Its almost like you want him to get married so he will quit stealing YOUR girls or so you will have a chance with one.
Lets make a rational comparison. People also date in their home countries, right? (i may be reaching here)
does anyone marry all those they date locally? If you date girls for a few years but don't marry any of them, is it different
somehow than dating in Ukraine or Russia? If one dates a younger girl in his home country is he somehow conning her too?
Ive dated much younger girls in US too. 2 of them less than 26 and met both of them at grocery store. The scenario isnt any different.
we go out to restaurants, cinema and do other fun things guys their age cant afford to do with them. We have fun. Yes, I buy them things
in US too. However, the same scenario happens in Ukraine but everything just costs less. An older girl closer to my age (but less attractive now)
will be any different?
I just don't get why people think the "rules" are different in FSU countries. Do any of you honestly think a Ukrainian girl is any different in these
expectations of a man than a local girl? Since they are poor in your reasoning they cant have similar expectations?
Why is it "buying" if done in Ukraine but not when its done in USA, UK, Canada or Australia?
For me, US girls, more often than not, come with too much baggage, negative influences, they are more materialistic and usually have different values.
In US, guys with younger girls are "sugar daddies" In Ukraine you want to call them sex tourists.
At the end of the day Its mostly just jealousy from those who cant find success. You cannot blame Ukraine or the girls. Most are quite normal
if you understand that the lifestyle and culture is simply different. If you keep striking out then perhaps its time to make a self evaluation
and you will probably find YOU are whats going wrong.
“we go out to restaurants, cinema and do other fun things guys their age cant afford to do with them. We have fun. Yes, I buy them things
in US too.”
Rick,,,, you answered part of your own question!!!! “and do other fun things guys their age cant afford”
Jet thinks he is winning girls with that wonderful personality of his,,, and we ALL know how false that is! He is no different than the average forum nut!
And,,, why isn’t he harassing you for buying gifts?? He needs something to latch onto,,,, and I told him that I bought a pretty girl an expensive gift!
Gift=payment?!! He has a twisted mind!!
“I just don't get why people think the "rules" are different in FSU countries. Do any of you honestly think a Ukrainian girl is any different in these
expectations of a man than a local girl?”
“You cannot blame Ukraine or the girls. Most are quite normal
if you understand that the lifestyle and culture is simply different. “
Rick,,,, you can’t have it both ways!!
“For me, US girls, more often than not, come with too much baggage, negative influences, they are more materialistic and usually have different values. “
It’s true with women of most countries. The biggest item of baggage is usually men!
I’m looking for a girl who doesn’t have a lot of baggage. I don’t need to look for a girl who has never married,,,, I’m well past that,, but I don’t want her to have children from another man. I don’t want,,, “her kids and our kids“! I don’t want the trips for them to visit daddy!
I also don’t want a girl who has been bleeped over by a foreign man. I have seen what it has done to a couple of girls,,, and heard a few other stories. They meet a guy who says he cares for her,,,, and wants to show her,,,, a day or two later,,, the guy is gone and is never heard from again! When this happens a few times,,, they stop caring,,,, and go for the money!! “Why not,,, they are treating us like prostitutes anyway?”
I know of one girl who IS a prostitute in Moscow, I found her online! She had two men pull that just weeks before I arrived. (but also claimed in letters to have never met another man??)
Then there is the girl in Nikolaev, who drank herself flat on the floor. All of the guys before only wanted fun and games. Then freaked when she realized that I was sincere. I’ve told the full story of that night a long time ago,,, and most guys said I was lucky it didn’t work out with her,,,, but I still feel sorry for her,,, and peeved for the reasons it happened!
Now Jet,,, if you think this whole story was aimed at you,,, it wasn’t, but consider this?!!
What is going on with your girl right now?? What do you think her friends and neighbors are saying,,, what is that 28 year old boyfriend saying?? I’d bet he already has spoke with her and asked her out. If she let him back in her life,,,, you/Jet will ALWAYS be a thorn in their side!
If she has rejected him,,, what do you think he will be spreading around the neighborhood?? He wants her and the flat,,,, so he won’t go away very easily!! And if he is spurned,,, he WILL be spreading all kinds of shxt about her. The young girl who “Whored” herself out to a 55 year old foreign man.
It really doesn’t matter to him whether that’s true or not.
By now, you should be old enough to know better.
Just because you can do something,,,, doesn’t mean you should!
Isn’t that what got Bill and Monica in trouble???
Jetmba. coyote has posted on the forum the jewellery he gave 'his girlfriend', of whom is over thirty four years age difference, a $9 necklace and apparently 'she loves them'
I heard about unborn babies too, one or two of them. Then something about a brother,,, and parents that were killed by drunk Americans??? How much of that is true???
I wasn't active in this forum on 7/25/2011 when Looney began the thread about DANNY 24/7, but Looney was just like he is now - constantly attacking danny and someone name "giss".
Read this post from someone named Harvey asking LooneyTunes to tone it down.
