoo Personals as an instance, claim to be from USA or wherever. A high percentage of these are scammers within the FSU, claiming to be in USA, and they'll only be after your money.
Tex,
The simplest way to weed out any woman who plans to marry with the intentions of scamming you is to tell her upfront that you will never marry anyone without a prenup that protects both your current assets as well as current and future incomes.
It makes no difference where the woman is from, US, UK, FSU, Cartagena or Mars (you know, the kind with green antenaes sticking out of their foreheads)
Let's see how many of the intelligent, gorgeous and career minded women 1-2-3-4 refers to will buy into that, lol
This is the biggest mythology and why I suggest you all ignore Martins posts... Let it be known that Russian and Ukrainian girls are more demanding , femminist , unsatisfied , and lazier than western woman ... Just look at the photos on the websites. They prefer to sit around under a tree all day and posing like peococks...
I cant believe how naive you men are.... Annika come back and educate these men....
GLTALLTOAD... yes dreams come true in looks but they come from a low work ethic... Do you visit Ukraine much... Because of the economy there is a low desire to work and people sit around all day... They dont have opportunities... This then becomes a way of life. And whilst your American woman are getting up at 7am and doing 10 hour workshifts these ukrainian girls are in bed till lunchtime... Oh yes they have a work ethic when it comes to painting their nails , going to the hairdressers etc..
wake up will you!!!!!!!!!
Wakey Wakey Toad, Vanechka has spoken!
So ladies are not to take care of their appearance, they're to look like tramps, in Western Europe a 7.5ish working day is the norm, FSU people work significantly longer hours to earn a mere pittance!
QC,
I thought mexicans created that proverb over 100 years ago.
I guess these days just about anyone can put on that hat when they're not happy with their income.
So, Vane...according to you anyone who works sporadically or lazily must be attractive because they have low work ethics..??
Doesn't make much sense.
I have seen enough FSU women in their daily routines here in the USA and in their homeland to convince myself that when it comes to ethics of appearance and care for their bodies, most western women might as well throw in the towel before the first round bell sings, mate.
They're hopeless.
They're slovenly neglectful.
They're every bit of the pitiful legacy women like Roseanne Barr and The View pack teach women to act like.
If that is what turns you on and gives you wood in the morning, go for it..
Thanks for all the feedback Everyone!!!
Currently, I still have my sights on looking for a Lady in Kharkov, Ukraine. (Been wasting my time on Yahoo and Amercian Singles Again-Bad fish in those Ponds!!!) Has anyone worked with Helen from "All Beautiful" Agency in Kharkov.
I been told by a few that Kharkov ladies are NOT "Commercialized" like Kiev Ladies-Does this make any sense to anyone????
I am well aware from other posts on forum about cities like Moscow and St.Petersburg!!! They say to forget the Ladies and keep looking and seek a lady outside these cities!!!
I hope this post is a bridge back to my orginal Post Question about finding Ukraine/Russian Ladies in Countries outside their Home Land.
i Everyone!!!!
I found these profiles the other day during my search for my "Special Lady ". I will list 3 examples of 3 different USA cultural stages of women here in the USA. The First Lady from Elenasmodels. Agency Vlada ID 012376 Age 38, Daughter 16 just arrived in USA.
Next will Olga# 332653 from Bride. Age is 39 Son is 17. Olga moved to USA 10 years ago when she was 29 years old and her son was 7 years. Now Olga is just a "Yahoo" Dater like many other USA women!!!It is hard to tell but the profile is on a Russian Dating site and Not a USA site!!!
My Last Lady profile is "Sweet" Natalia, Age 23, Single with NO Kids-Every Man's Dream!!!
My comment here take a look at the Ladies Profiles and you will see a Nature Progression of "When Culture Slowly Takes over your Lovely Lady" Please beware of Culture Changes and be proactive during the stages "otherwise One Morning when you wakeup, your lovely Russian/Ukraine Bride will be just like your Neighbors wife across the street!!!
ID: 012376
Name: Vlada (Vladislava)
Profile ID 012376
Online NOW!
You can meet Vlada in person. Click here to learn how!
Age 38
Star sign Taurus
Height 162 cm / 5' 3''
Weight 50 kg / 110 lbs
Eye Color Hazel
Hair Color Red
Hair Length Very Long
Marital status Divorced
Children daughter, 16
City Boston, MA, United States
Education University
Language English: Good;
Russian: Fluent;
Profession Engineer
Occupation Graphic designer for a newspaper
Religion Christian
Smoking No
Drinking Socially
Personality I'm not a greek goddess, but not bad looking. Slender and feminine brunette, sensitive, smart woman with vast stock of unspent tenderness and with good sense of humor. I'm not ideal — I believe ideal people don't exist. But I'm very faithful and true person and I'm never able to betray my close people.
Interests I love the life and enjoy many various things. Traveling, going out of the city with the friends, making picnics, hiking, going to the theatre, the musical. Also I feel absolutely happy at quiet evenings. Reading, listening, watching are from a mood. What else? I love a sea coast. When there is nobody and it’s possible to listen noise of sea, all troubles remove and seem insignificant. And also understand what main in the life is.
Looking for a partner
Age to 55
Race White/European
Other I would like to find somebody, who is a reliable and real man. I do not think my requirements are steep, not at all. Probably, I might tell you in the future that I've waited for you, if you are reliable and strong, energetic,
honest and delicate, love children and you want to have a good, happy marriage with a woman from Russia.
