Whoever told the idiot my wife was, then, quote 'seriously' ill?
You point them out to me and I'll have a word with them :)
You said she was quite seriously ill liar. 4 days with a woman in Nikolaev they legging it to the serious ill ex, then getting married in the same time span in April. You lied as usual.
Also with you it is power. If it wasn't you wouldn't slither your sorry butt back into this forum after being kicked out of here twice. Then coming back as FFC. What an absolute joke. You twist and whine and slither like the snake you are.
You make snide remarks to other members then put your faggot smiley at the end of it like you didn't really mean, when we know you did.
If you got married in that April you had to do it in the hospital or she wasn't that ill, or ill at all which would have been a lie all in the same.
As for your Age, I did say 54 or 56 doesn't really matter and that was based on your pathetic picture in freepersonals. Which who does market research on a free site. As for having an affair. You may have, at least you are claiming it in your posts hear. You were married for 9 months, then seeing a woman in April when you claimed to be married in a post, that was not a mistake in timing, you don't forget when you were married unless you are an ultimate asswipe, which in your case may fit. So you either went to see another woman when married, or you weren't married and then lied anyway.
How's that $50K apartment you inherited going these days? Wasn't that mommie and daddies apartment? So how did you inherit that? Or was your claim in another forum a lie? Martin you are so full of crap, no one can believe a word you are saying. We have a saying here in America and I know how you hate Americans. If your lips are moving Martin, you're probably lying.
If I really wanted to research this forum I probably could come up with at least 20 discrepancies you have made on your so called private life. Though what's been brought out here is enough for now. Guys who must always proclaim how straight forward and honest they are usually aren't.
So your lame, age, travel to Ukraine I could care less. You have lied about your relationships and that in itself ruins your credibility in this forum. Who cares whether it was a gay forum or not. You posted other members profiles on other sites. I sawNor and Toads on that gay site. Nor told me about it. That's where the fire the torpedos mate, post comes from. You really are a creepy person deep down.
No Nor was a decent human being something you could never claim to be. It isn't about power with me, it's about someone that has ruined this forum for many people, these pages don't move nearly as much as they used to. It's about a sneaky person that goes on another forum and Says how corrupt fiance.com is, when in truth they aren't corrupt. You are the corrupt individual. It's about an individual, you Martin that makes a life out of posting ridiculous charges about people, to make your meaningless life more important.
You are being exposed as a fraud and that should warn people to verify any advice you give, which may not be the truth. I had to laugh, you talked about the Power Plant at the dam. Funny if you Google Zaporozhye the picture of the dam comes up. Way too funny.
Quote from you:
"that doesn't change the fact that you knew the truth"
Really?
Then tell me Martina, why I should have posted it then?
AND subsequently apologize for it?
Conclude with me that your above crap statement is, as per your usual, a fabricated unsubstantiated LIE (it appears you're paranoid for this last word hence my use of it).
So, come on now, try to be a big boy, swallow hard, blush, and....... apologise?
But you're such a coward you'd hide for a goldfish, you won't.
Just know this:
If there's anyone you should apologise to they are...
- this forum's moderators (plural & both sexes), for sending excruciatingly insulting & derogative remarks
- Toad, who is & was way too wise for your caliber so you made something up
The reasons for you insulting each of the above are...
- they wield powers which limit you in your doings here
- you felt helpless against such a clever chap
Shall I tell you what? All those reasons are true too, and so, for anyone reading here, inbetween shines through your stupidity, clumsiness, jealousy and your overall eerie creepy personality, such a complex one at that that you alone probably will freak out a psychiatrist.
You're a lowlife Martin, a coward of note, a disturbed freak which should either get locked away or treated.
Don't meet me, ever.
"those that are natural English speakers"
Marthel, tell me, you know exactly what my mother tongue is? Got several, so be careful now.....
Bonehead,
One thing that you cannot do is change history, you lied and whilst you were subsequently man enough to apologise, that hasn't changed the history that I proved you to be a downright liar, both you and your bum chum.