"dateobot control - hello? come in. lonelyranger, you put waaaaaaaaaaaay too much effort into this danny thing. and the giss thing too. have you got no other life? after a while it ain't funny no more. I'm starting to lose respect for you. not that I am anyone special, but why not give it a rest for a bit and see what happens.
giss is god's (his own self) gift to Ukrainian women. let him have his fun. eventually he will come away with is tail between his legs. danny has been around a lot longer than you battling with other forum members. wait at least until he and rb grow tired of each other. it's easier to keep up with just two going at it. and it kind of dilutes danny's thought process to have to divide his attention between two. he is much better with one at a time. give him the courtesy of focusing on rb for a while."
THAT was a year and a half ago - and if you look through the DANNY 24/7 thread you can see that the LooneyTune never let up in all that time.
He bickers and attacks others 24/7 and 365 days a year. Is that ALL he can do? Has there never been a time when he was in this forum that he wasn't at war with SOMEONE?
I admit I have been involved in a few fights - but I go a long time where I am not. It appear that LooneyTune has never gone anytime when he wasn't at war with someone.
People like that are impossible to get along with in daily life. And they only use forums like this because people in REAL societal interaction with him would long since have told him to cram it. Obviously THIS is why Looney can't find a relationship anywhere. Even in Ukraine, where dspite his attempts to Wooo women with expensive gifts he considers them to be whores, prostitutes and scammers.
If you didn’t notice, others were also talking about danny never letting up,,, I’m on his list of people to annoy… and he never lets up! You are a very one sided, closed minded person! You have focused on me and have ignored everything danny has done,,,, like starting the war between us! He is your friend and I am not, and you prove to the forum everyday just how ignorant you are !!
It was Ralph who thought I was Dateobot control, after disagreeing with him over a few things, and after I told him that I was in contact with martin,,,, he also turned on me.
“danny has been around a lot longer than you battling with other forum members”
Even he admitted that danny never stops battling people,,, so why can’t you see that?
Has there ever been a time when danny wasn’t at war with me and a handful of others???
Did you notice his shots at nasfan?? Danny is called his wife a whore again!
You called my mother a whore yesterday! Remember, you don’t live half a world away, you should think before you antagonized a person for no other reasons than wanting to be a prick!!
You are a brainless closed minded prick! And a sick dirty old man!
You are beyond help. If I had a nickle for every nasty name you have called someone in this forum, I'd have enough to buy a pair of $590 earrings. And you wonder why you are constantly at war with everyone?
And you don't just go after forum members, but wives and girlfriends too.
You should stay away from the women of Ukraine. They are WAY too good for you.
I said your girl was “possibly” a whore, because you really can’t be sure of her intentions yet. She might be a nice shy girl, or she only met with you for the free meals. It sure wasn’t for your wonderful personality!
“You are beyond help. If I had a nickle for every nasty name you have called someone in this forum”
You make such a statement while calling me “Looney” for weeks??
You are a true hypocrite!!!
Yeah,, I’m not half a world away like danny. If you ever show up here,, you will get the same greeting danny had been promised by several members!
I found this from about 1.5 years ago. It was from a respected member of this forum, he was commenting on me over a battle with someone who speed dates at socials.
Enjoy!!
I've read your postings and it seems to me your definition of success is being a sex tourist. It really doesn't matter to me other than the fact that it ruins for the rest of us who are looking for a wife.
You see, the sex tourist is what I'd figure the typical FSU worries about, much like how western men worry about scammers. Each side has their worries: "Gee, he's taken me out several times. If I sleep with him tonight, will I ever see him again?" "Gee, I've taken her out several times, is she just stringing me along for more free meals from nice restaurant?"
I'm sure in any culture, there's women who are easy to get in bed. Why go all the way to the FSU when you can find that at the local dance club?
Ranger seems to me to be looking for someone to grow old with; he wants to look down in 30 or more years from now and see an old, wrinkled hand in his. Your condom wrapper (if you're smart enough to use one) has been in some land fill somewhere for the same 30 or more years.
Jetmba,,, what is your native language?? It can’t be English!
I said; someone was speed dating at socials! He tried meeting as many as he could during the socials, then to meet as many as he could after. Each one only had just so much time with him,,, and he told them this! Something you wrongly accused me of!!
But since you mentioned it,, let’s compare!?
Tour managers will tell men: Meet as many women as you can. Get contact info from women who interest you. Get the info and move on to the next. Do not leave with any woman during the social,, if a woman wants you to leave with her, she is trying to take you away from meeting other women! Meet with the women after the social(s)!
Speed dating;,,, (actual speed dating) I have never been to one,,,, so I’m going by TV programs, or news! Events are set up in advance. People sit at a table with a number, you are allowed 5 minutes with each person. If you like them,,, you select their number and if they select your number, you are in business.
He tell us that Ukraine is the sex capital of the world and that the typical Ukrainian girl starts having sex at 14. But HE's looking for an untainted girl?????? (Does he look for snow balls in the desert?).
He goes EXCLUSIVELY (and he tells the girls this) to meet 5 girls at a time. Does he even know what "exclusively" means??
