Staying with my girl and her parents in their flat here in Rivne.
Maybe 4 inches of snow everywhere.
A normal day here in Ukraine, seems strange, back home in the UK the Queen is preparing for her annual Christmas day speech.
Got engaged to my girl last Wednesday.
Just completed the on-line Marriage Visa application but, no free dates for the interview in Kiev, need to keep checking and hopefully soon some dates will become available in Feb and March.
I have made 5 trips to see her here in Rivne this year since we met back in July.
When i'm in the UK we see and talk to each other for free on Skype, thankfully she has internet at home.
My first 3 trips i stayed in a relatively cheap hotel, but the last 2 trips (including this one) i stay with her at her parents 2 bedroom flat.
Age difference wise.....i turned 45 in November, although i do look, and perhaps even act younger, she just turned 29.
Attractivness wise.....i am reasonably nice i guess with own hair, teeth, tall etc, she, when she isn't working all the hours god sends in that supermarket, is a god damn supermodel. Every guy there wants to make whoopi with her, i kid you not, i've seen them around her.
I mention the above only to show that my experience in this whole FSU dating game is that it really does just come down to good old chemistry between 2 people. Yes there are scammers, i met one last year from the dreaded Globaladies in Kherson. Yes there are dodgy dating sites. But, there are also no hard and fast rules.
Last year was my first ever trip to Ukraine and, dating wise, it was a disaster. This summer i knew the advice i had read on here and other places only too well......dont give up if you are serious about finding love with an FSU girl, so, i joined a new site...TAU2 and began the searching profiles routine all over again. I corrosponded with 3 girls off the site, then about 5 weeks later i travelled to Kiev, met 2, beautiful, but for me no click, then travelled on to Rivne and met my girl, we clicked immediately, and that night back at the hotel i pinched myself as i reflected on the date i had just enjoyed with her, and as i read her sms to me saying what a lovely time she had, what a fantastic guy i am, and how she hopes i want to see her again.
After about 1 week she introduced me to her 5 year old boy, then, a few days later her parents. We all get on wonderful, and i am so happy.
I am by no means the expert on FSU dating, others on here have far more experience than me and deserve their standing on here. Had you of tapped me on the shoulder 18mths ago and told me i would soon be ignoring British girls, and looking for love in the FSU and, whats more, i will find it, i would of told you that you are crazy and should seek medical treatment. Life is itself crazy sometimes, yes?
There are problems here, my girls brother (who's room i sleep in when i'm here) told me today that Ukraine is on the bomb, it's 15 UAH to 1 GBP now. My girl works 245 hours a month in her local supermarket and for the past 3mths has not been paid her full salary, all staff there are getting around only 70% of their salaries. Prices for goods are slowly creeping up, and up. There have been 2 attacks on girls in the past 6 weeks here in Rivne, Ukrainian guys robbing mobile phones and purses.
Anyway, sorry for the long post, my girl is bathing, her parents are in the living room listening to music and i just thought i'd have some time on the PC.
Ok Danny Boy thanks for the advice. Its greatly appreciated. Your story confirms what I have said in previous posts, that a girl with a child is a blessing and not a curse. Good luck to you and let us know if she has friends looking for good man.
Yes, you are right, a girl with a child is by no means a curse. Women are fully capable of loving both a man and a child. And maybe this is of some help to those that believe otherwise........it is 11.32 here in Ukraine, i have just returned from my girls little boys new year school play, i attended with my girl, who managed to get 1 hour off work, and her mum. We watched the play along with 30 or so other parents. It was lovely, and i took movies on my phone. At the end my girls boy cried because he wanted to come home with ME, he cried and cried, my girl spoke with his teacher and she let him come out of school and home with me and his grandmother. My girl whispered in my ear.....he loves you so much and NEEDS you as his papa, you must be ready, she had tears in her eyes. She then looked me square in the eye and said....i so love you. The boy is now playing with me as i write this, just me and him, his mother had to return to work.
Meet the RIGHT woman, if she has a child and you and the child can bond, it will penetrate her heart even more, as has happened with me.
Gecko? Are you a Brit? My girl does have 2 friends that i know about who are open to an international relationship, especially after witnessing the happiness me and my girl are enjoying.
