I tried to send her off easy, but this bitch wants to play hardball because she is being removed from the sites, so there the show begins and let there be light and sound:
Marina Voloshina, 21 from Kiev, Ukraine (originally from Kremenchug where her hooker mother currently lives) featured on 3 legit sites:
www.loveme.com (I met her through this site) id=51114
www.eastmeetwest.com (replied immediately to the letter that I sent and said she is being removed) id=kz2250
www.kievconnections.com (replied immediately to the letter that I sent and said she is being removed) id=2487
She is also featured on www.ua-dating.com id=4272, the link below posting ad for escort services including a completely naked picture, take a look for yourself:
AFA (A Foreign Affair or loveme.com or a bunch of other acronyms they use) has not responded yet. Why? because they live on the revenue from the hookers they have on their site. It is common secret in the industry that they recruit any flashy gal for their socials including hookers. While I was with her, this hooker got a call on her cell from the local AFA inviting her on July 20th to one of the socials they had in Kiev. The hooker was very proud about being selected. No questions asked.
And one more thing, many people who visit this forum, typically unsuspected Americans, believe all Russian women are saints and are waiting for the white knight to take them away and all that crap. Well, guess again, they're not and very few of them are truly honest. Check out her pictures on the marriage sites and her pictures on the hooker site. It's the exact same woman. Bon apetit!
I guess you are sure this is the same woman, but it is hard to see without knowing her first. What is clear to see is how unhappy and abused, almost crying, the girl in the topless picture was. That doesn't match the cynical description you gave of her. How low can a site get with pictures like that. Sick. Pure compassionless, psychopathic sick.
Marina's eyes didn't look happy in the AFA picture either. You can see that life has gotten the better of her and she is desperately trying to find a place in it where she is accepted and loved, while it goes by her in some blurry haze.It's not common to see that in the eyes of such a young kid. Poor girl.
Norway, you seem a little shocked there. Why? You live in Europe, you can see things people here can't. A few months back I was in France. They had a show on TV, some documentary, about abused young Russian girls. There was this little girl, she was hardly 18 years, she was on a bed in a dark room half naked looking down on the floor like there was not tomorrow and no reason to live. It is the Russian men who sell them overseas for prostitution. There are two markets for Russian girls, the As go to France, Germany, the UK, Italy, Benelux, Switzerland and the Bs go to the other countries. Everyone knows about this. The hooker market in Europe is dominated by Russian girls. They are so much younger and more good looking and less damaged than domestic hookers. Look at newspaper ads, it's an advantage for a hooker to say she is Russian as opposed to any other nationality. Some try to get out of the crap, find someone to marry. Can you trust a woman who sells her body for money? I don't. I believe it's the soul she sells not only her body. Too sad, but not an issue for me to resolve.
Regarding this Marina woman, she is the same person at all four sites. In fact, I noticed she's already removed from "east west" and the owner from "kievconnections" sent me a long letter to apologize and said she is being removed. John Adams (AFA) also replied from Russia where he is currently and asked me for information, obviously he only got my first email where I didn't provide specifics. The only thing that's troublesome to me is why she picked the ugly naked pictures she put on "ua-dating" while she had much nicer naked pictures. Looking at the pics of some other "independent" girls advertising for escort services on the "ua-dating" site I noticed they're psoting the same kind of pictures, so maybe there is someone who takes the pics and manages the whole project (like a pimp for example?).
Anyway, no surprise there, just be very careful whom you are dating online. There are many hookers on marriage sites and especially in the socials. Just take a preview of how some women dress. They are looking for marriage, someone who will respect them ... and they expose their breasts and their naked back and try to be as provocative as they can. Cultural thing, I don't think so. They're trying to send a message. Do you get the message???
Shocked, yes. Taken by surprise no at all. Look I don't mind hedonism. I can even turn a blind eye to abc escort services. Sex without no committment one thing. Abuse another. Too many men on these sites have lists of grievances with woman who they couldn't relate to, who made them scared, so that they need to see a picture of a down and out, miserable defenceless woman to walk all over. Mens desire for dominance which totally rids them of all compassion. Sick. Why are these men so hell blind on dominance. Becasue they cannot meet anybody as a person. Just as something to eat before it eats you. Sick.
Actually the system may indeed work at least after the fact. She has been grounded from all sites. In fact, I never requsted her removal from the "ua-dating" site, however, I was notified by the owner of Kievconnections.Com, an American who lives in Kiev that he would make sure she is removed from other sites as well and she stays on the ground permanently (he claimed having influence on other sites). And, vuala!
I don't have any griff over this incident. For me it was indeed educational. But, I want to make sure she will not run the same scam on others. She can go about her business in the domestic market where she belongs.
So, conclusion, if we want, we can protect ourselves and there are means to do it.
Dvretto - you mentioned (earlier in this thread) that it is common knowledge that AFA brings hookers to socials, etc. So you have at some familiarity with at least the word-on-the-street regarding that tour company. Anything similar you can tell me (even rumor) about Anastasia or Russian Tours (Atlanta)?
I called her and she said she was busy but could meet. As for AFA it's common knowledge that their tours are favourites amoung the ladies of the nights. These tours are sick, lots of vilage girls show up for the first time then later the pros. After the pros show up the regular girls can't compete with the hot toddies. AFA won't remove her or the others.
OK guys, this may make me unpopular in some quarters, but hey, its not miss world or the grammies !!! So what do I care !!!
What a woman does in her life to live and survive is No ones business but hers !!
If she needs, or wants to sell her favours to feed and cloth herself then so be it, thats her body, her choice and no one has the right to f*ck with her choices !!
Many women who choose the oldest profession there is, have no or little other choice, and for what its worth, I have great respect for those who do it and still maintain a normal life outside of their "job" because thats exactly what it is to many girls who choose this career, a "job" nothing more.
I have friends who have done it, still do it, and some who it has f*cked up but many that have managed to have families and a really great life. I know a few girls who have had so much success at this "job" that they have a couple or more houses by the time they are 35 and don't have any debts or even a mortgage at all, go on holiday whenever they choose and have the best of everything in life that they want !! So it isn't all bad news !!
For my thinking, I would trust a woman who does this job far more than one who works for the Inland Revenue/ VAT or Customs, is a copper or worst of all, a Lawyer !!!!
At least working girls are honest about who they are and what they do !!
So lets have no more slagging off these ladies please, its not warranted and its not nice !!
On the other hand, I would gladly shoot any man who puts a woman into this job without her explicit consent, in fact, any man involved in this area is almost always not a good guy !!
I have been to several of AFA's social parties. I was swarmed by the women but not once have I been solicited by a working girl nor were any of my tour mates. AFA runs the best social party in the business. I also agree with all of Tim's points. Some of these so called working girls in the FSU are not pro's at all. Some girs do it only once a month to make some money to provide for their little child that was abondoned by the father.
Isnt it amazing, that a thread with "hoker" in the title has attracted 1800 + viewings :o)) I wonder what one with "Free sex in Russia" or even one with the word Hooker spelt correctly would attract ;o))