Like I told my ex when she traded me in on another "stallion" (A real piece of work he was), "Better get the best shopping cart and a good pair of sneakers, it will be your retirement". Still there is nothing funnier than an old white brawd with dirty feet , pushing a shopping cart. Probably the reason I am seeking in the the FSU. They know how tough life can be and without that "Oh my God! How do people live like that attitude". Before the grace of God go I, feeling blessed with the good fortune I have and desire to share with a woman that does not feel entitled.
danny40 "my friend inna lives in chelny .. she like threesoms with two guy and has no problem finding it at home and has no problem finding it in russia" - if this is the proof that there are actually plenty of guys in FSU countries, then here is another one to match it: my cousin told me that a guy she knows was interested in me. When i made a face, she said: "What? he's a great guy, has a wife, a kid and a girlfriend!" :D you see, there are plenty of guys if what you want is to play around, because everyone is cheating! it's not something you suppose or suspect, it's wha you know as a fact and go for it anyway, and the reason is exactly that - there are way too many girls around without a partner... typical muslim paradise :D
Quote from the Wanker - "What, you didn't see any 1's, 2's, 3's, 4's etc, you only saw 9's and/or 10's, or were the 1's etc. amongst the others you were watching?
Please try to give a realistic summary, so you saw a couple of models posing, didn't you see a lot of very ordinary looking ladies also?"
Read (properly) what I wrote and don't be so bloody precious! And no, I don't think I saw any 1s anywhere - even the old babushkas probably rate a 2. Of course I saw some ordinary looking ladies, and I never said anything about them ALL being gorgeous, just that the numbers are pretty striking - and most are making very little effort to improve on nature.
And from Ralph29 - "my guess is that you've never been to california or new york" - sorry, you're wrong. Yes, I appreciate your safari analogy, but I find that a Moscow 6 is probably as good as an 8 at home and I'm actually pretty happy just to drool. I've moved on round the countryside, and now I'm at a hotel where one receptionist rates about a 12, speaks very good English, and has no boyfriend! She smokes, but hell - who cares?
Id have to say there are more beautiful FSU girls than American but I also dont believe it is a dramatic difference but is perceived that way because America has such big problem with Obesity in general.
I will also agree that a FSU lady will start to show age more quickly after 30 compared to American girl and obviously Asian girl but is this such a bad thing as many of us are also older men past 35 ourselves?
Of course looks are important but a 33 year old lady often has so much more to offer intellectually and emotionally than the 19 year old and Ive dated in all ranges.
It depends on what you are looking for. I really understand why divorced American man 35+ wants 20 something FSU girl but this man should know that to bring such a girl home with him has its own risks as well. I was willing to admit to myself that a marriage may only last 5-7 years with such young and immature girl. What you must remember is that after this marriage you will be 5-7 years older again looking for FSU girl and you will not look so pleasant!
I wonder how one gets such statistics - take a survey and ask American men and Russian men if they are cheaters? Perhaps it is because more American men admit to it.
good link Danny and so very true! Thats why I hate the professional pics the girls are made to have on the various dating sites. over the past 3 years of looking for the next wife Ive had that "morning after" experience a couple times. I wouldnt even consider marrying a FSU girl until Ive lived with her there before bringing her home and seeing all her sides and attitudes!
As for the cheating, I wont after Im married, never have (well until I found my now ex wife doing it!). But while Im dating Im considering all offers!
As I've been walking around the Ukraine the last week, I've seen women in all levels. Obviously I tend to look at the better looking ones more, but there are all shapes and sizes. I think think the biggest thing I have noticed was the clothing and how they wear it. There have been several women I noticed that were not perfect but would have stood out in the crowd of similar women back home (US) just because the clothes she wore and how she wore them. The pants are typically tighter, but they fit. Not all squished like many women back home when they wear tight cloths. Then again, my recent ex-gf in the US was a size 0 and still was able to pull off the muffin top more often than not. My general observations have been there seem to be more petite women than back home. My personal preference of the dark hair with blue eyes is a bias, and why I tend to like the Russian/Ukrainian women more. Back home, that is pretty rare.