It is -7 here in West Ukraine, and the snow just keeps on coming!!!
hi there danny boy! privet from kyiv! plenty of snow here too. fantastic actually snowing on christmas day! don't ever remember that happening in the uk!
it's about -5 here, but i'm sure it's going to get colder. more like 12hrv per gbp now i think. seems to have stabalised at least a bit over the last few days.
Danny boy, great post! i think there are alot of envious guys on this forum.
am i Brit? not exactly but thanks for the compliment. :) I'm mostly welsh, irish, and a sprinkling of german. well, 100% american i guess you can say. If your girls friends are on flirt.com.ua (mamba site) then i can give them my profile id so they can check me out.
hey gecko...how are you doing on mamba site? It is great to learn some russian. Haven't been there in a while. Met only one girl there that amounted to anything, plenty of scammer types. Met some russian girls living in US....talk about adaping to new environment quickly......
Nice heartwarming story Dannyboy. Must have been a GREAT feeling you had with the son. Just goes to prove my saying..."love and blood don't have to be related". When I first started my search, I avoided girls with kids, last couple girls that I am interested in each had a child....current one has a year old daughter.
Thanks for showing an interest in my story, and your kind comments.
peteb, no, I have no plans to live here at this stage. We have completed our on-line Marriage Visa application and now just keep logging into visa4uk website and wait for available free date for the interview at British Embassy in Kiev. If and when we get the Visa we will marry in a registry office in the UK to satisfy the Visa requirements, then, about a year later will do the whole church ceremony thing in Ukraine so that my girl feels she truly got married, and also that all her family and friends can attend her day. We will also try to get my girls Ex husband to sign the legal paper allowing her to take the 5yr old boy out of the country, this will prove a problem because Ex hus still loves my girl even though they are devorced, he wants her back, hates hearing about me when son goes to stay with him, so, we'll see how to get around this nearer the time, first stop.......Marriage Visa.
Another thing I would like to mention, if I may is "are they traditional or not" well my experience is YES, they are. My girls parents are in their early 50's and I see it every day where her mother takes care of my girls father, her son (my girls brother) and now also me, serving the mens food before her own, fussing over our coats and scarves when we go out and always making sure we are ok etc.
My girl also does it, and tells me it is "general" as she puts it, a woman MUST always take care of her man. Often she licks her finger then wipes something off my face she has spotted, her mother has started to do it to me too. My girl also often rings me from her work to make sure if I'm going outside to wear plenty of warm clothes. She washes and irons my clothes every couple of days, even though she works very long hours in her local supermarket, and that I tell her I can wash and iron my own clothes. She cooks for me every evening, wonderful Ukrainian dishes, again, even though I tell her not to, and that I am full because her mother has fed me all day. The other night she washed my hair for me, I have never had this done before and didn't ask for it but, my girl got the notion in her head that she wanted to do it for me and that was that, I got pampered for 45mins. All my girls friends say that family, not career or money is the single most important thing for them also and all say they dream of a wonderful man, children and home. They range in age from 23 to 35yrs. I think maybe many teenage girls now in Ukraine are being bombared on TV and the internet of Western images and information and maybe they are changing to a more Western frame of mind, but, gernerally, I believe that UA women of just about all age groups remain fully committed to the idea that life is empty without a good man, a couple of kids and a nice home, and if she has to look for a Western guy to achieve those goals then so be it. And, as Kirkland put it on another thread, they do it all in a mini-skirt.
Sex wise - my girl wants to please me and I have no complaints, she has very quickly picked up on what I like and whenever we can snatch some private time together here at her parents home she goes all out to do just that. And I just cant believe my luck everytime she strips down to her bra & panties, those long legs (she's 5ft 9in) flat stomach, little round butt, flicks her long hair back, looks at me and smiles with that stunning face of hers. These Ukrainian girls are the BOMB.
gecko, today I will find out for you just how serious her friends are about finding a Western guy and what, if any sites they are members of.
Happy to help any guy on here anyway I can, swap contact details, share some photos I have of beautiful Rivne if you've never come here, maybe meet up etc etc.
I think it's a little warmer today, yesterday it hit -10 in the afternoon, nightime was -13.
danny boy, sounds like your girl has similar traits to mine! my gf is certainly sweet, beautiful, caring and intelligent (in any order you like, it just sounded better like that!)
> These Ukrainian girls are the BOMB.
very true! but i've also really grown to love ukraine. i wouldn't move back to the uk for a million dollars... ok... *maybe* if someone offered me a million!
and i completely forgot to say before... "congratulations on getting engaged!"
