I have just read some of the posts in this forum and I have need some help urgently for the dating scam in Ukraine. I am about to visit a girl from Simferopol,Ukraine. I used the MarmeLadies.com site, she gave me her private email from that site's letter. Sice then we communication by email and phone. On the first private email when she reply me is she would like to meet me ASAP. I spoke to her on the first time on phone was very short because she said it was raining and she has to go and pick up her clothes. Then I called the next day, she was saying it is too expensive to call from oversea and ask me don't call too frequent. She is saying this for quite alot of time when every time I call her. Now I have bought a flight ticket to see her, which on 21 July 2010. She also mentioned to me that she will find me a flat which would be cheaper than hotel and is $50/night. I ask her address and she sent me this Lenina31,Efremova2,12,
Since I seen this adrress and doubted and I haven investidating whather this is a scam? So this is why I am here writing this post. Please...please anyone has experience please write to me and give me advice. What is the best ways to prove that she is real? About the flat that she will find for me sounds like scam?
It is a pity you bought the tickets.
Had a look on the site…nothing but photo=shopped bikini babes with bullshit flowery profiles.
Not wanting to take your phone calls? If a girl ever said that to me I’d never call her again. The phone calls cost her nothing.
If you haven’t figured out how to call cheap then they’ll be costing you an arm and a leg.
You say you have her personal email address? Google that too. Email addresses with numbers or other such in them usually means she has more than one.
If you want advice:-
Go to Simferopol on your own and look her up when you get there. Or tell her when you’re coming and if she turns up take it from there.
Book into your own place, you should be able to do this from the internet. A good hotel is 50 USD a night (A local flat would be 50 USD max for the whole week)
Presumably you’ll be flying into Simferopol. There are taxi drivers awaiting. Use one to get you to the hotel. Get one who speaks English and you can use him as a guide. For the rest of your trip.
If you’re good to these guys they be good to you. Don’t be mean and just remember that a 10 dollar tip can make you a useful friend.
Alternatively; cancel the flights to Simferopol and stay in Kiev. (I’m only assuming your flying into Kiev and getting a domestic to Simferopol.
In any case..I’d go anyway. There’s more travelling to Ukraine than meeting young ladies.
If you go with no expectations and just hang loose, take in the sights …who knows what will happen.
Following on from Kirkland consider a beach resort area of Crimea, Sevastopol etc. I've never been but it seems half of FSU flocks to Crimea during the summer and I've heard there are ladies everywhere.
Try contacting (Brit) Chris @ www.travel2sevastopol.com for some tips, indeed some accommodation.
in my time that city had given me way worse scam crap then lugansk or any other through the net..
but it dose seem to have many girls, have traveled through there just to check out ukraiine..
phone calls like this guy had experienced are bad news, i walked from such always.
advise i have given girls searching over there.
always make quick phone calls to guys at their dinner time and such, you may find a wife or girlfriend picking up or, guys will try to make excuses "as any girl" to stop this phone call action when it isnt what it seems.
such lovely cheeky things these girls.
all of us have been burnt one way or the other by them(hopefully small) specially by agencys.
its new meat to the market that keeps them dominantly corrupt.
my bet with him,, he had a run of probably small misfortunes, nothing serious, found the waiting(seems to be a ukraine thing) boring and she was a major disappointment..
booking a trip for one agency girl, that first time trip, done with little knowledge of what games that may come with it, always will have elements of disappointment.
reality is the first trip is a big learning curve and needs to be more of a vacation style trip(relax, site see, probe and learn) then just going on a agency girl visit.
dont advertise you are doing such also when over there(trying agencys) people will think you are a idiot.
with anything that bit of experience changes the whole course of how one would had first gone about searching.
with agencys you need to be a little streetwise using them or you are doomed, they are very much a lottery, specially to new people.
never try to speed things up(just doesn't work) this is a very slow, lot of thought search.
It's strange she's cutting the calls short. Sounds like she either has some guy waiting or she's self conscious about talking English over the phone. You should definitely book the hotel yourself.
Anyways, I think the best way to meet girls in the Ukraine is to go there for a while, hang out, and meet girls naturally out and about during the day or at night in a friendly bar or club. This way you can see what they look like, get to know them on your terms, and escape the whole pre-trip dating scam.
Guys,lets be frank!!! even here on our own back yard the same thing happens.Listen any type of business that charges money for reading or sending letters it should be sufficient to give you chill on your spinal cord.I ttally agree with the gentelman that said,make it a vacation,dont jump on the wagon without knowin who is riding in it.I know there are guys out there which are deserate t have smeone in ther lives but plz fellows be tranquil about your approach.Yes they are beautyfu but the mayoroty of these wman they come from broken homes.Yu need to understad that westerer tend to be very innocent when it mes down to women.It s the whoesome nature f ur countres.You have to have bg time street wisdm to know the differences but in this case ,it really desnt matter,plz think with your main head not the one between your pants.If you really want to marry a easterner then hook up with people frm there herein the staes or wherever your are from and ask ral questions.I can hestly say not all the grls on these sites are scamers but a grwat mayority are,s use commo sense,be prepare t ask intellgent but hdden questions and you shud be able to get the answers you are looking for.Do not be a vctim.Go there enjy he sceery.I garantee you you willfind a beautyful woman there but on your own terms not thers,besdes what do u hv to loose by visiting the Ukrain f yu go as a tourist but on your own,not through agenciesor bs tours,Besidesyou should be aware of the culture of those fuced up countries.Their gvernments are aware of al the scams and if they still exst that means they also get a huge cut from the procceeds. JUST go and have a good time but be heads u and aware of your surroundings.
I advise you this book. It is talking about girls working for dating agencies! check it out.
"she was saying it is too expensive to call from oversea " I can remember a few years ago when this was true. All incoming international calls were billable on Russian and Ukrainian cell phones till the Duma and prospective Ukrainian legislators made a law that all incoming calls to cell phones must be free regardless of origin.
Scammers and pro-daters still try to use this because they don't want to spend much of their time with you unless they are earning money from you.
Looks like this guy may have been victim of the apartment scam. Remember what I said before. Don't let her arrange anything - taxi, apartment, anything. Don't let an agency arrange anything either except for introductions. An agency has no business renting out apartments. There are better venues.
oh come on folks, save your $$$$ reading the same old drama,,,, girl meets boy and just want it to have fun and nothing serious and he also played the game; however, no one wants to lose and all want to win something ...just like a guy that knows which are the girls that falls into the Fun-Zone or throw-back fish. head games are ( )..... yep! needless to say!
but it could be possible that something fun could turn into a marriage proposal!!!
only time will tell....
good luck, be alert, stay positive
nekroposters. But my opinion from all stories that i've read on this forum - that girl is the only one who looks genuine to me. And whe she said calls were expensive, she meant expensive for a guy, she didn't want him to spend a lot.