well as good as he cooks im sure he will make a fine wife for her lol. ( that was a joke not a stab in the back for you who cant tell a joke) sounds to me like he is laying some ground work for the start of a relationship. I am sure he will decide what is right for him when the time comes.
When collecting information that "documents proof of having met your fiance(e) within two years" consider information that "factually" places the two of you together first. This means items such as dated photographs, airlines tickets/stubs (proving you boarded) to their country (or for them to the US and your home city), etc.. You should also consider submitting information that validates your relationship which will help the adjudcator understand the scope of your relationship and acts as secondary evidence (photos together, dated emails -edit out personal items first-, etc..).
before I continue relating my daily adventures in Kiev, I thought I would reply to a post - maybe two. smart martin -- I'm pretty damned sure I did not divulge any information about personal experiences with this woman other than sharing with others my daily activities. I know for sure I did not mention intimacy or anything other than having met a wonderful woman. And I shared some of the things we have experienced together. I said I would continue this as a journal of my days here. I said I met the woman I had known for a while -- of course only through emails. No-one has any idea how much I know about this woman. I assure you I know about her life as a child and where she grew up, her education and annecdotal evidence of her travels as a researcher. And much more ---- it does not matter. I don't feel the need to validate our shared knowledge of the other. Yet I have downloaded a hundred photos of her family and life. She knows everything about my family and life. That I shared about a dinner together and a few things... It was just a way to advise some that just going out to dinner and dressing to impress is not necessarily the way. No matter how many "dates" you have with a woman trying to impress her can not come close to spending time being real. There is no better date in the world than sharing a night helping to prepare a meal together. Then just sitting down with a good wine and enjoying a well prepared meal you both helped to prepare. A meal that rivals anything you can find at any expensive restaurant. Gives it a personal touch and shows you are more of a man than someone who comes around just flashing money to impress a wide eyed young beauty. enough of that......
RIN TIN TIN ---- are you a real person or just someone pretending to be an idiot. I certainly hope the latter. Because if you really believe the things you say then you are a sorry person. "I always get the lay" Puuuulease! I always thought of being an international playboy. But I guess I am just a simple man who only ever wanted to live a life with a good woman to share a life and happiness of experiencing life's wonders. Go fuck yourself.
Day 8
this will be a blur..
head out looking for extra cam battery... spend time walking -- imagine that -- find a the local sony store, they don't have the battery I need--- if you come to Kiev, make sure you have extra batteries and all electronic supplies you need. Chances are you won't find what you need here.
Cruise the area near center square. Big celebration going on. Kiev Day. I was talked into ice cream rather than a beer. Then in the middle of being part of the Kiev day celebration, "Let's go to Dnibro," she says. Pack a lunch of smoked salmon, a smoked sausage stick, cheese, kiwi, macadamia nuts, fresh cherries (don't care for strwberries) bread etc. and a half bottle of chardoany and beugolais. Hit the ferry. Have a nice time. Take lots of pics. After decide to go to obriens -- live band danced our asses off... went to sleep.
day 9;
wake up with hangover -- someone bought shots at obriens last night ---:) have great video of acting like nuts on dance floor... realize have to meet driver at 9 AM for trip to Chernobyl. Sitting in back of van enjoying every bump and hole in the road with hangover... seriously if you come here I recommend the trip to chernobyl.. unless you are just a pussy hunter. The best meal I had by far was the lunch/dinner they served at the end of the tour. 5 course russian meal. rivals any restaurant anywhere. And I challenge anyone to dispute this fact. I would place this meal at 5 stars and I am very critical of restaurants.
Get back to apt 630. Honey needs to go to train station to purchase ticket back to home. Get cab and go---have cab wait. End up at De Ja Vue. Skeptical but cool place ---- great food and service is very good. I was very surprised. Band started at 9. after third course showed our dancing skills again. night went on. got back to apt. Sleeping beauty is dreaming about the seven dwarfs and I am typing this crap. Dejavue - oringinal bill 875uah. got mystery discount to 750... maybe they liked my dancing... I suggested to sing a song with band -- the mercedes band -- guy was cool except they wanted me to pay 1550 to sing with band. I almost wanted to do it to show up this singer, but honey refused to let me spend the cash -- sang to her later..really nothing to report than another day in the life...