I could say that black is black and you pair of jokers would automically jump up and tell me that I was lying and as for, your claimed, my favouring of the word 'liar' well revisit that PM your bum chum sent to me on 02 March, he started this bout of 'liar' nonsense and because he is losing 4 to nil he, and you, have resorted to cheap shots and insults, the same as you always do.
You say those 4 points of yours are correct, well prove them to be correct, what are you going to say, that you're a mind reader?
Now crawl back in to your little hole, you, and bum boy, have lost your little game of proving me to be a liar, you know it, he knows it and I know it and everybody that reads this nonsense through will know it also.
What the jokers are trying to do is post load upon load of cr@p into this thread so that (my) truth shall be lost in the archives, the truth that proves the idiot to be full of sh1t and indeed a liar, so I'll post it again, and again if need be, to refresh it:
I'll let others decide, particularly those that are natural English speakers, if there is a significant difference between 'quite seriosly ill' (quite means moderately in the English dictionary) and 'seriously ill'.
There we go, back to his sad ways, he can't prove me to be a liar, because I'm not, so he reverts to calling me names of slithery, twisty, whiny, faggot, pathetic, lame, sneaky, corrupt, ridiculous, meaningless, fraudulent but he, by stealth, admits to his outright lies that I did not post a profile in a gay forum and that he lied regarding my age.
It takes a real man to resort to name calling in such volumes :) It also takes a man, T-bone for example, to apologise when he is proven to be wrong, this idiot is obviously not a man ..... but I knew that already.
And, just for the record, anybody that knows anything about Ukrainian hospitals will know that one doesn't get drugs or medicines unless one pays for them! Also, has anybody here tasted Ukrainian hospital food? No, you won't, because there isn't any food in Ukrainian hospitals!
Hence, in 2005, I travelled to Zaporozhye, not only because I was worried about her, but because complications had set in post operation and she needed drugs and medicines urgently and I went there to provide them.
She was also surviving on cold, oversalted, mashed potato that her brother was bringing in. Anyone should know that nutrition aids recovery thus I was eating out at our favourite restaurants and getting a carry out of nutritious food to take back to her.
With a combination of drugs, medicines and nutritious food I 'sorted her out' and, from memory, within a couple of days (ish) she was OK, not good, but OK.
That's what caring for somebody is all about, people can talk about love, these 'one trip wonders' particularly that declare they are in love after one trip, but along with love comes caring about somebody and for some tosser from USA to constantly, for 3 years, pour scorn on the love and care between my wife and I, just because he is jealous, well do I give a shit?
For all I care he can go to his grave still believing that he knows everything and believing that I am a liar, I couldn't care less, but if he badmouths me in public, through his jealousy and obvious attitude problem, then I shall respond to it.
Martin,
for someone who has a wife,a life,a hectic business schedule,and a soaring career in the aviation industry amongst many other projects.....you spend an unhealthy amount of time on this forum.
So much space is taken up by this need to have the last word,it's wearing very very thin.
I'm 1000% sure that everyone on this forum has made up their mind as to your personality and your motives for doing what you do.
"Cheap shots and insults" you say........"4 to nil"......"bum chum"......"bum boy"......quick quiz for you:
agree with gladiator...you give alot of good advice martin if everything you say is the truth then why care what anyone says others opinions are unimportant if you know the truth
Everytime I prove him/them to be a liar, thus putting that matter to bed, he/they come back with another allegation or, if they are losing, cheap shots and/or insults.
I am the defender here so how can you say that I have to have the last word? If the matter were to stop right at this moment then I would leave it at that but I'm sure, and I think that you know also, that 'Mr Last Word' himself will be back to continue it.
Just look at who started this nonsense in his PM to me of 02 March so, please, gladiator do not try to pin the guilt on me because it simply will not wash.
I too, agree with gladiator and colin. Man, shutup Martin. EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OWN OPINION, who cares if they're lying? It doesnt bother me.
Get off your high horse and start to show a bit of maturity. We dont care about your childish disputes with other members on these forums. Put it to bed. Grow up Martin. Not knowing, but I would assume everyone would agree with me, You need to relax and stop picking fights...