Personal message
Charming Russian lady hasn’t yet lost a hope to meet real and dependable man. Such man, behind which I would feel like behind stone wall, and feel just a woman. Certainly, all of above-listed sounds like a joke. But, it isn’t so and I’m seriously looking for my sole man. My soul mate, when understand each other at a half-word, at a half-sight. I do have remarkable, very intelligent daughter, my dearest gladness. But happiness in my life isn’t complete. I would like very much to share a lot of interests, desires, the life after all with special someone. I have been living in Boston for not long time and I have taken weighed decision to create my stronghold with foreign man. Not necessarily from USA, maybe you live somewhere else. I know what I want in the life and I’m open for building sincere relationships full of love and support. I believe I will be loving wife and best friend for my husband and will stay with him side by side everywhere and always. I would give him care, calmness and gladness of being together. But I look forward the same.
Communication
Postal address YES (I have a postal address but will give it to selected persons myself)
Home Phone YES (available)
Mobile Phone NO
Fax NO
Email YES (available)
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Expression of interest response rate: 100%
My second Lady Olga from Bride. Agency #332653 10 years ago moved to USA.
Olga
Age: 39
Date of Birth: 24 October 1965
Zodiac: Scorpio
Height: 168 cm 5' 6.1"
Weight: 57 kg 126 lbs
Country: USA
City: Washington
Eyes: green-blue
Hair: light-brown straight long
Occupation: medical coding, medical billing
Education: higher
Religion: Christianity
Marital Status: divorced
Kids: son, 17 y.o.
Languages spoken: fluent English
My personality traits are: serious, calm, purposeful, smart, responsible, honest, kind, loyal, elegant, sensitive, gentle, romantic, responsible
I like these kinds of music: classical, pop, country, jazz
I usually read: classics, novels, thrillers, detectives, newspapers and magazines
I like to go out to/and: theater, cinema, exhibitions, museums, concerts, parks, meeting with friends
My favorite cuisine: Russian, Italian, Mexican, Chinese
I like these physical activities: dancing, shaping, travelling, gym, jogging, biking
More about me: I was born in Russia. Moved in US 10 years ago. Love America as much as I love Russia. You will find out more details about me when we meet each other.
Age group of a partner: 30-55
My perception of an ideal relationship: confident, reliable, financially independent, romantic man that is all woman needs in her partner.
Profile posted on:
Fri Jun 24 17:42:09 2005 (Moscow time) E
My Last Lady "SWEET" Natalia Profile#311890 from Bride. Agency.
Natalia
Age: 23
Date of Birth: 8 October 1981
Zodiac: Libra
Height: 178 cm 5' 10.1"
Weight: 60 kg 132 lbs
Country: USA
City: Miami
Eyes: green
Hair: black straight long
Occupation: travel consultant
Education: higher
Religion: Christianity
Marital Status: never been married
Kids: no kids
Languages spoken: fluent English, fluent French, basic Spanish
My personality traits are: serious, confident, purposeful, persistent, smart, honest, kind, elegant, sociable, communicative, sensitive, cheerful, optimistic, romantic, considered
I like these kinds of music: classical, disco, pop
I usually read: classics, novels, poetry
I like to go out to/and: theater, cinema, exhibitions, museums, concerts, disco, night clubs, parks, meeting with friends
My favorite cuisine: Russian, Italian
I like these physical activities: dancing, travelling, gym
More about me: TO MAKE ME HAPPY IT'S ENOUGH TO BE: 1. friend 2. partner 3. lover 4. brother 5. father 6. teacher 7. sponsor 8. chief 9. carpenter 10. electrian 11. mechanic 12. designer 13. stylist 14. sexologist 15. dancer 16. psychologist 18. psychiatrist 19. therapist 20. lawyer 21. solder 22. creative 23. caring 24. nice 25. athlete 26. kind 28. gentleman 29. clever 30. funny 31. sincere 32. comprehensive 33. strong 34. ambitious 35. capable 36. courageous 37. generous 38. responsible 39. respectful 40. serious. 41. very good educated 42. unordinary 43 crazy WITHOUT FORGET ABOUT: 44. to do frequently compliments 45. to adore shopping 46. to not make problems 47. to be very rich 48. to not stress me 49. to not look at other girls AND AT THE SAME TIME IT'S NECESSARY: 50. to be very close to me 51. to be very attentive but to not be jealous 51. to get well with my family IT'S VERY IMPORTANT ALSO: 53. never to be late 54. to not limit my freedom, but to remind me about limits 55. TO NOT KEEP ME WAITING!!!
Age group of a partner: 25-33
My perception of an ideal relationship: check above
Profile posted on:
Thu May 12 12:10:02 2005 (Moscow time) Edit
Martin_UK:
Thanks for previous posts on this Thread. I really understand the "Caring of your Auto Theory"
I am interested if anyone has Russian/Ukraine Friends that have been in the USA or Another Country now for a period of time .
What Cultural Differences have you notice in your married Friends???
Tex,
With regards to ladies from cities, villages etc.
There is a belief, a saying, that a village girl will be less demanding, less expensive, than a city girl. You cannot typecast, to be human is to be different, no two ladies are the same, many a village girl will aspire to be a city girl but perhaps without a true understanding and indeed a city girl may prove to be the better option.
There has also been a similar saying to stay away from the 10's and go for the 7's to 9's because 10's will have a demanding attitude etc. If every man were to avoid the 10's then these 10's would be ripe pickings for 'he who dares, wins'.
Much the same as city girls, if every guy were to avoid ladies from SPb, Moscow, Kiev etc. then the one guy that should dare to venture into one of these cities, well it could be like all his birthdays have arrived at the same time!
Kharkov is Ukraine's second city so the ladies there will be much the same as Kiev, Odessa, Dnepropetrovsk etc. You're still going for a big city girl. To find 'something' different you need to venture to somewhere that is a pain in the ass to travel to, somewhere without an international airport or indeed any airport at all.
The moral is to do what you want to do and not what every other guy does.