Auusieman you are correct
knows no manners ( which to aussies is not on ) have you been on the recieving end when shopping with them mine passed me a shopping bag said to me " TAKE IT " LIKE A PIG i looked around and i said -err who are you talking to??? not me surely ? "take it --it said again ""
I grabbed the bag emptied it over her f------king head ( in the shop too ) i said to her you speak to me again that tone of voice -you will hit the ground and i meant it too.
Iam paying for the tucker -err you will apprieciate or you can always starve = please yourself thats my ways with em iam a good guy but courtesy is free -------you use it and very liberally when iam in town .
Courtesy means far more to me than a million bux i wont trade money for courtesy or a good sort ! those things as opposed to courtesy to me! -------run a long last in life !
Another example of pig arrogance mine rang me on the mobile we both in Rostov she had the shits hung up 1/2 way through conversation good way to infuriate an aussie so i strolled back to our place opened door said darling give me that nice new phone i just spent 9k rubles buying you yesterday .
i said its a really nice one pink case suits you -then i took it from her hands threw it to floor and with my boots i smashed it to pieces .
she looked in horror i said to her --darling all the ''manners '' went out of the phone you know ''manners in the memory '' YOU DO NOT EVER IN MY CULTURE HANG UP ON PEOPLE !
WE are installing my culture hear because iam paying for all in our lives from shampoo to world travel to band aids to everything we own it comes from 1 wallet / mine , so you will adapt to my ways
when you pay ( she ) pays for all in life then i will adapt to her ways !( thats how it works)
tears rolled ohh darlink my phone sob! yes i said --had you not been pig arrogant you would have had it for years .
hey your fault not mine -iam the providor you just looked the gift horse in the mouth .
until such times as you can pay for all in life and exceed my income of 230k a year ! we'l do things my way iam easy to please .
but courtesy is everything to me appriecition !~ etc thankyou cost you nothing to say !
Aussieman you treat hardness with hardness i grew up in Redfern iam harder than her by a country mile.
But i love courtesy and to look after her -------in 2 months when courtesy lessons have been observed il buy her a new phone but one mind game arrogance word - it will hit the ground again .( all part of there education )!!!!!
thats how you must react with them or they will stroll all over you .
TREAT FIRE WITH FIRE AND IF THEY TELL YOU 1 LIE DITCH EM AT ONCE -IF THEY TELL 1 THEY WILL TELL 100 i wont tollerate it anymore !
as i said previous post the the only road you can trust with em is the one you can walk away from .
THEY HAVE SO MUCH TO LEARN ''BUT THE ONLY EDUCATION CAN COME FROM US'' = FACT !
Mike00, perhaps you overreacted a bit. Girls will sometimes do such things in the heat of the moment. They don't think like guys. Whats the saying ...Love is like sand, if you try and hold it too tight it will slip between your fingers but if you hold it gently you will keep it forever. Just because you pay for everything shes still a person and have options and ideas that may differ from yours. If you live with someone you have to learn to adjust to different ways. But still you made a big decision to move there and it surely it must have been stressfull especially if she didn't understand what you were having to go through and help then the little things are become major issues.
Don't tell me, the Russian girls when they crack the shits with you over the telephone ( get upset )..the phone goes clunk and they hang up on you half way through the conversation and you are left saying "Hello, hello, anyone there" and then you blurt out fook this!
My ex-wife is very good at hanging up on me on the telephone or when we do not agree about kids issues or when she knows she can't argue with me anymore ( because I am right and she has no answer for it )..when she does that and the phone goes clunk, Jesus, it infuriates me!
Nothing worse to piss the man off than that behaviour!
When your Rostov woman talked to you like a pig and shoved the shopping bag in your hand, you were right Mike to tip the contents over her head because I would have done the same..women with no manners will infuriate and piss off Australian men!
Monada, you seem to be argumentative women..typical Ukraine spit fire much like my ex ( except she is Indian cobra and spits venom)..I never hit her but she made me mad and really got under my skin ( no women since her has been able to piss me off anywhere near as much ) and even today, a couple of times she pissed me off and frustrated me that much and I threw a plate against the wall, put small hole in the plaster wall and smashed the dinner plate!
Would you want to drive a man that mad, Monada or try and calm him down and talk reasonable???
The issue is that with MY MAN we are team. That's why I have to:
- give him ANY support he needs;
- rise his ago;
- make him sure in his strength;
- support his ambitions;
- dream sex :)) ))
- create for him a good rest at home after working day;
- be for him "mother", "friend" and "pro*" : ) )) - all in one :) )
I'm bitch for every one except opf my friends. And for My Man I'm broken mustang :))
Your indian 'X' was just a simple shit as foir your words. I bet, no good education nor life experience, nor deep personality.
I have seen the World and people. I know women very good.
I say: ukrainian bitch is the best a man can ever dream about his wife.
Here ladies know how to be polite and not struggle with their men. Very femine.
What I love in this forum lately, is the joke of the individuals posting here. I remember one clown above telling us how to get around Russia and how he spoiled his woman, it was his money and he will do what he wants with it, now he comes to slam the women from the FSU.
We now have Monada, who is full of shit from the start and her sidekick Quasi, who claims to be another Mr. Big Bucks. What I have found in my life is the guys who actually have deep pockets, don't talk about it much.
Then we have the great posters who have neither traveled to or dated a single Ukrainian woman, though they know all about the FSU. I'm married to a Ukrainian woman, and I surely don't know all there is to know about women from the FSU. Typical Ukraine spitfire, how would you know? Too many clowns come here and give real crap advice about women from this area of the world.
