The picture gets clearer, so a beautiful girl can profile on here through an agency, get 200 plus letters, bring blokes over who agree to use the agencies services and recieve a cut, gotta say its not right, but i fully understand why its rife....
Excuse me but I was travelling to the same lady in Ukraine for some 2.25 years, her friend would normally pick me up from the airport or my lady would negotiate with a taxi driver, not a taxi company, for a good deal, we have never needed an interpreter, again any apartment was negotiated for the best price and I can assure you that my lady would not be interested in a few dollars here and a few dollars there.
For someone to generalise all others, as above, by his own bad experience(s) is bullshit!
A guy can independently source a 'non agency' lady, he can independently source a 'non agency' interpreter, he can independantly source a 'non agency' apartment and indeed the last thing he needs, because it is doomed to failure, is an agency insisting upon involving itself in a fiancee visa application.
Agency, non agency, it's all hogwash. I laugh at some of you guys that come in here an rip Fiance.com on a regular basis. When you fail, you blame Fiance.com like they should be there holding your hand all through the process. Until you are smart enough to sever the agency ties and find a woman smart enough to sever the agency tie, you will always have that influence from an agency. Any man not willing to do his homework and understand that this is business and the girls are nothing but income producers for an agency will always have difficulty.
Fiance.com provides a service, not a guarantee to anything. How much a agency charges for correspondence varies from agency to agency. Fiance.com provides it for many here at at a very discounted rate. The agency's receive a very small stipend from Fiance.com for their translation of letters, so the accusation of one esteemed writer here that the monetary carrot is dangled for the agencys by Fiance.com is ludicrous.
Martin, please explain what your wife's agency charges for monthly correspondence, or is it by letter or what?
You guys come in here and bash Fiance.com for not policing Agencys and all your misfortunes, when really the buck stops with you. You have the total control on your destiny, not fiance.com. Your failure at preparation, is not Fiance.coms fault, it is your fault. As a member wrote once, you pay your money and you take your turn. Fiance.com provides an Avenue for contact with women nothing more nothing less.
Non agency ladies can be more suspect than an agency lady. If non agency ladies are so legit, why is the majority of scammers not affiliated with agencys? They make contact through such sites as freepersonals.ru, match.com etc. Once you make contact with that special lady, you need to plant the seed, that it is not necessary to use an agency anymore. You have more control than you realize. If the lady doesn't want to play ball, find one that will, then you only have your small amount invested here with fiance.com, not all the expenses of travel and etc. to the FSU. Don't blame Fiance.com for your lack of preparation.
If the money is so good as one member here likes to claim, how come my wifes agency complained to me to stop writing my wife everyday with such long letters? Fiance's stipend to an agency, is a mere pittance of your monthly dues here. For some of you, it's arrogance, for some it's just plain stupidity. You think because you are from a country that is economically more well off that these ladies are going to drop at your feet for saving them. Well until you understand the culture and why some of these ladies are looking for foreign men, you are doomed to failure.
Some of your guys need to reach down in your trousers and have a gender check. Quit blaming fiance.com for your lack of preparedness and stupidity.
(Martin, please explain what your wife's agency charges for monthly correspondence, or is it by letter or what?)
As far as I'm aware it is a very small amount, per letter or indeed per page or number of characters, and the lady pays.
There was a guy recently from LAX, I met with him in Zaporozhye and we shared more than a few beers together, he had wanted to chat with his lady via Skype, and an interpreter, about 3 or 4 times a week and for a month or more and they were quite lengthy chats, I think the agency asked him for USD100 for this and he was more than happy.
All I would add was that during the short period that I wrote with ladies via fiance.com, and despite my best attempts to do so, I couldn't prise any ladies away from the agencies.
All the ones I asked declined to provide any of their personal contact information, they all insisted on communications continuing via fiance.com, and before travelling to supposedly meet one on one with a lady it is important to establish one on one contact, to establish that you are communicating with an individual, and that is something that I failed to achieve despite years of previous experience regarding the same and never having previously experienced such a problem.
I'm not suggesting that this would be everyone's experience but it was my experience of writing via fiance.com.
A little about me, (not that your all probably interested, of course) Get on Nasfan, agree and nice post, but i still have a thought set in my mind, and that is that i go weak in the presence of beauty, it is by far my greatest weakness, and although switched on, the battle between heart and mind can become a vicious one, i am using the web to try and find out if i can have the same effect on a girl, because if i can find my equal this way, someone who can devolope a strong chemical attraction for me by looking at my profile and reading my letters, than agency or no agency it wont matter, because the battle (for her heart) will have been won. O.k some are so in control that if they are scamming, you'll never win, but chemistry is the most powerful addiction, and i feel cultures, views, beliefs and the many miles between us will not matter one iota, if a girl doesn't develope this desire for me than unfortunately she's not the one...
So agreeing with everything you said, and just wanted to explain that i'm heading down this road, because i feel its far more likely i can find my ideal partner in the FSU due to my being attracted to a large number of these girls... i have just left an english girl who was perfect towards me, genuine, loving etc but 5 and a half years of no real chemistry, i kept telling myself i would grow out of this wanting someone who made me go weak at the knees just by looking at her and appreciate the togetherness/history factor, alas, no it has just been a bottled up emotion repressed over time, and it will not die, everyone is different, thank god, otherwise this world would be quite a boring place, but for me Chemistry first and everything else just falls into place...
You're teasing us, you're trying to wind us (nasfan6) up aren't you, come on admit it, you're seriously suggesting that you expect a lady to get 'wet' for you by looking at your profile and reading your letters, you need to get a life :)
I had full membership, so I wasn't paying by letter. In 3 to 4 months of membership, I came across only 1 real deal - a russian girl from Bashkortostan, Russia, with a daughter. But tempted by younger, single, prettier girls, who were running a job or business, rather than relationship, I lost her too. That's the real loss here.