Lets help each other out with a simple straightforward thread to identify potential scammers. Each post would be the girls id # a description of why she may be a time wasting scammer. I am so sick of getting generic email that have no specific references to my previous letter. I don’t have time to be wasting on such women and it would be nice if we had a quick reference thread with no b.s. I know there are other threads like this, but I haven’t found one that is without off-topic chatter and kept up to date. I’ll post my suspect girls here shortly. TIA all those that participate.
truth, before you accuse somebody to be a scammer, think, check, prove. the right way is for you to fight possible scam is to report it to service@fiance.com, or from the feedback form, or online support. that lady/ladies will be removed from the site for investigation. this is work for the site support. if you keep getting generic letters from the same lady. it means she is not even reading them. please report to support immidiately, and move on. there is nothing else to do.
Just because a girl writes you a "generic email" with "no specific references to your previous letter" doesn't mean she's a scammer. It could just mean that she's not that interested in you and didn't want to spend the time to write a personal letter.
Not interested... could be and that is fine. How about a very impersonal letter with no specific references to my previous letter but with her phone number and instructions to call?
Ok what about these names? Irina Starozhuk. Wrote to me for months, Then I finally paid big dollars to get to Ukraine to meet her and she can't make it (!). Answer : she doesn't Exist. It is some smelly old bloke writing letters and cutting pictures out of magazines. How bout another? Anastasyia Andryushenko. She actually met me in Ukraine after a few months of writing letters. I took her out every day and night for a week while I was there. I find out (not through her or the agency but through another person) that she is in a relationship for the last 3 years with another man. I talked to this man and he was ok but its not the point. No they didn't ask me for money, but it cost a hell of a lot actually getting to Ukraine, Accomodation time off work etc. So these two are definately no go women. And Thanks again to the agency translator (Fiance.com) for not telling me about these all important details at any one of our meetings with this girl. She had to have known these two were friends outside of the agency. (Odessa translator for Fiance. com) Natasha.
steelman - Ok, so you've had a bad experience. Enough said unless you want to express what actions YOU can do the next time to ensure that you don't make the same mistakes. I'm sure the trip for you was expensive as in any overseas travel. But look at the bright side, you've gone there, went through the process, made some mistakes, learned from your experience, and hopefully have moved on...
There are always more opportunities, just like falling off a horse, you get back on and try again. Unless you're a quitter... Anyway, thanks for your input, some of us have learned what not to do from you.
Steelman's experience with Irina Starozhuk points out that you should make a phone call and do an address verification (flowers with photo) AT THE LEAST before making a trip to visit only one girl.
How do you know the lady doesn't exist? Maybe she just decided that she didn't want to meet you. Did you get scammed in anyway? i.e. sending her money?
There must be a way for an agency to make strict checks, as in passports, utility bills, National Insurance, reliable/professional refrences (or closest thing)e.t.c that should be attained by Dating Agencies in order to make a more solid portfolio for these women, with an 'Any deceitful behaviour and your out' policy, not a smake on the wrists. Come on, surely theres more that can be done, the question is, do these agencies REALLY want to make these checks? or just allow these accounts of 'No-shows' and 'secret boyfriends' (or husbands!)e.t.c to be regarded as one of those things thats just part of the whole foreign relationship 'game', for many it's not a game.
VNVnation, with all due respect some people are not as laid back or investigative as you might be, yet just as genuine in their search and would like to see some outcome made from genuine effort, not just hope that they'll meet an honest woman, with all due respect what Steelmans experience points out is that something needs to be done by agencies, not by the poor fellow sitting behind his computer, waiting for a break. Think about it. The way you seem to make it out is that its always our fault if we didn't get our 'check-ups' right. Whats all that about?
Well, if you want to make a trip half way around the world to meet a single lady without first making a phone call or doing an address verification, I suppose you can.
I don't consider myself to be particularly investigative (at least not compared to RK, lol), just sensible and prudent. While fiance.com in general does a great job with customer service, a clearinghouse agency like this can't know all of its members personally.
Honestly, it is our responsibility to do a minimum of checking before commiting to a trip. It's too easy otherwise to loose time, money, and energy. All I am suggesting is checking scammer blacklists, making a phone call, and doing flower delivery with photo verification; these are just basic things. Others may check IP addresses, versions of The Bat (can't resist, RK), or do a background check.
If you don't act like a man and take some responsibility, don't come crying to the forum about how the girl didn't exist.
If you Google on Oksana Semerak, you will find a page that is this thread PLUS it has homebuilderjoe's post. If you comment on it however and bring it to the forefront, suddenly, homebuilderjoe's post isn't here. It has been removed.
Yeah, I have some advice, find another forum to post you BS in. Why in the hell would you care one iota about Rickyr, unless he got the woman you wanted Amir? Maybe you should go help Amir pack and he can give you some advice on where to live in Europe?