:-)
enjoy your time in ukraine... don't suppose you're visiting kyiv at all?
Maxirat - thanks, and I think I understand you on that.
Gecko - Ok, my girl has spoken to her 2 friends, they are not memebers of any sites, neither has the internet at home, however, both want to join a dating site that has International men on it, 1 has asked my girl if she will help her load her profile etc. Both did ask my girl if you will be coming to Ukraine?
Pete - My girls eyes lit up when I asked her if she would like a trip to Kiev and meet up with another Englishman and his Ukrainian girlfiend, we are thinking this coming weekend? I would also like to ask you how you support yourself here, just curious?
Danny Boy, this sounds too good to be true, are you making this up? Why is this girl acting like this? From what you write you are not offering her anything other than sex! On the other hand she is providing you with a home, food, family, etc. why? Is it the little boy since you are accepting him and his own father would not? So it is the love for her boy that is driving this relationship? Just be careful once this kid is a teenager he might turn against you and beat you up if you hurt his mammy!!!
This - my fellow forum members highlights the "outer Kiev" women to the "upper class" Kiev ladies.
Get out into these areas. You see - not on sites with no interent at home. REAL homely types that still have their priorities in order etc
"they are not memebers of any sites, neither has the internet at home"
"Both did ask my girl if you will be coming to Ukraine"
"My girls eyes lit up when I asked her if she would like a trip to Kiev "
Seen it myself in Western Ukraine. OK - my wife is from Kiev, but she is so diff to most of her friends.
"Pete - My girls eyes lit up when I asked her if she would like a trip to Kiev and meet up with another Englishman and his Ukrainian girlfiend, we are thinking this coming weekend? I would also like to ask you how you support yourself here, just curious?"
excellent! sounds great. the new year tree in independance square looks pretty cool, i still haven't been to see it! i guess it should still be there?
http://webcam.inter.ua/en/640x480.html
i'm a geeky software engineer so used to work from home anyway. my office is wherever my internet is! getting paid in gbp is handy at the moment as well...
I will be coming to kiev in first week in february. It sounds as if you will be home by then? I was thinking of attending the afa socials that will be going on that first week. Maybe these girls would be interested in attending also. I think for them its free.
gib doe - You ask if I'm making things up - nope, it's all true.
You ask why is my girl acting like this - because she has found a man she loves and can depend on, a man who loves her, and her boy.
You ask what I am offering her - I have come to her 5 times this year, I always bring her and her family little gifts, I always buy her flowers when I'm here when she doesn't expect it. She recently told me that I am the only man (she has only ever had 4 in her life) that actually listens to her. She tells me everything, even about her sometimes irregular periods, and I listen and where possible offer her advice. When I'm in the UK I send her at least 1 sms everyday, we also see each other on Skype most evenings. If you saw us together you would think we are a couple of teenagers, even her parents have commented how wonderful our relationship is, yesterday we had a mini snow fight. This last visit I brought with me an engagement ring, which I placed on her finger on Wednesday 17th Dec (her 29th birthday) in front of her whole family, and I asked her to marry me. Did you read the part on this thread where I stated that I have filled in the UK Marriage Visa Application and that we are just waiting for a free interview date in Kiev at the Embassy to become available?
I assume you are single, and an FSU girl has yet to select you as her life long partner?
And what of the guys here that are far further down the road than I am? Those guys that have actually been married to their FSU women, and have enjoyed many years of a beautiful relationship with them? Is that also "too good to be true" ? Are they liars also?
Maybe you should try to be happy for any guy on here that wades through all the problems associated with finding love in the FSU, support him/them, look to them for tips that may improve your own situation, instead of immediately disbelieving someone who's having success, and offering nothing but sarcasm and perhaps a little inner jealousy, after all, isn't that the purpose of a forum like this?!
danny3777 - thank you, yes, you may have something there.
gecko - please, beware the "socials" I have 2 television programmes I recorded back home just before I left and brought them with me so my girl could watch them, we watched them together the other night, both feature USA & UK guys attending these socials in both Russia and Ukraine, much eye opening, lots of "professional" girls it seems goes to these things for the free food and booze, and any gifts they can get from the Western guys that drool over them, but, many have boyfriends already and do this only as a job. It may not be the case for all girls that attend but, certainly seems to be for many, be careful !