Only my opinion, but both Nasfan and Martin give excellent advice here to people who are seeking it. I wouldn't like to see either of them leave the forum, and no one should be bullied off.
A middle aged cage fight somewhere though. Man, I would even travel to see that!
Only joking of course.
Just let it rest guys. This is only a forum.
Martins command of the English language is worse than his command of the truth.
Quite is used as an intensifier in the language. So lets say, He's quite a fine chap, are you saying he's a moderately fine chap? Bull, when someone is described as seriously ill, they are very ill, add quite to the beginning of that and it becomes more than just seriously ill.
Let's say for a minute I lied about your age. Okay I based that on your sorry picture. I'll give you that one, then it stops there.
One you parce words, so if you didn't post Nors profile on a gay site why did he give it to me to see him and Toad both on that site? The bottomline is, you posted profiles of both of them for revenge. It doesn't matter where, you did it. That makes you a creep.
Two you agitated Nor about whether "His buddy" was a blatant liar or not. What did that have to do with Nor?Who said Nor and Toad were friends? Only thing was he chastised you for being such a moron with your blitzing of the forums.
You claimed in a post to be Married before April of 2005, though that was just a failing of your memory you claim, bull, It was a downright lie just to make you look good, like you now are the experienced one in marriage. How can a man who has just be married 4 months prior forget his time he's married? Only if he lies about it.
In another post you claim to have only been going to see one woman for 2.5 years in Zaporozhye. Well that negates the visit in Nikoleav, the only two ways that statement can work is it is a lie. You either went to see a woman in Nikoleav or it was a lie, or you have been only seeing one woman in Zaporozhye which makes the Nikoleav lady a lie. So which is it?
In a post to Jetmba you claimed to be married in April of 2005. Not possible unless one, she wasn't quite seriously ill, which would make that a lie, or you did it within three days because you visited a lady in Nikoleav for four days, then legged it to the bedside of the "quite seriously" ill girlfriend now wife. So after nourishing her back to OK you got married? doesn't scan, you had a plane to catch or your tickets on geocities are a fabrication, though I doubt it, you thought it would make me out a liar and it didn't, it's just buried you more.
So you couldn't have been Married in April of 2005. You didn't have time.
As for Ukrainian hospitals go, you can get fed in them, but the custom is family and friends bring food because the food is crap. You only get two meals a day in most hospitals. It is what it is. So now call my wife a liar too since that information came from her.
You attempt to always make yourself better than others here, you overcome incredible obstacles to make this fantasy of your work. The point and you have covered it well is not about your marriage, but your lies here, that makes anything you say, suspect.
Make no mistake about it Martin, it's not about Jealousy, why in Gods name should I be jealous of a cretin like you? In 15 days we will have been married for 2 years. I don't have to fabricate my marriage time. Or have a convenient memory loss. 2 months prior to that she came to the USA, and she's been by my side each and every day, you know the Tart and Dyke as you referred to her as. Where has your's been? What are you doing for your Anniversary this year, taking her to Obriens Pub?
No Marty, this isn't about jealousy, it's about a reckoning. About a real marriage verses a fabricated one, or a sponsorship which ever you may want to call it.
As for your lies there are many, insults to go around. You've been banned twice from here, but come back. Because you rubbed the noses of the moderators about your Various IP's and they could never stop you from posting. Who wants control and power??? Not me I will continue to point out your lies and mis statements, exxagerations and convenient memory losses.
Hows the apartment remodeling goingin Zaporozhye, the one you inherited? Did you lift a hand to repair it. Highly unlikely. That's another story you have contradicted yourself with. We'll save that for later.
nasfan6 Martin_FFC 02.03.2008 20:17:25
I will continue to prove you are the liar that you are until you admit the truth.
Martins command of the English language is worse than his command of the truth.
Quite is used as an intensifier in the language. So lets say, He's quite a fine chap, are you saying he's a moderately fine chap? Bull, when someone is described as seriously ill, they are very ill, add quite to the beginning of that and it becomes more than just seriously ill.