He buys a girl $590 earring so that she will see him again. And when he returns and sleeps with her - he doesn't consider that he made a payment to her (the LAST TIME).?!?!?!?!?!
Looney: Ask your girl if she still has the $590 earrings, or if she cashed them in
A GIRL who is your FRIEND - is not the same as a GIRL FRIEND.
A TOURIST who has SEX - is not the same as a SEX TOURIST.
A GIRL FRIEND is NOT just the accidental combination of a GIRL and a FRIEND just because all your little buddies on the playground think so. It means that you have a special relationship with this person that extends much further.
A SEX TOURIST is NOT just the accidental combination of a TOURIST who has SEX just because all your little buddies in the forum think so. It means that you travel to PAY prostitutes for sex, like with children (12 and 13 years old) or for better prices than may be avialble in your country.
YOU pay agencies to set you up with girls, some of whom you admit are being paid, by the agency to show you a good time. What's the difference between paying an agency and paying a madame?
YOU are going where these girls available that might not be available in your country - and you are PAYING them, directly or indirectly, to show you a good time - which might or might not include them sleeping with you.
You SAY you are looking for a wife - but in four trip you have paid a lot of agencies, a lot of managers (madames) to set you up with the girl of your choosing from their lineups.
You have given BIG EXPENSIVE sellable gifts - with the hope of coming back later and reserving that paticular girl. And you have slept with at least one (you admitted).
I have never done anything like that.
The only money I have ever spent was to pay for a big hall and some refreshments, and invitations that ladies can come on their own accord to meet some western men who are serious. In OUR country we have events just like this all the time. They are called Community Dances and they are as wholesome as wheat bread.
I pay for a Community Dance in Ukraine.
YOU pay a madame (manager), with an agency to set you up (even for a girl who will spend a week with you in Kiev) with one of the line-up, from her stable of professional recruited girls, that she makes money off of. You even order them from a catalog. Agency or brothel?
Which one of us is the sex tourist? Clearly YOU are.
Just because even these PAID girls don't actually like you well enough to sleep with you. You still pay. They still have a whole industry designed to sell them to you. And the principal is the same.
Looney: That letter you printed was written by Batman to giss.
Giss went to Romance Socials - but he dated 5 to 7 women per day - talked about spending $15,000 on a trip (I bet he bought a lot of expensive earringsearings).
I date a maxium of FOUR girls the entire TRIP (usually though just two, for the whole trip) and I spend around $3,000 per trip, including hotel (for two or three weeks) and airfare. (NO $590 earrings).
So HIS experience in Romance Socials (and what Batman was commenting on) is ENTIRELY different than mine. Real clever, misleading and devious to suggest he is like me.
But giss was right about YOU when he said; "So you have a horribly negative misogynist who swears all women are thieves, yet amazingly he claims to have ladies lining up to marry him. Oddly he’s still "lonely"
Giss was right on there - All you do is knock the women of Ukraine, you have called them prostitutes, thieves, whores, scammers and a million other names. Yet you claim you want to find a wife there and that they want you.
You are laughable Looney, and make no sense whatsoever.
“Looney: That letter you printed was written by Batman to giss.”
Jet,,, you’ve used their names,,,,,, you should know better than that??!! Perhaps they didn’t want to get involved in your little war?
“So HIS experience in Romance Socials (and what Batman was commenting on) is ENTIRELY different than mine. Real clever, misleading and devious to suggest he is like me. “
I really wasn’t comparing him to you,,,, just the effect of the “Sex Tourist” has on foreign dating,, and how it “ruins” it for honest sincere men.
“Giss was right on there - All you do is knock the women of Ukraine, you have called them prostitutes, thieves, whores, scammers and a million other names. Yet you claim you want to find a wife there and that they want you.”
No,,, you just keep saying I do. What % of the women in FSU are agency girls and romance social regulars??? Let’s just say 5%! Then I dislike 4.99% of Ukrainian/FSU women!!!!
If you want to know a person who knocks all women of Ukraine,,,, then perhaps you better have a long talk with your best forum buddy danny!! For over a year, he continually ridiculed me for having a girl from Ukraine,,,,,, and not a honest, sweet, and whatever girl from Russia!! Then,,, I had to inform him,,,,, that my girl from Ukraine WAS RUSSIAN!!!
"I really wasn’t comparing him to you,,,, just the effect of the “Sex Tourist” has on foreign dating,, and how it “ruins” it for honest sincere men"
Looney: If you hate sex tourists so much then STOP DOING IT!
Stop buying women from agencies - stop giving them the profit motive. Stop buying gifts worth 3 months salary as a prepayment that she will sleep with you NEXT time. And if you CAN'T succeed with women - then leave them alone!
Looney: You need to face reality. NOBODY has ruined it for you. The girls just don't LIKE you. Stop blaming it on people that came before you and think about what you can change about yourself?
Stop WHINING that you can't succeed because of other guys. Whining is ALWAYS pathetic and in your case very harmful. You need to accept the blame yourself. Women just don't LIKE you. (No matter how much you think they should.)