And tannsub do not misinterpret my posts. I was mainly trying to say that we all have an ideal of what we want in a partner and have the right to select on our criteria. You ask a question and all you will ever get on a forum is opinions. Monada gave her opinion and was chastised for it. I have nothing against other races and have friends in most of them. But if you had no prejudice you could just go sit on the street and ask every man, woman and child if they would marry you and accept the first one to say yes. And as far as beliefs I will want a prospective partner to be open and accepting of my beliefs as I am sure you will. I am sure you would not want an adamant Christian any more than I would want and adamant Hindu or whichever is your belief. So in my opinion applying equal opportunities to this endeavor is futile because each individual has their own criteria.
Oz, If you had known what a Nestor robot is, you would have understood that I only made an out of context joke. A harmless one at that.
If all you want is a Christian bride, you can find millions in India, perhaps stronger in their beliefs than you can ever be- women I won't even look at or touch with a five feet pole. But I am sure they will be taken to a white man, like many in India are, and you can find your bride. Except that they are worse than scum.
And stick to either races or religion, don't mix both in the presumption that christians are white. Plenty of missionaries have made sure that Christianity is practiced across races irrespective of their cultural repercussions.
And no, I am not looking to exploit the girl I am talking about, man. If I want to do that, I just have to go northern part of India and I have seen plenty of gorgeous Ukrainian women indulging in prostitution there. So no, you got that part wrong. I just said I am not looking to marry 'a Ukrainian' like many of you here. I just want to marry 'that girl'. I don't care about anybody else in Ukraine or their economy. For all I know, she may not be the kind of girl I am looking for. But what won't happen is me knocking on her door or ending up with a black eye.
I have seen plenty of Europeans, Australians, Americans go on a world tour in their teens - something that I could never have afforded in my teens. Its their adventure. I am 26 now, and have enough money for my adventure. That's all.
Apart from one person, billgreen54, and a couple of others goading me because they like this circus act of mine, I haven't seen anything that could of help for me in this forum. That's why I refrain from posting. Monada may be honest and I like her, but her rants about black men and culture isn't helpful in anyway except to quench her own ego and that of her nation and redirect this discussion into an analysis of race relations in Ukraine.
the story that you have told is quite like the story of my life. You can try it, there is 50% possibility you will succeed. As I understood you, you want to find her at her job. One advice - don't tell her at the first place the whole truth coz it will scare her.
By the way the colour of the skin doesn't matter. But your religion is a big deal
I am curious and do not intend any malice but each religion has a belief of where you come from and where you go to. If we are fortunate we will spend 80+ years on this earth. Now we have history dating back some 6,000 years (this using the bible from Addam and Eve to now, other religions may differ). So we could exist 1.5% on this earth of the known history of man. And known history is only a speck compared to eternity. So where does someone with no religious beliefs think that they will go when this life is over? Does the part of you that is you just evaporate and is no more?
And I will grant that if those of us who have religious beliefs are wrong then we may not get what we expect but we will still have the piece of mind and the hope of it to help us with the struggles of this life.
Thank you for the answer Julia. I always wondered about this question.
I hope for a better place after this life as is promised in the book of John in the Bible. Being in the United States 80+% profess to be Christian probably between 10 and 20% actually know what this means but it is strange to think of nothing being there after this life. To me it would almost make the value of this life nothing.
This is very interesting to me. I will think much about it.
Oz, look at this from another point of view. To my mind you are wrong. If there is nothing after this life ... then this life is everything you have
Do you understand? You don't have something more. Only this life. So make it worth and take everything from it. Don't be afraid and surely don't regret about anything.
Religion only gives birth to fear. What do religious people think of? Every day they think about death and about what will be after it.
So... is this a good life when every your living day you think of death?
After life there is nothing, just blackness, no pearly gates of heaven and no bright light with angels flying around it..people have died "crossed over" to the spiritual plane and been bought back to life in hospital and describe death as nothingness so why fear nothing!
The Popes church is full of peadophiles and other sordid clergy and it makes money, the church is richer than the Queen of England.
It thrives on putting fear of sin into its people!