ILL MIGHT BE INFLUENZA OR SIMILAR, SERIOUSLY ILL MIGHT MEAN ON THEIR DEATHBED, QUITE SERIOUSLY ILL MEANS SOMEWHERE INBETWEEN, PROVE ME A LIAR THEN?
One you parce words, so if you didn't post Nors profile on a gay site why did he give it to me to see him and Toad both on that site? The bottomline is, you posted profiles of both of them for revenge. It doesn't matter where, you did it. That makes you a creep.
PROVE IT THEN, AS PER YOUR LOUDMOUTHED PM OF 02 MARCH?
Two you agitated Nor about whether "His buddy" was a blatant liar or not. What did that have to do with Nor?Who said Nor and Toad were friends? Only thing was he chastised you for being such a moron with your blitzing of the forums.
PROVE IT THEN, AS PER YOUR LOUDMOUTHED PM OF 02 MARCH?
You claimed in a post to be Married before April of 2005, though that was just a failing of your memory you claim, bull, It was a downright lie just to make you look good, like you now are the experienced one in marriage. How can a man who has just be married 4 months prior forget his time he's married? Only if he lies about it.
PROVE IT THEN, AS PER YOUR LOUDMOUTHED PM OF 02 MARCH?
In another post you claim to have only been going to see one woman for 2.5 years in Zaporozhye. Well that negates the visit in Nikoleav, the only two ways that statement can work is it is a lie. You either went to see a woman in Nikoleav or it was a lie, or you have been only seeing one woman in Zaporozhye which makes the Nikoleav lady a lie. So which is it?
PROVE IT THEN, AS PER YOUR LOUDMOUTHED PM OF 02 MARCH?
In a post to Jetmba you claimed to be married in April of 2005. Not possible unless one, she wasn't quite seriously ill, which would make that a lie, or you did it within three days because you visited a lady in Nikoleav for four days, then legged it to the bedside of the "quite seriously" ill girlfriend now wife. So after nourishing her back to OK you got married? doesn't scan, you had a plane to catch or your tickets on geocities are a fabrication, though I doubt it, you thought it would make me out a liar and it didn't, it's just buried you more.
PROVE IT THEN, AS PER YOUR LOUDMOUTHED PM OF 02 MARCH?
So you couldn't have been Married in April of 2005. You didn't have time.
As for Ukrainian hospitals go, you can get fed in them, but the custom is family and friends bring food because the food is crap. You only get two meals a day in most hospitals. It is what it is. So now call my wife a liar too since that information came from her.
PROVE IT THEN, AS PER YOUR LOUDMOUTHED PM OF 02 MARCH?
You attempt to always make yourself better than others here, you overcome incredible obstacles to make this fantasy of your work. The point and you have covered it well is not about your marriage, but your lies here, that makes anything you say, suspect.
PROVE IT THEN, AS PER YOUR LOUDMOUTHED PM OF 02 MARCH?
Make no mistake about it Martin, it's not about Jealousy, why in Gods name should I be jealous of a cretin like you? In 15 days we will have been married for 2 years. I don't have to fabricate my marriage time. Or have a convenient memory loss. 2 months prior to that she came to the USA, and she's been by my side each and every day, you know the Tart and Dyke as you referred to her as. Where has your's been? What are you doing for your Anniversary this year, taking her to Obriens Pub?
No Marty, this isn't about jealousy, it's about a reckoning. About a real marriage verses a fabricated one, or a sponsorship which ever you may want to call it.
PROVE IT THEN, AS PER YOUR LOUDMOUTHED PM OF 02 MARCH?
Who wants control and power??? Not me I will continue to point out your lies and mis statements, exxagerations and convenient memory losses.
PROVE IT THEN, AS PER YOUR LOUDMOUTHED PM OF 02 MARCH?
Hows the apartment remodeling goingin Zaporozhye, the one you inherited? Did you lift a hand to repair it. Highly unlikely. That's another story you have contradicted yourself with. We'll save that for later.
PROVE IT THEN, AS PER YOUR LOUDMOUTHED PM OF 02 MARCH?
