Hey everyone, I am a pretty young guy (mid 20's), and I have never really found interest in women I have met in the US... So I am looking overseas (Ukraine). I have been Googling around for a month trying to decide if this was really something I wanted to invest my time and future into, and after deciding that I want to get serious about it, I stumbled upon this forum which from what I have found, is most reputable for pointing out scam sites, etc. As a commercial pilot, travel is common for me, so the trips over are not an issue.
So far I understand that Any site affiliated with Anastasiadate.com is a scam.. Correct assumption?
With that, is there a place on this forum that has a list of "approved" sites?
Of all the overseas countries from USA you just happen to choose is Ukraine! ..... Be careful not to trip over all your fellow countrymen en-route and once you arrive in Ukraine because you're all flogging there because you're all too bone idle to apply for a visa to other countries!
Anastasia is a scam, perhaps one in a hundred Anastasia affiliate site(s) may be genuine but best to err on the side of caution!
Whenever you come across a site just Google for the site identity followed by the word 'scam', never pay per letter and avoid the video chat nonsense.
On the contrary Ivor.....problem is NOT the site(s).....it is the lonely down-and-out guy putting in $$$ blindly, in hopes of finding/buying a young(er) girl.....plain and simple. Only difference between home and other country is the $$$ last longer. There is a myth about MOB's....girls dying to leave their country......had to quickly step aside at airport least I get trampled on ;-)) ......all bunch of bull.
Going back a few years .... average salary in Ukraine $300 per month, average salary, as an example, in Uzbekistan $30 per month, where might the young(er), and cheaper, girl, desperate to exit such an existence, be found .... duh, I'm a thick b@stard, I'll head to Ukraine because that's where all the other naive idiots head to that are too bone idle, too tight fisted, to apply/ pay for a visa!
Ivor....as one 'idiot', have done the russia thing and very well may go back soon but I have plenty of friends in Ukraine and Moldova that I can rely on to meet girls or should I say regular girls, the ones that never even crossed their minds about leaving their country.
I picked Ukraine blindly. It was not a preference or a lead, simply a "Well where would I go?" type decision. I have no issues dishing money out to go visit other countries, as I have before. I am an international commercial pilot after all. I DO have problems with women who are gold diggers (I guess that is also a catch 22 in this search) and websites that cost more than my water bill for 3 minutes of use. It is fairly easy to pick out them considering their age preference goes up to thrice their own age. Though I do understand the culture, one can only think... In my personal opinion, it seems to me that the more expensive sites bring in better looking girls, meaning that they are informed of the prices being spent, therefor only rich men can even afford to look. Those are just my thoughts. So another question is, am I too young and a completely unsuitable person for Russian women?
So I made a profile on Anastasia. I received a letter back from somebody, and here is what it said...
Thank you for writing me. My full name is ------ ------. I live in the eastern part of Ukraine in town - Lugansk. I stady at the University of Culture and Arts, my specialty - tv journalist, reporter. I still have study 3 years and I graduated. I was very attracted by the profession, meeting interesting people, the opportunity to grow and learn new things.
I saw your dogs, they are very nice. I love animals, especially dogs.
I learn English, I know this language, but not very well. I also would like getting to know you better.
Could you send me a letter with a photo, where I could see you well.
How did you know russian language? Did you study? What led you to this site?
I whish you a wonderful day.
Hmmm... Seems pretty normal. She responded to most of my questions. But, she asked for photos, with a message, which means I would have to spend extra $$ instead of just adding or changing photos in my profile for free... All part of the scam? Or?
At one point I used bride.ru and was pretty satisfied.
You can use my.mail.ru or mamba.ru for free, but over there you will have to deal with many who do not want to leave their countries. Chose carefully and be upfront (I met my wife in my.mail.ru and I am extremely happy. I found a real diamond).
And one more thing: NEVER USE PAY-PER-LETTER SITES! They are all rip-offs. How many times do we have to say it?
Write letter after letter on pay per letter. They told you the price. You paid it. Is this a rip off?
You can't beat free, as FSULover says. But, you can use a pay per letter site wisely. Ask for her phone number on the very first letter. Usually, they give it to you on the next letter. You get her phone number and call her to get her email, etc. You don't pay per letter anymore. You paid for two letters, about $15. Is it still a rip off?
Yes, I agree. Choose wisely, like profiles with the word "honest" in it, and cities without a bad reputation.
I do not have experience with the many sites talked about here. but if you want to meet someone who is serious and has already made the decision to move for the right man, then EM is the place to find them. of course there are still the same precautions to take - it is not 100% scam proof.
Be prepared for a massive culture shock if you end up doing what 1 of the earlier posters mentioned, and go to Uzbekistan :) I just returned from there, and I have to say that Central Asis will be a whole different world.
Probably safer to stick with Ukraine for your first adventures, but if want to find an extremely beautiful and serious lady, then should start heading for remote Russian cities or Central Asia, eventually.
And I would say Elena's Models as well. Or check out http://loveplanet.ru/, its free, but you will want to find an online translator .... I met my wife on this site when I was teaching English in Tomsk.
I wish I would have saved it on my computer. It was either Kazakhstan or Uzbekistan. When I was searching for a date before one of my trips, I saw a profile from one of the ladies from one of these countries. One sentence said, "I hate traitors." I looked for her profile the next day. She was gone.
dont be down on the guy for choosing Ukraine. I love it here and if my children were grown I would live here already. In fact, Im meeting with a large fast food chain about opening restaurants in Caravan malls as test marketing this week went great! It will give me reason to spend more time here and get paid!!!
Elena's models is the best, hands down! Ive met many girls from there but still you cant discount that there are good local agencies out there, some not even on internet. In Kherson I can think of 5 not on the internet but use the bigger agencies to get clients. I just dont have the need but good girls there!
there are perils to be sure but if you educate yourself on customs, the cities and so on you will be fine.
lots of great girls here. I have apartment on left side of Kiev and I love just living here. If you are dedicated to your search for your second half here and learn at least Russian language then you will have success. Its a numbers game just like America only the possibilities are much better looking!