Does anybody know Elena Sergeeva in Murom, Russia? I have received several letters from her, but she has not asked for money (not yet!) Yesterday I found her name listed at a black list of scammers at:
http://www.advicerussia.com/names_e.htm but there is not any picture of her posted. Has anyone ever
come across the woman by any chance??
Obviously... its best to avoid women that you find listed on a blacklist of scammers.
On-the-other-hand----(and I hate saying anything that might support scamming) those lists are composed of women that guys claim have scammed them.
Sometimes guys DO jump the gun, misinterpret something a woman said, may make assumptions about what she meant, we see it all the time in this very forum.
If she is LISTED as a scammer, TREAD VERY CAREFULLY - but realize that its possible that she really isn't. Cautiousness is key. Look for the details regarding WHY she was pegged as a scammer.
I don't know of this woman, but in addition to the matters pointed out by Jet, consider that she may have been black balled by some guy who didn't like the brush off.
Guys in this very forum have professed that a girl is a scammer merely because she mentioned "love" too quickly, or because her first or second letter doesn't seem to be personally written (direct questions were not answered). Instantly the "scammer" flag goes up, and it takes next to no effort to report the girl to a scammer site.
And how many guys hold ill will toward a girl who suddenly decides the guy isn't for her. They feel hurt, maybe even misled. So instantly she is reported as a scammer.
Again - see if you can find out any details about her supposed scam. And just be wary. You CANNOT be scammed if you are wary enough to prevent it.
Peterz
Rule number one:
Do not send money to someone you have never met in person.
That way you wallet will not be scammed.
When I first started corresponding to FSU women I did not know about the whole scamming mess. I corresponded with a girl and she professed her love to me after about 5 letters. Guess what? She wanted to visit me here in the US and wanted me to send her money. Shortly right after that I discovered this forum and after reading it I did not send her anything.
Sorry, I canīt help. Can you all help me? I live in Brazil and a russian girl wants to come over her. I am going to Portugal anyway and I believe itīs easier and cheaper to meet her in Portugal, for example and she insists that she would need a special VISA for PORTUGAL and that the cost of a trip from Moscow to Portugal would be more expensive then Moscow to Brazil. Whit what I canīt agree. Can anyone help me? Thanks. Edu, from Brazil.
Edu - I for one would never meet a girl for the first time outside her country, unless she was a professional escort. lol. What type of woman does this? Be a gentleman and meet her family first in her home country.
Otherwise, hire an escort.
Has anyone ever met someone for the first time on a travel date? Just curious what was going through your heads when you did it.
I actually did just that apal. I flew a girl from Vladisvostok to Thailand and had the best 2 weeks of my life. The only reason I did it was because it was my idea, she was disappointed I was not meeting her in her home town.
It has to be the right circumstances. Girls suggest it to me all the time and I normally hit the next button.
Yeah, I guess if it were you requesting it -- it would be totally spontaneous. I guess you could speak each other's language? Otherwise how the F did you find a russian translator in Thailand?
For her to speak English was no problem, she spent 4 years in the embassy in South Africa as a teenager. I couldnt help but to sneek a peek at her passport to be sure ))
I cant imagine how things could work if you use a translator. I think it would cramp my style more than a little. Have you used a translator ? How did it go?
I see you didn't trust her totally with that sneak peek. It truly sucks when you find out that other person is a pathological liar... but glad it worked for you. I wouldn't recommend ANY man do that on a first meeting...
Trust takes time to develope and I had only just met this girl. Her story was unbelievable but apparently true. She gave me her passport to put in the safe, so it was easy to admire her photo an causually scan the visa stamps.
It is necessary to take afew risks, otherwise nothing would ever happen.