Squirm worm, squirm. Somewhere in between? Oh My God, you are an absolute joke.
Martin_UK
Member Send: 23.01.2006 6:47:39
So what is your point Nasfan?
Yes, I posted a profile of NOR after he had posted a similar profile of me, as I say, please define your interpretation of the word 'many'?
LIE #1 YOU DID POST A PROFILE OF NOR AND ALSO TOAD, MAYBE TWO OF NOR. NOR NEVER POSTED A PROFILE OF YOU, YOU PROBABLY DID IT YOURSELF TO START TROUBLE.
LIE #2 YOU'VE CLAIMED TO BE MARRIED BEFORE APRIL OF 2005
Martin_UK
Member Send: 10.02.2006 3:19:04
jetmba,
I was married, if you must know, in April of last year and if you can find anything that I have ever said regarding being married before April 2005 then please be my guest and post it.
With regards to that profile being updated in early 2005, perhaps it was, to be honest I cannot recall but there was a circumstance, that I explained to a buddy of yours previously, whereas around late 2004/early 2005 I became a 'free agent' however this situation was relatively short lived, approximately 4 months, before I became 'off the market' again.
That is all I am saying on that subject, whether you and your buddies choose to believe if I am married or not, well do I care, not!
Your previous post, which seems to have been moderated, and as per previous posts by other forum members, clearly gave the impression that you and your buddies do not believe that married guys should have any say in matters in this forum, a total contradiction in terms of what the forum administration say on the matter.
Martin_UK
Member Send: 09.10.2005 11:01:56
Vain,
Bearing in mind that I am not American, a green card is totally irrelevant.
My wife and I have discussed everything to the finest detail, she's in that much of a hurry to get a western passport that after 2+ years of being together, and 9+ months of marriage, she remains in Ukraine, working and supporting herself, whilst we work together solving some (Ukrainian) family issues.
Please do not typecast all relationships based on your own sorry experience(s), you have no focking idea what a strong bond my wife and I have, we truly are the best of friends, we take what we have between us very seriously and we have a lot of fun in the process.
Who's the loser, me with a loving wife and best friend or you, a bitter & twisted individual whose only want is to spread gloom and despondancy?
(9+ MONTHS OF MARRIAGE, NOT JUST NINE MONTHS, IS AN ABSOLUTE LIE, KIND OF LIKE QUITE SERIOUSLY?)
LIE#3 AND THE HITS KEEP ON ROLLING.
Martin_UK
Member Send: 16.09.2006 16:12:37
Excuse me but I was travelling to the same lady in Ukraine for some 2.25 years, her friend would normally pick me up from the airport or my lady would negotiate with a taxi driver, not a taxi company, for a good deal, we have never needed an interpreter, again any apartment was negotiated for the best price and I can assure you that my lady would not be interested in a few dollars here and a few dollars there.
For someone to generalise all others, as above, by his own bad experience(s) is bullshit!
(TRAVELLING TO THE SAME LADY FOR 2.25 YEARS, MEANS NO LADY IN NIKOLEAV WHAT PART OF ENGLISH DO YOU HAVE TROUBLE WITH? ALL DEPENDS ON YOUR WHAT YOUR DEFINITION OF IS,IS. MR. CLINTON)
We'll save the others for later, hell this is an easy top ten list of lies and fabrications an absolute obnoxiousness.
Oh Martin, which pm of 02 March would you like I prove, might as well keep it rolling, you've lied three times above, next three will make it six times.
Squirm worm, squirm. Somewhere in between? Oh My God, you are an absolute joke.
Martin_UK
Member Send: 23.01.2006 6:47:39
So what is your point Nasfan?
Yes, I posted a profile of NOR after he had posted a similar profile of me, as I say, please define your interpretation of the word 'many'?
LIE #1 YOU DID POST A PROFILE OF NOR AND ALSO TOAD, MAYBE TWO OF NOR. NOR NEVER POSTED A PROFILE OF YOU, YOU PROBABLY DID IT YOURSELF TO START TROUBLE.
