Hello, I am a Russian woman. I live in Russia. I would like to tell you that I am completely agree with the opinion that everything depends on the woman's family upbringing. All Russian woman differ from each other. What is more, I think that those women who look for an American husband through the agency , firstly think of the improving their life conditions. They want to find a better life with a well off husband.
The best women do not look for a well off American husband. I know an American man who came to Russia on a business trip.Accidentally he met a woman and fell in love. Then he got married and now he lives with his Russian wive in Russia. His wife is nice and she loves this man because they have phisical attraction and they are soul mates.
Hello,Julia. I would like to comment on your post. I believe that AMerican men also look for better life conditions. WHat a better life is is different for each person. I also think that every person--in their own way,wants a better life,but what is good for me may not be good for you,so the chance of being successful in this search is small,but not impossible. And the chance is always better if a person does not give up on their dreams. Also I have to believe that not all Russian men are heavy drinkers,smokers,and carousers,even though it seems to be the stereotype.
Julia, a think that well off is also very important. It can giver woman opportunity of the start point. She will be confident.
It is very important to be different but overall equal person in marriage. If she can reach some level of income it will help a lot for relationship. I think that she can get it easily if her husband is a well off person. Read Toad's post and understand American’s attitude to marriage. "She will not get into my purse".
I look on one couple. She came to US then she was 20. Her husband paid for her University in US. She was major in engineering in her bachelor degree, worked after it for a year and then gets MBA (business). Now she is 28 and gets “the average income for MBA people”.
Look, Nasfan want to give opportunity and help her woman because he is confident and HAVE SOME LEVEL of WELL OFF.
Oh my God!
Well, I met a beautiful Russian lady , right here in Montreal. She arrived only 3 years ago and WOW! she blow my socks off! been of an old education myself, i was very pleased to see that her values where the same as mine. True I make efforts to fill the void of her Russian part by learning Russian myself (which she find one of the most romantic thing anyone did for her, by the way, hint hint hint.)
She is so un-materialistic, down to Earth, educated; that it make me wants to become a superman; and she is giving me the energy to achieve it!
Wow! Am still under the spell , even after all this time!
Hello to all, I have to agree with those that find Russian ladies more down to earth, I have been corresponding with a nice lady from the FSU for about three months and plan on visiting her within the next 6 months, I would visit her sooner , but due to my work I am unable to do so, what I have found is this lady is very intelligent, beautiful and down to earth, she understands that it will be another 6 months before I visit her and she is fine with that, she has never talked about or brought the subject up about money or how large a house I have, she has only said that she wants a man who can give her security and who will love only her, she is very genuine. I have corresponded with the scammers in the past and like someone has said it is very easy to identify them, usually within three or four letters they start to hint about visiting you and how much it could cost, once they start with that I usually play along and burn them in the end, it is quite funny to see their reaction to their own game.
The chances of finding a good American woman are two- slim n none. Really, they all believe they have gold-lined P*'s and that they are "above and beyond" the understanding and simple minds of mere men. They all claim they want "chemistry" then wonder what happens when they are left to raise 3 kids on their own ... "chemistry" really worked out eh.. Many then turn to "goddess power" and join the yoga club, go out dancing with their girlfriends or otherwise study dumb stuff like Kabalah or Alchemy - might as well go full blast into witchcraft! Some recently watched Oprah "The Secret" movie version and now stand in judgement of others ) mostly mens ) spirituality. The thousands of extra $'s and time devoted to a FSU woman to me, is well worth it ...
I have been corresponding with a few ladies for a couple of moths now and have told them I will not be able to travel for a while.
What strikes me is the letters seem a little vague and I think it is someone else writing the letters for them as their English is probably poor.
So far i have not been asked for money but at the first hint will cease all contact with that person.
Also I have has letters from 20-23 year old attractive women whom I have sent a polite reply back saying they are too young I am 36.
John you made the point about they want chemistry and I do think you have to have chemistry with your FSU girl as it will not work without it no matter how compatible you may seem.
TW it worries me a little that your girl says she only wants a man who can give her security as that could be(don't get me wrong as I only said could)mean money so you will have to find out if there is chemistry there when you visit her,as only then will you know if there is a future or not.
hertsman...what is more important..chemistry or age??? Not every 23 year old girl is the same, one could have the maturity of a 35 yr old or the maturity of an 18 yr old. To each his own but I do very well with 20 somethings, even though I am 20 year older.You speak of attractiveness to each other or have chemistry with each other but apparently age is more important to you!!!
The 'new' thing now is not to ask for money, that is rare, it is getting taken care of once you get there, that is the new aim. If letters are not personal or answer your questions...not a good sign.
Beemer I would say taken care of could be a round about way of saying you will provide security for me ie money(they are becoming more subtle with experience).
I understand that some 23 year olds are more mature than others and if you do manage to attract a 23 year old then good luck,however for the relationship to last there must be a chemistry or attraction on her part if not you are looking at an expensive marriage.
I would say put yourself in her shoes but to do that is hard as an FSU woman will see the world in a different light to you and me.
I will play by the rules of never send money to someone you have never met and also not to try and buy a womans love.If she is attracted to you it doesn't matter what the age is but to be realistic I would say 5-7 years is my maximum.
