probably the best place is Switzerland, Zurich is very cool as a romantic place, paddle boat, warm lake, hotels around edge, beautiful mountain walks, cafes at top of mountains everywhere only access is by foot or helicopters plus old homesteads open for coffees and cheese cakes on walk ways, its clean beautiful place with lots of good chocolate..
not Ukraine or Russian,, your cousin would more then likely get pissed off with her hubby's roaming eyes then possible divorce, family dramas and lastly forever women metal issues,, all from a silly honeymoon in the land of beautiful girls..
I think he meant 'mental'................. There many good websites and magazines to give you ideas and contact info for travel. What does this have to do with dating women from north america? I mean russia?
If the cousin is already married, shouldn't they be spending their honeymoon now?
What's a cousin sister anyway?
Incidently; as alluded to above..I read recently that NZ is indeed up there with the most desirable places to live.
Apparently even a local game of cricket can have an extraordinary vista for a backdrop.
Don't think Thailand. Google Thailand News. Bankok as well as 23 other provinces are in curfew because of anti government protests. Buildings are on fire, 13 are killed and 88 wounded in Bankok in the worst political violence in 20 years.
...where I've regularly and consistently argued in defense of people in such positions. I've also stated that I in fact work with such people, and in doing so I choose to live in one of the UK's most deprived areas just so that I CAN work with such people. You state that I am "safe, secure and ignorant", when in fact I live and work among regular drug users, prostitutes and worse (and believe me, worse exists). It's a dangerous job, but I do it to help people.
What do you do?
For your information, I also now work with these people in Mariupol:
...who run one of the biggest orphanages in Ukraine, and who deal with drug-addicted and ex-prostitute children. I've been to work with them once and am going again in July. I'm also starting an exchange program for them for rehabilitated kids to travel abroad and I also now generate international financial support for them.
What have you done in your time in the FSU?
Fifteen years ago, I was part of a team that brought 40 children from Chernobyl to the UK for a holiday. Just a few weeks in the UK was estimated to extend their life span considerably.
Tell me Dan, what marvelous things have you been doing with your life to stand in a position to cast aspersions on me? According to you, apparently I have "no idea". Care to elaborate on that?
Finally, for your information, while I don't work with Thai prostitution support groups myself, I have contacts there and am obviously far more aware of what goes on there than you, given your statements. Before you go making statements about how it all works, perhaps you should look at how much trafficking of women from Thailand goes through Cambodia, ending in China, Saudi Arabia and Africa. You may also want to research the organised peadophile holidays there, along with the level of kidnapping that happens there and across Europe for this very reason. You may not see it all at the Soi Cowboy, but you're fooling yourself if you think it isn't going on.
I could go on, I really could, but what's the point? You're an idiot who thinks he knows a lot more than he does.
actually Aucklander i was very surprised with Switzerland, i liked their style, those cafes on top of real mountains with kiwi jandal access or mountain boots for any other worldly person was just to bloody cool, i wonder how many cider filled persons slid off into chamois country on descent's,, really just to cool and were very seriuos climbs if you don't mind using those things called legs.
i wondered why we don't have the same here(ohh yeah easy answered "government)
yes you are right:) one tends to take "home" for granted..
that's whats cool about having visitors here, you get to see it all again, and watch their eyes knowing what it did to your own..
yes Ralph you got me,, it reminds me of a question i got in Russia and Ukraine more then once "whats it like to live in an uneducated country,, this included Aussie:)
And you know this how? I've asked you questions as to how you're involved in this situation, fixing it or otherwise. I'm waiting for an answer.
I've also challenged you to tell me where I've condemned prostitutes, which you've also failed to do.
Please add to this showing me anywhere where I've condemned Thailand for the sex trade (legal or otherwise), or have suggested that anyone doesn't go there.
Come on, back up your accusations. I'm sure we're all waiting for your justification.
(BTW, Women are trafficked from all over FSU, not just Russia. Also for your information, the trend is for FSU trafficking to go to Europe, largely through Odessa and Germany. While some do end up in the east, there's a LOT of Thai trafficking that ends up there. I can back up my claims with varifiable sources and data. Can you?)
"people like muzzy have no idea why they are prostitutes and condem them which is unfair comming from some one who is safe, secure, ignorant and whose stomach is full"
I've challenged you more than once to justify this statement, you've failed to do so. Once more I'll challenge you in front of everyone here. Justify this statement or retract it.
With regards to your quoting me above, I did say that Malaysia is like Thailand without the sex trade (making particular reference to Penang). This is simply a true statement. Where have I said in that statement that Thailand having a sex trade is justification for not going there, or is in any way a criticism of prostitutes?
Come on Daniel - you're still talking crap without backing it up. I (and I'm sure others by now) am waiting for you to back up your accusations.
We'll get onto the factual accuracy of your claims later, first of all, what unjustified statements have I made about you with no back up? Once again, an accusation with no justification. Is this all you can do?
Still waiting for you to back up what you say.
For your information, as I've already explained, my sleeves are rolled up and hands in the dirt working in many situations like Thailand, and through the colleagues I work closely with, even in Thailand itself. Your two statements contradict each other - you're surprised at what I do, but you still think I need to 'get my hands dirty'? Do you even make sense to yourself?