I certainly believe that we were created by an intelligent creator - far beyond our own intelligence. And I know, without a doubt, that all is not over when we die. There is certainly life after death.
Shakespeare said it nicely: (Hamlet) "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
But I have a little trouble with the storybook we call the Bible.
Julia I am not sure that I have a fear of death. I would prefer to see a little more of this life first though. I have been where I thought I would meet death twice. The first I tried to swim to a boat on a lake that did not look that far away and had to be rescued, the second I fell 40 feet from a bridge. Both times it seemed that I had plenty of time to think and to realize the odds were not good before rescue and before hitting the ground respectively. I would describe it as more of a sober mindset of entering the unknown than one of fear. I do not think of death much for myself. And you bring out a good point that religion is not about escaping after death but that is a side benefit of enjoying life. The love of your god and the peace you have of not being alone because his spirit is with you is biggest benefit of it.
Aussiman and Jet do not confuse the image you see in the organized church and in Christians to be an accurate reflection of the storybook called the bible. An Organization sometimes does things in the best interest of the organization rather than because it is the truth. If you believe god made this earth and all that is on it do you really think he would have difficulty making all of the money or gold he needs?
Three years ago my father slowly died in my arms early one dreadful morning… It shook and stunned me so much that I have been searching ever since for answers about life, death and the afterlife. As I see it here’s the paradox: life's greatest mystery -death- “seems” to be its opposite and... It’s very denial. However, anyone with some investigation into this great mystery (with an open mind) will come to realize what "all" major religions of the world hint at... the opposite of death is birth, not life. Life in essence is... consciousness, it's eternal and has no opposite (end). After birth there is no death, only the metamorphosis of life-forms into this or that. With that said... I firmly believe we all evolve into that which our consciousness (soul) believes in “at the point of crossing over”. Those that believe in heaven (in whatever form their belief dictates) will journey to their "heaven". Those that worship and believe in evil... will journey to an afterlife of evil, wickedness and pain. Those that simply believe in nothingness (Julia_000) will journey to stagnant consciousness neither evolving nor departing and will forever be trapped in "limbo” (indeterminate state). We are transcending conscientious (changing souls) therefore at the point of “crossing over” we truly become what we believe.
There was a movie released in 1979 called "Beyond Death's Door". I saw it in the theater and then it just seemed to disappear. It was a documentary about people's experiences who had clinically died and came back to life. It seems that the people who died naturally or were in accidents shared a similar wonderful experience and I do not remember which religions were represented but there were several and I do not remember if there was anyone who was not a believer of some religion. It seems two people tried to commit suicide and both had similar horrible experiences.
I wish I could find the movie again but have not been able to.
Oz... yup, you understand! For a good read on the subject get the book "Life After Death" by author Deepak Chopra. It enlightend and enhanced my knowledge on the subject. Since reading it I have a new outlook on the life/death/afterlife theme and remarkably... I now am able to partially (limited) control my dreams (dreams are a state of altered consciencious).
I absolutely believe in a metamorphisis - that we move on to something else after we leave here. Where and when is difficult to determine and certainly no communicatable to those left in this existance.
But before we move on to the next stage - we may linger here for some length of time. I have had several convincing paranormal experiences that prove to me that there is certainly some immediate existance after the living breathing body has ceased its functions.
"intelligent creator ;; so you belive like a thing like living breathing thing what ever it was created this place.. "
Not neccessarily "living and breathing" in the sense that we are. We breath to provide oxygen to our cells, in order to keep the physical vessal we occupy here alive. That which makes us ourselves (our souls, if you will) doesn't need to breath, after the body ceases. And I am sure that our intelligent creator doesn't either.
Thanks Jet, I looked at that site earlier and did not understand what it was so did not register. I registered now and they sent me to amazon.com where there is a 2004 release with the same name but I am not sure it is the same film.
guys,why worry about if there is an afterlife after death,do you think that when you believe in heaven you will end up in heaven after you die, when you believe in hell, you will get to hell? When you believe in a second life, you will get a second life? Even if you worry or wish there is an afterlife, what can you do about it? You cannot control how long you will live in this life, you can only control your own death. So,live your life day by day and be grateful you can pass another day. "Carpe Diem"