LIE #2 YOU'VE CLAIMED TO BE MARRIED BEFORE APRIL OF 2005
Martin_UK
Member Send: 10.02.2006 3:19:04
jetmba,
I was married, if you must know, in April of last year and if you can find anything that I have ever said regarding being married before April 2005 then please be my guest and post it.
With regards to that profile being updated in early 2005, perhaps it was, to be honest I cannot recall but there was a circumstance, that I explained to a buddy of yours previously, whereas around late 2004/early 2005 I became a 'free agent' however this situation was relatively short lived, approximately 4 months, before I became 'off the market' again.
That is all I am saying on that subject, whether you and your buddies choose to believe if I am married or not, well do I care, not!
Your previous post, which seems to have been moderated, and as per previous posts by other forum members, clearly gave the impression that you and your buddies do not believe that married guys should have any say in matters in this forum, a total contradiction in terms of what the forum administration say on the matter.
Martin_UK
Member Send: 09.10.2005 11:01:56
Vain,
Bearing in mind that I am not American, a green card is totally irrelevant.
My wife and I have discussed everything to the finest detail, she's in that much of a hurry to get a western passport that after 2+ years of being together, and 9+ months of marriage, she remains in Ukraine, working and supporting herself, whilst we work together solving some (Ukrainian) family issues.
Please do not typecast all relationships based on your own sorry experience(s), you have no focking idea what a strong bond my wife and I have, we truly are the best of friends, we take what we have between us very seriously and we have a lot of fun in the process.
Who's the loser, me with a loving wife and best friend or you, a bitter & twisted individual whose only want is to spread gloom and despondancy?
(9+ MONTHS OF MARRIAGE, NOT JUST NINE MONTHS, IS AN ABSOLUTE LIE, KIND OF LIKE QUITE SERIOUSLY?)
LIE#3 AND THE HITS KEEP ON ROLLING.
Martin_UK
Member Send: 16.09.2006 16:12:37
Excuse me but I was travelling to the same lady in Ukraine for some 2.25 years, her friend would normally pick me up from the airport or my lady would negotiate with a taxi driver, not a taxi company, for a good deal, we have never needed an interpreter, again any apartment was negotiated for the best price and I can assure you that my lady would not be interested in a few dollars here and a few dollars there.
For someone to generalise all others, as above, by his own bad experience(s) is bullshit!
(TRAVELLING TO THE SAME LADY FOR 2.25 YEARS, MEANS NO LADY IN NIKOLEAV WHAT PART OF ENGLISH DO YOU HAVE TROUBLE WITH? ALL DEPENDS ON YOUR WHAT YOUR DEFINITION OF IS,IS. MR. CLINTON)
We'll save the others for later, hell this is an easy top ten list of lies and fabrications an absolute obnoxiousness.
Is it possible to post in Braille on this site? On second thoughts Braille is only for the blind, how does one post for the deaf, dumb and blind?
Someone, please someone, explain to the idiot that he has been proved a liar four times in as many weeks, he insisted, some 5 weeks ago, that he was not going to stop until he proved me to be a liar and some 5 weeks later he has proved diddly squat with his biased speculation, hearsay, rumours, cheap shots, insults and general crap.
I am up for a laugh like many of you are but this is ridiculously boring, if he has some concrete facts then let us hear it but until then someone please, in braille or whatever, explain to him that he is a boring shit, I couldn't give a shit, you couldn't give a shit (unless you're Thunderdome), and by all means come back when he has some concrete facts.
I grew up with an amount of jealousy around me hence I simply don't have time for it these days, yes my wife is young (ish), yes my wife is beautiful, yes my wife has a brilliant personality, yes my wife has a wonderful sense of humour and if that is too much for any one, or two, of you you to bear then I couldn't care less.
nasfan, over these past 4 weeks, has been proved a 4 times liar.
thunderdome, over these past 4 weeks, has been proved a 2 times liar.
And, over the same period, I have not been proved to be a liar once.
And there I am leaving it, if nasfan wants to continue it then it must be with his prick in his right hand, after all that's all he's good for!