You're right that Malaysia is a receiving country, but then so is the UK, and indeed Australia. In fact, CATW (that's the Coalition Against Trafficking Women, a knowledgeable organisation in the field for those who don't know - people like you) 300 Thai women are trafficked there every year, with Sydney being a main destination. Do you want me to tell you how many women are trafficked between Thailand and China according to them and other organisations, or do you still want to stick to your story that this doesn't happen?
Tell you what, I won't wait for your answer...
"A 12-year-old girl from the Zheijang region was sold for US$40,000 to a trafficker. She was taken to Bangkok, Thailand for "instruction" in prostitution. Authorities found the girl in Italy. Her destination was the sex industry in Miami, Florida, USA. ("Pedophilia ring uncovered in Italy," USA Today, Nov 1997)"
That's one example, this one from the CATW web site. Feel free to research yourself.
Receiving countries are everywhere, however Thailand is both a major source and hub, feeding all destination nations. If you read the original post, you'll note the question was about places to go for a nice holiday. Although I'm quite aware that the sex trade happens in Malaysia among other countries, it isn't as openly integrated into the public face of the holiday experience as it often is in Thailand. The fact that even the visible prostitution masks the far worse exploitation and slavery going on behind the scenes, doesn't make the fact that gogo dancing, lady boys and street prostitutes don't exactly make for a 'family environment'. If you disagree, fine, that's your right, but don't go throwing silly accusations about people's motives and characters which you're clearly unable to back up, and which only serve to expose your own ignorance.
Still waiting for that back up.
Maybe you do work in this area yourself, maybe not. I've been on this forum for a year and I've never seen any posts from you about any 'good' works you do in this or any other area. I have, however, seen you insult, harass and wind up every other member of this forum, whether they talked to you or not. I don't know who started it between you and Martin, or you and Nasfan, and I don't care. You've started fights where none exist with pretty much every member here, continued them onto other threads about completely different subjects, and have openly ridiculed and tried to give bad information to newcomers for nothing but your own amusement. How am I (or anyone) to believe that you have a single positive intention in you? Where's the evidence of it? Anywhere? I tell you what - you give me ONE example of where you've "put lots of facts about what you do and your life on this forum", and I'll give you TEN examples of where you've needlessly attacked or insulted someone without justification or provocation.
You even laugh at cancer. Do I need to say any more?
Just so everyone's aware, I just received this from Daniel. I believe in keeping things in the open, so I won't tolerate 'private' insults, accusations or threats such as this:
"you are a liar word twister just llike nasfan and martin . i never have laughed about cancer .
martin put pictures of my irina as a shemale on the net one week after she died .. i have been accused of being all ,child molester drug loard ect. and every person who has attacked me insulted me i will say anything i please about them ... it bad luck for you all . i will not be leaving this forum until i have finnished what has been started with one inparticular person . and his followers supporters and friends i will also say anything i like and continue to say it .... there are people here ragingbull durak kiwi jetmba adam texas land of oz colin ect. who have never said anything bad to me and i have never attacked them in any way.as far as newbies with there stupid questions yes i enjoy giving them a stupid answer . mabey that helps them see how stupid they actually are . thats my choice if i want to do this nothing to do with you .
martin and nas fan sent police to my home , nasfan has all my details and im very easy to find on google but has he come back to bust my ass for lying like he said he would .... no ...becouse he cant
i was here for one week and commented that martin was a story teller and had no wife ....from that time i copped it from the pack of dogs ..... but i was correct and it came out in the end .
im not a god lover muzzy i wont turn a cheak , i will just smash you in the face ...but this is forum so i will just continue to write abuse to the ones that abuse me or abused my partrner ..... simple "
Just to answer those points:
1: Whatever Martin did was between you and him. For your information, I don't condone it, but then I never have, have I? Have I Danny? When have I ever spoken in support of his or Nasfans actions, or given indication that I do support them? When? Where?
2: When have I accused you of being a child molester, or any of the other things you mentioned? When? Where?
3: The fact that you admit to attacking new members for no reason says just about everything that needs to be said about your character.
4: My work address is on my website, www.prescotoasis.org. If ever you feel like following up on that threat to "smash me in the face", feel free to look me up. Given where I live, though, I suggest coming tooled up if you want to live long enough to actually find my building. FYI, handguns go for around £50 on my estate, so you shouldn't have a problem getting hold of one. When you get here, ask any 15 year old and they'll be able to point you to a local dealer. Alternatively, baseball bats and kitchen knives are popular weapons.
Nevertheless, I'm still waiting for where I've condemned prostitutes in Thailand or anywhere else, as you've said I do (which is how I believe this argument started)
With regards to what's happened between you, Martin and nasfan, I'll answer you via PM. If you want to publish what I say yourself, feel free.
I just tried to send this PM to Dan, but apparently I'm not allowed to. I'm guessing he's blocked me - here it is below instead:
"Just for your information, I've never supported nasfan or martin in your constant disputes. I won't challenge you to 'prove' me wrong in this, but feel free to look through the forum for your self if you want to. I haven't taken sides in that, as it started before I got here, and I don't like to comment on things I clearly know nothing about.