Julian35dude,
What is the endgame? Will you ask SB to marry? Will you ask if she will apply for K-1 visa? You are American? I ask because smart?Martin will post
something about K-1 assumption to be the same as the rest of the world. Good luck!!
reflecting on a few things... for instance, why "A River Runs Through It" as a movie to watch?? Try to eplain to someone who doesn't have a clue that you will be spending 8 days fly fishing in Montana in four weeks. Perfect logic for her to see the scenery, and share a passion of mine with her. Plus it is a good story. And watch a movie in English with English subtitles -- brilliant!
As for buying her a nice present - She has a gold chain around her neck. When I took her to jewelry store to get a pendant she got almost pissed ---- 'Do not waste money on such things.'
She made a profound statement last night. During the tour of Chernobly - they actually get you to within 150 meters of the unit that made history - she claime to have understood everything Yuri was saying. He was speaking English with his heavy Ukraine accent. I struggled to understande at times, yet she claims to have understood him. ?????? Quite profound.
What is the end game? Well now we have to discuss logistics of meeting again. She has to work out 'time' to be available. She still has a job and has to support herself and I think helps with family. We spent more time just getting to know one another and enjoying a "vacation" together. Even it it was only five total days. I feel that was more important than talking business the whole time but we touched on a few ideas. Never-the-less we have a lot to talk about.
One thing about the trip to Chernobyl. As you leave Kiev you go back in time. Old ladies tending to gardens dressed like homeless people in the city - more or less. It is a place where it seems time stands still. I saw one old lady with a stick chasing a cow out of a creek. Long skirt, leggings scarf over head and what looked like heavy brown sweater. It's about 75 degrees outside and I don't see a dwelling for miles. I'm sitting in the back of this van whining because the air conditioner doesn't work. gotta run
Julian - in response to your post starting "Day 8" (and this applies to all others around the world, ESPECIALLY Americans!) - "kiwi" is the national bird of New Zealand. It is fuly protected with horrendous penalties for anyone (apart from our Department of Conservation staff) who dares do anything more than say "what a strange-looking creature!" when they see it in a zoo. So please NEVER talk about eating "kiwi" when you mean "kiwifruit!"
Meanwhile, I'm enjoying your story, but I do wonder what you've been smoking while typing some of these posts. Are you SURE that English is your first language? Good luck with Miss Russia/Sleeping Beauty.
to be sure the GFY was not aimed at you martin, but this guy who always gets the lay, sounds like this person is not at all interested in a serious relationship with any female --- I dress to impress too. Myself - I look in the mirror everyday and do the fonzie 'aye'. Or those familiar with silence of the lambs, " I would fuck me"
jest a little humor there.
Off to the Lavra Perchesk. I'm no longer searching for a woman since May 28th. Just being a tourist and having a hell of a time. Lena prepared breakfaast today. Didn't get out of bed until almost noon. Call it brunch -- smorgasboard of salmon,fruit, barely hard boiled eggs,fresh squoze grapefruit juice - my contribution. Introduced her to Lynyrd Skynyrd today. Sitting down to breakfast with "I know A Little..."
One thing I might suggest is to bring along a part of yourself. For me, I have a wide variety of musical tastes. I brought Blue Grass -- old stuff Kentucky Colonels, Johnny Cash at Folesom, rock and roll of different decades. If anyone has ever heard of 'Little Charlie and the Nightcats' I will personally meet you and buy the first three rounds. Right now I am playing Vivaldi's Four Seasons.