On a side note, anyone notice that the skinny women have like 0 muscle on them? They are thin enough that curling a can of beans twice should give them some. I personally find lightly muscled women very attractive.
"On a side note, anyone notice that the skinny women have like 0 muscle on them? They are thin enough that curling a can of beans twice should give them some. I personally find lightly muscled women very attractive."
lol, yes, Ive noticed the "stick girls"
Ukrainian girls start wearing that stuff by 12-14 so by the time they are of dating age they know how to "wear" it.
also, please dont say "The Ukraine" simply say "Ukraine" Most folks hate it said with "the" as it implies they belong to or are part of someplace else and are not their own country.
(sorry, Ukrainian heritage coming out:) )
The difference is you have a chance there with the better looking women. The age difference between myself and my wife is 29 years. She is pretty hot. She make quite a few comments to me regarding the lack of fashion sense and presentation of Aussie girls. We just celebrated our second aniversay on the Gold Coast. Then went to Sydney a oouple of weeks ago for her birthday. isnt love wonderful!
The men must have someone to cheat with just as happens in the west. You can safely assume many of these are married.
"On a side note, anyone notice that the skinny women have like 0 muscle on them? They are thin enough that curling a can of beans twice should give them some. I personally find lightly muscled women very attractive."
Would agree with that. Muscle loss is the inevitable long term outcome of low very calorie diets. Makes you realise just how many of those women are well below their "natural" weight. Women generally (there and here) though don't realise that to stay toned long term you need to increase muscle mass.
fashion sense! took the wife for some fall clothes, only really needed a sweater and some shoes for cooler weather. I suggested a couple suits and business attire as something to have on the rack just in case -- no f----ing way. I said you have have to look respectable blah-blah-blah, she said that's why I started my own business, so I didn't have to dress respectable while the owner wears jeans... you want me to dress like an old lady, I am a young woman!!! okay, then dress like a twenty year old fashion model if you must, I have to admit I like the look ;)
My ex-Russian wife used to attend my youngest son's soccer games in high heel shoes... she felt normal with this but all the American women were making fun of her for walking in the grass with them on. It took her about a year to learn and then she bought her first pair of "tennis shoes". She had become Americanized!
Yes I think she now looks silly in tennis shoes in Russia, but I don't think she cares anymore, her parting remark to me was... "I'll never marry again".
don't know how relevant this is mini, last fall I overheard a gal at a department store, because of her accent I asked where she was from. She said Romania. I talked to her about immigration etc. Then I asked what brought her to America. She just said, "Big mistake!" But she stuck around and didn't go back. I could tell she was sincere that she married for the right reason - but it went bad. But damn! She is an awesome looking tall blond with an accent that just goes up the back of your spine ;)
My wife went shopping with a neighbor her second weekend here. She came back with walking shoes of the athletic looking variety. It didn't take her long to realize how 'mericans dress. She did not want to stand out by wearing heels all the time. But still refuses to dress like a typical American. She jokes about the people in walmart and other places how they seem to not care about their appearance.
From my limited experience they (Russia women) slowly become Americanized and start to "dress down" after a year or two. They are not stupid… they look and notice other women around them and they want to "fit in" the American culture. Soon after, they will start to dress like normal American women when they go shopping or go to work. However... when going out on a date with their husband they still dress to the max!
If the girl gets adjusted and feels secure she will "dress down" within a year but you can rest assured her sweatsuit or outfit will look better than everyone else, she will still care about her appearance in public while making attempts to fit in. She will probably want to pick your clothes too which will teach you "diplomacy" ;)
neither girl im dating is so much worried about appearance. They will get dressed up to go out someplace nice but from day to day neither are any different than an American girl.