For the record, though, I saw martins site, and it nearly made me sick. I found it dispicable and unjustifiable, and I don't see how any right thinking person could see it otherwise.
Having said that, you just told me that in your first week on this site, you insulted someone and called them a liar. Why did you do that - just out of interest? Not having a go, just curious as to why you'd feel so strongly about a complete stranger that you'd want to have a go like that? I'm not saying it justified anyone insulting your deceased wife (how could anything justify that?), but when I saw that site after first joining the forum, I started looking back through old posts to see who'd started this fight. From what I can see, neither side is innocent, and you've all three acted childishly. That's just my two cents, though. Like I said before, I choose not to be involved (even though you think I'm like martin and nasfan)
What I don't understand, though - and perhaps you can help me out with this - is why this means you have to lash out at so many other people? I must admit that when I first read the exchanges between you and the other two, I actually felt sorry for you, as it seemed like you were getting 'ganged up' on, with an insulting website that was obviously way below the belt. With every day on the forum, though, I saw you strike out at more people, and I started to change my mind.
Finally, when you decided to have a pop at me (about flowers? I mean seriously - flowers? wtf?) when I'd hardly ever even spoken to you on the site, I decided that you're just an inherently nasty person. What else am I supposed to think?
Was I wrong? The evidence I see every day says I'm not. I've been wrong about many things before, and I'll no doubt be wrong lots more in the future, but I just don't see the evidence that you're the victim here. If I'm wrong, please tell me - help me out. I don't like to think badly of people, but you really make it hard for me not to.
I don't back down when someone has a go at me, so you'll find that insults and threats are not only uncalled for, but they have no effect on me. If you want to keep doing it, feel free. If you want to keep arguing with me, feel free. I have no desire to argue with you, but I wont run away either. For my part, I'll disagree with you when I think it's appropriate, but I choose to do so with an amount of decency, and without uncalled for accusations, insults or threats. If I overstep the mark, I invite you to tell me - not because I'm challenging you to 'prove me wrong', but because I actually want to know. If you show me where I'm out of line, you'll actually get an apology from me.
You might not believe this, but I actually wish you well. I don't do grudges - life's too short. If you want to disagree with me about Thailand, go ahead - everyone's entitled to an opinion, and you may even be right on some things. But when you start questioning people's characters or motives, you demean yourself, not them. I won't insult you, and I won't make false accusations. I can promise that I'll never insult your wife, and never support anyone who would, but it doesn't mean I'll agree with you on everything or back down if you attack me. If that means you hate me, or think I'm in any way connected to nasfan or martin, then you go ahead. I just don't know where you get that idea from.
About the cancer thing - I saw you comment in a negative way on someone having chemo - is that not laughing at cancer? If I'm wrong, tell me."
First of all Danny you are a damned liar. I never sent a cop to your place. I was contacted by a cop from Australia regarding your bullshit which I replied to him I don't wish to prosecute a moron who just runs his big mouth constantly.Sent him a copy of Indiana Law and said I would deal with you if you showed up. So your ass is busted for lying again.If you like I can post the email here I wrote back to the cop who contacted me. So again you lie and distort which is common place from a loudmouth like you.
I mean seriously who supposedly had someone looking for me in the States. It was you. I don't intimidate nor do I worry about assholes like you. I'm not hard to find hell I'm in the phone book but you're too stupid to be able to read. You've insulted a multitude of people on this forum Jetmba included which is another of your lies.
Also Muzzy and I have communicated very little so again you distort another truth. You and the other faggot here have said you communicated with my children. Well I don't have children plural asshole and you don't want to even start screwing with her because her husband is a cop, so are you getting the picture now asshole? You're a man with a paper ass and a big mouth.
Don't forget Beemer. He has also insulted his wife. They have ganged up on him. At least one of them do not believe he had a wife to begin with. Whether it is made up or not, and there's no way to know for sure, I don't believe that or cancer is a joking matter.
I'm the guy had cancer. It's gone for now as of my last check up last Friday but I'm not even (evern in idiot speak) from the original diagnosis.
Don't hold your breathe waiting for an apology or any data backing up any claims--he doesn't have the stones to apologze and I'm sure whatever he said was a lie so there's not data to produce.
Severla years ago, the village idiot claimed I had harassed the ladies of the salon. I produced ALL (2) PM's to them and the Village Idiot couldn't produce the so called harassment. (It didn't exist so of course there was nothing to produce)
Upon review, I found certain spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors common to the Village Idiot in the two PM's to me from the salon. "Duh, we might've left the account open and Daniel might've used it.", or something similar I recall from another thread which I won't bother to find.
Don't worry, I'm not really that upset about the Idiot's cancer comments but here's the larger issue which I suppose I should address to Olga and any other moderators here:
Why do you let him post here? Ban him again and ban him when it's apparent he's back!
Why would any business owner allow a customer who disrupts, insults, abuses, threatens and generally at best makes a pest of himself to the other customers?
BAN HIM PERMANENTLY! [Insert your favoite Sam Kinison scream here.]