She is done primping -- time to go, later
aucklander -- I also have noted serious flaws in my spelling and word usage. But I know that I have typred correctly and still it comes up different. It is interesting that the difference between kiwifruit and the magnificent bird is just a laziness to say the whole word. By the way -- for you Americans -- the kiwi shoe polish factory is ten minutes from my house.
Day 10:
Woke up late -- or just stayed in bed long. Had breakfast and headed to Lavra. Took another shitload of photos. Didn't take the guided tour this time. And I am pissed at SB for being so freaking honest. ....;';';' Another 50 because we had cameras. When I went there a week ago with Miss Universe we didn't pay a camera fee. Then we head for the caves. SB argues with me about the merits of getting a candle. Part way into it I was ready to give her the "One of these days Alice, one of these days!!" Not as good a time at the monestary as with Miss U. And just so you know, this is the only place in Kiev that does not sell beer, as far as I know. I thought I would try a "hotdog" just to see what I got. It was actually a hotdog, with a few local differences. Went to Russian 'we are the greates power in the world' museum. It was closed but on the grounds were other interesting sites. Took a shit load of photos of WWI and WWII tanks and military craft. Had to piss and found WC. For the first time in Kiev I thought I was in some off mainstream location in france. Typical European shitters. Stand up and pray troughs. Decided to cross street to wash hands and have a beer. Neat place. cccp or whatever ---- don't go there unless you have mucho dinero. Saw a couple guys well into their sixties with these two SMOKIN HOT twenty year olds. The Beatles may be wrong. You can buy love. The place reeked of money people. If you want to impress a younger lady, this could be a place on your agenda. Rich man, smokin hot Ukrainien girl. And I do mean girl. But if I had millions .......... why not? God bless the man who can buy a hot young broad. Figure she only has to play the game for a decade or so. Good retirement plan. By the time she is forty, he will be gone and she will have the life. leave for jfk in 10 hours. Hate to leave. Maybe my lottery ticket hit while I was away.
I just checked the clock. 'Lena is on the train heading east with a basket of flowers from the river trip and an odd number of peache roses and a very broad smile.
Day 11
Woke and waiting for driver to airport-- took walk to mickey Ds for an all American breakfast. Place is closed. One major difference between Kiev and big US cities is that the place doesn't open until 7 or 8. As I was in a cab last night I thought of an idea '''' taxi driver olympics'''' some of these guys are awesome, they put nyc cabbies to shame,,, the speed limit in Kiev is however fast you can go until the next redlight. In Pakistan the "cab" drivers are nuts. I'd have to give the edge to Europeans over Americans for cab drivers. But for just average people... America wins hands down. I had thought about renting a car next trip. Thinking probably not a good idea. Driving in Kiev during traffic time is like leaving the parking lot after a Flyers game everywhere.
One thing to be pretty positive about should you decide to search for a Ukranian/Russian lady via internet. Do not expect them to look exactly like they do in photos. You may be in for a letdown. However, Miss Universe did a good job of looking fabulous every day - well for the 4 days she dominated my time anyway. Others I met did not have that professionally made up look as they did in the photos. There is a difference between the over 30 and under 30 as far as being able to maitain that storebought look. The older ones went to a lot of trouble (methinks) to look good in the pics.
So what sort of ages are you girls you met with ?. Also I had a look at KC website - didn't see a single stand-out beauty of the sort you would see in fanconi's (odessa) on a friday night, certainly no one who fitted your "miss universe" description :-).
dmc - "didn't see a single stand-out beauty of the sort" -- there was at least one.
These are real ladies -for the most part. It was my first contact into the world of dating across the water. The real beauties were on elena's. But if anyone wishes to meet a good lady - I thought this is what it is about - try kc. Just be ready for a very strange experience. A big mistake I made was trying to overlap kc and em. It just doesn't work because kc plans your days for you. And the second day I wanted to be in control. There were conflicts right from the start and I told them no more. If I had arrived on planned day things probably would have been different. Another mistake I made was going there and not being as prepared as I should have been. I have to take time from work when they let me so I went when I had the chance.