It would be like me talking about women from Perth, Fremantle or Thornlie WA like a voice of experience, at least I have been in those places once in my life. Though I wouldn't make much comment on Australian women. Even though I did date on there for three weeks.
New guys come here searching for real help and advice and what do they get, nothing but idiotic blather, from their all thieves to the likes of the imposter Monada. That in itself is enough to make a guy give up.
Like Mr. 4syrs above concurring with Mike00. Why even make such a comment unless you have an agenda of berating women from the FSU. Too many idiots waste too many good guys time here.
o.k Monada . I understand from your posts you know Poltava quite well as you are from there.
Can you recommend a good hotel in Poltava? maybe you can send me a list of decent apartments in Poltava? I am in Kiev in End of August i think i put Poltava on my schedule. You say there might be some single ladies there that may be interested in foreign man? or maybe you joke?
I know Cindy Agency very well.. I live half my time in a nearby city... I met my other half here... I have seen and met some women who I did not think where genuine... Also I have seen some very dubious men walking into the agency meeting a woman... I think if you are upfront with the staff at the agency and you are genuine, the staff at the agency are good advisers and will steer you in the right direction... One thing I advise all men to do is ... be very honest with your translator.... Look for a translator that you can communicate with... talk to her in advance of any meeting... She will help you and be the best advisor.... About the translations of letters..... I know because I have seen how it is done... I use the same program... Yes some of the pleasantries are the same... but you will know when a woman is interested in you when the real letter appears after the pleasantries.... The women get lots and lots of letters... there are many dreamers.... the woman must also decide if the man is a dreamer or not... my advice.... come to the city within 3 months of starting your correspondence...meet people... perhaps a Ukraine woman is for you.... maybe she is not.... If you suspect the woman is a fake you should tell the manager at the agency... The rules are strict!!!!!!!!!!!
Are jou lieving n Ukraine ?
can jou say some things about ( cidy ahency ) ?
I took letters from nice girls through cindy agency and they have interssting to do corespondence with me but at the same time I don't send any leters to them ,,so I think some things is not corect ,,I am right ?
do jou think that this agency have good and honest service ?
I appercite for information :)
No I don't live in Ukraine but I go there 2-3 times a year. I do not know anything about cindyagency. just read posts from different people and try to make your own determination. I do not like to deal with any agency but if girl doesn't speak your language you have to some type of help from them. you have to be careful about the letter writing because you don't know if girl is sincere or not. It may take some time to figure that out, if after 2-3 letters, you don't get questions answered or not very personal...move on. I am not crazy about girls writing me first, to me that is a bad sign, sounds like a letter writer. Although on natashaclub, I have been writing one girl for 5 months and her letters are very nice, hopefully they are true and she is true, you just never know for sure and meeting girl is only sure way to know intentions, at least in the beginning. Good Luck!
For sure cindyagency has not changed. it is still located on the 3rd floor, Small office high ceiling, the fat dumpy ukranian lady at her desk that speaks perfect English and the university students that all speak English too typing away on their computer in the tiny section at the rear of office and i guess those photographs are still their on the office door of various ladies holding bunches of flowers,- and of course there is the nice dark haired translator from Russia -Jeena a very nice pleasant young lady she is.
Cindy Agency, sounds like one big translation, pay for letter scam in which you really don't talk the lady at all but a translator canning up letters for the agency so they make money while you get sucked in as the fool!
How to sus out a scammer!!!!
1. When you write ask some questions.... ask for her opinions.... if she answers thoughtfully it is a good sign... If she glosses over the question then be warned.. You must be interested in her soul not only her looks... ask deep questions... If she ticks at all you will find out quickly... If she is a scammer you can easily tell from the answers!!!
2. It is not in the culture of Ukraine people to ask you for money. If there is a need it is strictly family and very close friends... If you are very close to each other she might confide in you about a problem... It is then for you to offer to help or not..
3. It is not normal in my experience for a Ukraine lady to tell you she loves you in every letter... It is usual that this expression is reserved for special moments... it is believed that you do not need to tell each other that you love because it is obvious from actions.... So if she tells you you are wonderful before you even meet ... be warned!!!!
4. I think if you are serious you will come to the Ukraine very quickly to sus oot the ladies you want to correspond with. If you want to make and preserve only good dreams you should say that you intend to come within 3 or 6 months max. Of course you must come if you say you will... broken promises are seen as a very Western way of life!!!! Then when you meet you should know within a very short period of time.... yes and no!!!
5. Please remember that girls are also on the look out for preditor men just as much as you are on the look out for scamming women!!! We have many both Ukrainian and foriegn... I know a lot of girls who have had some very bad experiences... It is hard to believe the voilence and cruelty that some have suffered...
6. When you meet your lady don't always go to a fancy restaurant... There are other things to do... be creative... this is very attractive to a genuine girl... Not to a scammer who only wants a good life!!!!
7. if you are new to the Ukraine ALWAYS use a good agency... you need to use an agency who interviews the ladies... you need to be able to have a good translator who you get on well with.... you should e mail or better still phone the agency before you use it... ask some relevant questions... This will stop you whining on about all the failures that we all read about... I hope this helps someone!!!!!
Well this place is certainly interesting what happens when i type the word "cindyagency" into google.
I am going to Krivoy Rog in August so there are some interesting observations here for me.
I am at the moment using cindyagency and another agency too ,so after reading this forum i am now more aware.