If I do not try to buy her and she is still interested I know that it may be a good sign however I will follow my gut instinct as it is usually the best indicator of whether she is genuine or not.
hertman...taken care of is dinners, drinks, taxi's and entertainment..NOT giving her money. You decide where to go and what is spent. No girl ever asked me for money, even in person. They do give subtle hints on what they would like but the minute I ask them what am I going to get, we move on.
Your first post was mainly about how age is important was...next is saying chemistry is very important. Let me ask you, if you met a girl from FSU country and you didn't know her age what would you do? Ask her her age, so you can decide whether you are interested??? Think about that!!!!!Attractiveness and chemistry is most important than age.
I am not trying to tell you what is right for you, if you want to stay close to your age, great but keep in mind girls in their 30's have bigger chance of having kids already, I am sure you knoew that already
I do not mind if they have kids already as I do as well.
If I didn't know the age of the girl I would go on looks and how mature their personality is.
I recently met a girl who I had a great chemistry with but felt she was too young and attractive plus lacked maturity and I would have been a fool to pursue it so let it go.
The best thing to do is judge whether or not your gut feeling tells you this is right or whether you're being a fool.
If your gut feeling tells you you're being an old fool the chances are you probably are.
You may meet someone your own age who is a supermodel and you look like woody Allen in that case you should also ask yourself is this right?
Only you can decide what is right for you but as I have said before my days of dating spoilt little girls are well and truly over.I am looking for the mature thirty something kids or no kids.
Another factor I didn't mention is that if you are in your forties and look like Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt then yes i would recommend dating a 25 year old as your chance of success would be very good but unfortunately most of us don't look like them.
To all you guys 44 year olders like myself- age is of importance, I have corresponded with a 28 yo girl who seemed very mature, that ended by me advising her to go back to her ex who was recovering from alcolism.
I have tried the very attractive ladies in the 40-50 and I tell you the rejection rate is even higher than in the 30-40!!! ok, I am not a Brad Pitt, but I do keep fit... and if you ask me, a woman that over 40 looks as attractive as the ladies 10 years younger (assuming the photo is actual)it is an interesting field without the pressure of future children.
please don't flame me, and i know how old this thread is, and i didn't even meet my girl from kiev out of choice! but i can see where CodeRed is coming from...
though many if not all of these values can be found here if you really look...
1. Family values -- Even if you find a FSU woman decent enough for family values, it will be only her parental family she would give any damn about.
2. Caring, loyal and devoted partner -- Help me, I'm having trouble imagining this.
3. Physical beauty -- FSU chics are no prettier than any other European or north American chic in that age range. Since middle aged men don't find any young chic around attracted to them, but get responses from FSU chics, they take a scam for attraction.
4. Non-materialistic attitude -- Is this guy for real? Help me, I'm in a complete black out zone now. Why are these non-materialistic chics on the internet to begin with?
1. my wife's first concern is our family, Her and I. There is no other issue.
2. Caring, loyal, devoted partner. I have yet to find a woman who even comes close to my wifes attitude towards me. I've never had such affection and attention. She's second to none.
3. Physical beauty, my daughter accused me of robbing the cradle until she found out my wife was 42 at the time. The ladies care about their looks and take care of themselves spiritually,mentally and physically.
4. Non-materialistic attitude. You may be in black out zone, seems you are a scammer magnet. Each one has their reasons to be on the internet. Why are you? Trying to find something you can't possibly get at home? Maybe a clothes hanger half your age.
Yeah my materialistic wifes dream was to have a couple of cats and a large garden she could call her own and to have her own car and not have to work just to survive. Wow, that's really materialistic, since she married a middle class middle income guy.
Before you berate a whole country of women, maybe you should get to know just one first. Then find out their motivations and not some spurred loser definition.
JoBlo - "3. Physical beauty -- FSU chics are no prettier than any other European or north American chic in that age range. Since middle aged men don't find any young chic around attracted to them, but get responses from FSU chics, they take a scam for attraction.
4. Non-materialistic attitude -- Is this guy for real? Help me, I'm in a complete black out zone now. Why are these non-materialistic chics on the internet to begin with?"
JoBlo, or Blo*Jo*, whichever you wish to be referred to as, based on the above statements, you a clearly a bitter and twisted, one dimensional idiot. I suggest that you open your eyes next time you travel to the FSU (if indeed you have ever been there!) if you dont think they are prettier then you need help with either your eye sight or your hormones!
In relation to point 4, not everyone is a shallow gold digger, many yes, but not all.
If you cant contribute something meaningful to this forum then clear off back to the bar!
Why is it that people from the west quote from Anna Karenina or Dr. Zhivago when there is more great literature to compare from. I guess it makes you erudite with the locals in the FSU. Anyway, Dr. Zhivago has to do with an adulterous affair. Which my wife is not involved in.
With patience you can find a decent down to earth woman. When you search with honesty and integrity you can find a woman like my wife. With realistic expectations you can find an outstanding woman in Ukraine. They are old fashioned in the sense that they put their immediate family first. The majority of my wifes friends were just like her. Kind, considerate, caring and they really put me through an interrogation regarding my intentions with my wife at the time.
I think our well posted Brit said searching for a lady from the FSU is like walking through a minefield. I guess it is in a way. Though if you slow down, have a realistic approach things have a possibility of working out in a favorable way.