Actually the very first experience I had was with RW Globe. I didn't even provide any information about myself and before I knew it, this very hot looking twenty something - or someone pretending to be her - sent me a message, shortly after there was another one. So I just ignored them all.
I don't feel like spending three years sifting through the assortment of real young beauties to find one that is actually worthy. I have learned over the years that looks alone don't mean diddly. I prefer the girl next door look, classic pretty. Great body is a must though.
ages, 24, 28, 34, 38, 42 all from kc- this was a fact finding mission from the beginning. I dismissed the 24 yr old because she wanted kids and I do not -- that pretty much rules out most of the young ones. I met a lady from em that wants to have kids - and we both knew we would only meet as friends and she agreed to share with me some things about the dating scene. By the time we parted she told me she reconsidered and would be okay not having children to be with me. "... I am the catch" from someone else. But I wouldn't allow it. She is a 30 yr old. My only goal is to find someone who is attractive+ , smart, and is willing to participate in the activities I do. The 42 yr old I met briefly was a classy lady-- but when I started mentioning some things she said she was too old for that sort of stuff. ????? An old lady before her time. Great ass though. And so it goes. There are still three ladies that are still emailing me wanting to know the scoop. All are way above average. 2 could be runway models. No I am conflicted because I got along so wwell with one that it ust doesn't matter. But there are still questions there.
So Texasdude, am I going to ask her to marry me? Would you ask someone you have only spent five days with to marry you? We had a great time together. We arre planning to meet in the future. Neither of us know yet. I like her but I am not in love yet.
trip home:
Got to airport in Kiev, changed planes in Moscow -- wow! The local talent at the airport there!!!
Plane ride home hmmm. Imagine if you will college has just ended, many of the girls are heading to the states for summer jobs at resorts and beach towns. Think of it as a take out order of young russian ladies (the variety pack). Many hot young things heading to America for a buck-two-eighty an hour summer job. And does one of them get a seat next to me??? Noooooooo, I get to sit next to Helga. I think Helga was ready to do the under the airline blanket happy ending with me though. She was providing input as I was editing some photos. Helga was one who on a late Saturday night just after last call and no-one you know is around... And just the right amount of beer.
Half way through the flight I am chatting up a few people and the subject of "are you married" comes up. This lady wants to know if I don't want to be married and I inform that yes, I would prefer to be married. She suddenly turns into match maker and starts cruising the plane and bringing young girls back to meet me --- I shit you not!!! She was actually going up the aisle and looks at me points to a lady and if I nod okay, she talks to her for a minute and next thing you know here they come and she introduces me. This 22 yr old -- not the beautiest of beauties (but no alcohol required) with a body, oh my god -- I told her she was too young. But she begs to differ with me. She was truly willing to go the distance with me. ??? Un-fucking-real! And another one 22 - gives me her email and asks for my number and email. And she is a natural beauty from head to toe. I just wanted to get her a membership in the mile high club right then and there. This can't really be happening. And so on... I could have done just as good taking round trip flights back and forth to Moscow this past week intercepting the 'young ones' on the way to summer jobs. And never leaving the terminal! Could have saved a lot of money. And the flight attendants were suppoting my cause too!! It was just unreal. Too bad I think of these girls as someone's daughter. If I was an unscupulous man-pig with no morals I could be screwing many sweet young things. Not my style.
Flight landed at 2PM - early. Six hours later home. Awake for 23 hours. Just had to tell the airplane experience before I forgot the details.
Trip is over.
to those requesting photos: to be sure, it is a shame I lost - I think it was picked by the cab driver - my camera before I donwloaded the three hundred or so I took. The ones from Lena's camera are not as good quality. And the ones from my other camera I have not viewed. The only photos I send will be of the sights of Kiev. No picutres of lady(s) and me. It would not be fair to her or others. It certainly would be in bad taste. I joke a lot but I am a true gentleman. So if you want a photo tour of Kiev, I will be glad to send photos.
btw - the things that I said happened on the plane ride actually happened.