I just got back from Kiev , after using this fiance site, and jump4love. Jump4love is ABSOLUTE SCAM. Do not give it a dollar. Jesus I am humilated.
Fiance may have a few girls actually interested in a man, but it might be 10%. I found a married woman on here, that still to this day claims she is single, and offers me her agency's skype address (which is also a travel agency). Yet her VK page shows her wedding pictures. It is a riot !!! She blames our lack of meeting on me talking to too many girls... which she would only know if she was an interpreter at an agency.... SCAM
I met a reporter in Keiv, and many other men at pubs. The all say to use free sites like facebook, vk, etc.. That is where women that are serious about ameerican men are. Obviously, by using free, social media outlests.
Another good , low cost alternative in ukrainedate, or russiancupid. Both are ran by same company, but different women, and some are actually in USA.
Fuck this site. Every woman that I asked to go off site with, or actually meet with after 3 months of chats and productive emails, had a list of excuses when I got to Kiev, except one.
1 girl . out of about 40 .
Even the new ones are stuck to the script.." I feel safe here "
"The all say to use free sites like facebook, vk, etc.. That is where women that are serious about ameerican men are."
True you can message them for free on the two sites you mentioned. However, that's like finding a needle in a haystack (a girl who is searching for a foreign partner.) What you can do however, is go on the dating sites then use Google image search. The Chrome browser makes it easy. You right click the image and Search Google for Image. Sometimes you will get their VK or Facebook. Then you can message them there. A lot of times they'll just ignore you because many guys are pestering them or their photos have been stolen and are being used in the dating profile.
I often approach them like this, Hi I saw your profile on this site (http://_______) Is that really you? Sometimes they will admit that it is and you can start a conversation. Other times they will say that their photos were stolen and are being used in the profile. You can still approach them and ask if they'd like to communicate. If they say something like "communicate with me only through the site" that means they are getting paid for chat.
I don't get all the hand wringing. Fiance.Com is not a pay per letter site. You are already here. Go look at the women who joined just this week. There's always 4 to 6 sincere beautiful women. Yes, there are a few scammers, just like in every dating environment on earth. The last trip I went on before meeting my wife, I had over 11 women lined up to meet that I had been writing for months. My guess is (I'll never know for sure) that most were sincere. One even wanted to take me to her late patents country house, on a river for a week. There was NOWHERE to even spend money there. Before I got a chance to go there, I met my current wife and contacted each of them saying I had met my other half and it wouldn't be fair to her or them if I continued on with my plans to meet them. Nearly every single one thanked me for my honesty and sent their best wishes.
There's some here that have tried for decades and even if they don't admit it, have given up. There's a lot of these guys here. They say they are still looking, giving the appearance that it is an impossible task. Seriously if the idea of travel half way around the world to meet women 3 to 5 times a year fora coupleweeksata time is not a possibility for you, you probably shouldn't play this game.
Aren't you married to a Muslim man's reject? ... I mean wasn't she shacked up with and fucking a muslim guy, she needed a meal ticket to get out of the relationship and along you came ... You fat bastard?
Isn't that the truth of it?
Want to start offending, disgracing and insulting entire nations of women then try looking at the raghead lover that you sleep with of a night!
Tom Shea: ďGo look at the women who joined just this week. There's always 4 to 6 sincere beautiful women.Ē
There is no way,, WHATSOEVER to tell if a woman is sincere from a photo!!!
Sure, there might be 4 to 6 sincere women,, or there could be 8,, or none! You might find the photo of a sincere woman that doesnít even know that she is on a dating site.
I went to the site, and 3 caught my eye,,, 2 had kids (1 & 3) and the otherís profile didnít excite me.
I am 59 Years old And I Met a Girl which was 28. And she was a scammer.
In 2 days I Spent for her 350 Euro for example. I had to Pay in Restaurants always for 2 Girls. Her "Cousin" was boring, therefore she was Never lonely with me.
I had only much more Money for Taxi. Normaly the Price for travelling from one Part of the Town to the other is 50 Griwna, but I had to Pay 400 Griwna.
AT the end she was with me suddenly in a Boutique, where she wanted that I Pay for her Different cloths, Each of the peaces costed about 100 Euro. I Played a blouse for her - the Price was about 100 Euro.
That was My Last Action with her. I stopped relationship with her.
I think that the cleverst Girls have a Deal with Taxi Drivers And Owners of the Shop, the Girls get most percents of such Deals.
Here is my first post ! I live as an expat in Beijing . I found this site via a Ukrainian girl here in BJ. She was on that site for many years she told me and met 4 of you guys when she was in Kiev over 2 years.
Now she live in Beijing with many more Ukrainian girls and i should say , all stunning ! They all live in the same area in front of LG tower near the silk market for those of you who knows BJ. If you go to the Starbuck beside the town you will see them everyday.
Many of them and the Russians girls are working at Chocolates , a club at the edge of Ritan park. Yes they are very expensive working girls making a lot of money.
Whats interesting is, the majority of them were regular girl in Ukraine, their family think they have a regular paying job and a good boyfriend in China. The WG business started for them here and new ones are coming every weeks
to follow the lead of a sister or a friend. Some goes to Shanghai, some to Guangzhou. They don't work very long as they usually find a rich chinese boyfriend driving a Ferrari or a Lamborghini and they are out of circulation
It is very common to see a chinese guy walking wth two stunning blond in a restaurant in Sanlitun.
The thing is , the girls have a double life! they have or trying to have secret relationship with western guys on the side. As long as the guy does not expose her with the her source of income ( chinese guy) she becomes a regular girlfriend ( she needs to be attracted to you, she is looking for a real boyfriend material). The money they make goes almost entirely to their family home. SO there is no way they will cut short on that for love or romance.
I am dating one and on sundays she invite her friends over to my place for dinner with their western guys. These girls are really pulling their family out of poverty by sending good amount every week. One was telling me that in 2 years she will have enough money so she can really be independent and find the husband she wants.
Obviously that wont be us but in the mean time playing the secret boyfriend to a 29 years old Barbie is quite fun.
I saw my girl few times with her chinese boyfriend, she is a totally different girl. Heavy make up, very sexy and tight clothes , highest heels you can buy ,perfect long blond hair, expensive jewels with Michael kore bags (not fake) she is stunning ! When she comes to my place, loose clothes , no make up, her blond hair all over with her old leather bag, she is less stunning but more importantly , she is still more attractive then a lot of western or chinese girl.
My point is gentleman, for a lot of these girls if you can't secure their future or help them with their family they will pass on you until they can do that. They are committed women who will set aside love and romance to help family and friends first. IF she judge that you can't help her in any way other then loving her, she will pass on you . So be prepare to understand what does she needs to be secure in a relationship with you. It might be a lot of money so if you are not capable then don't venture in that relationship , you will end up with a broken heart.
I have to admit , i cannot tell the girl i date drop your chinese boyfriend and come live with me. Why? I can't provide all the resources she needs to accomplish her mission with family ( buy an apartment for her mother, get a car to a sister , help her brother with his alcohol problem and his two kids and the list goes on and on).
But, in her double life , i am the guy she date, no fuss, she comes to my place cook stuff , do the laundry and when her chinese boyfriend is gone she spend almost all her time with me and her friends. Ukrainian girls when they have the fundamental money issue off their head , they are like any girls in any country. She laugh a lot, she fart and she is a cool girl who can beat any guys at pool!
One rule in China, do what the chinese do!
If a restaurant is empty and the one beside is full, wait in line !
No chinese guy goes online for finding the love of their life on chinese dating site!
They know any cute girl in china are bombarded of demand by guys foreigners included on Wechat on weibo and even at Starbuck. No girls are waiting their prince on a website. The ration men versus women is a bit off due to the one child policy so women that take care of themselves , they have high social value.
But running a dating website or a dating agency is quite ease and easy money too! girls are on the take as they get a cut.
You want to meet a chinese girl seriously , come to china, get in touch with foreigners living here they will introduce you via wechat to some girls and you pick it up from their.
WECHAT is an app that is a must for dating in China .
"Eventually, I concluded that Russian women probably arenít for me. Though among the most beautiful in the world, they are too greedy for my taste, as well as stingy, taking, opportunistic, ungiving, stubborn, conscienceless, manipulative, deceptive, changeable, and hypocritical, all in extreme degrees. In addition, several strong conflicts exist between my mentality and theirs. Overall, as I and many others have learned, in the big picture the risks of being involved with women in Russia simply outweigh the benefits, and the bad experiences outweigh the good ones."
But the dating sites say the exact opposite? Maybe it might be somewhere in between? Maybe like trying to find a specific plankton in the ocean?
I think a lot of what you wrote is true to a point,,, but much of it is out of the agency girl handbook. The dates canít all go well,,, something has to happen to mix things up,, to make the guy feel bad so that he smothers her in flowers and gifts.