How does Kiev Tours ltd differ from other companies?
We are the only tour company where our UK manager meets you at the airport, travels to Kiev with you and accompany you during the whole tour. We differ from other companies because every day on the tour our clients have contact with us in person, they don`t have to worry about meals, transport etc 24 hours a day, all is done for them.
He offers 7 different tour itineries, UK manager indicates a United Kingdom resident and not one of the number of managers he claims to have in Ukraine, Ukraine being UA and not UK. Besides that, any Ukrainian manager would need a visa etc. to meet punter(s) at a UK airport.
One manager can only accompany punter(s) for one whole tour itinery at any one time so, out of those offered 7 tour itineries, only one itinery can operate at any one time, what are the chances that two (unknown to each other) punters come along deciding upon the same itinery on the same day/week etc?
A one day tour is priced at £349.00, £349.00 wouldn't even cover his travelling expenses Derby/London airport/Derby, airfares and subsistence etc.
The whole thing is flawed, the one thing that can't be priced, in advance, is an airfare, one doesn't know the price of it until one books it and, particularly at the moment, what with fuel surcharges etc. Nothing will ever come of this wannaboee business and the pimp behind it.
He was bropught up learning business? He can't even spell and punctuate correctly ..... hey guys, would you believe that a pig just flew past my house? :)
Ivortwat you live in the UK.I would like to meet with you .Not a problem for me to travel too you.Or is it the fact that you have no bottle and hide behind a computer spewing out you vile lies and insults to anybody that upsets you.You nit pick try and find faults in my business. I'm not interested in what you think.Send me a meeting place a pub would be OK.As for airfare ive just booked wizz Airlines luton-Kiev for under £80.......Anyway lets meet
Is that what your lawyer, the one that you are paying to consult with, told you to do, to request a meeting with me?
Sorry to disappoint you but I've never mixed with a pimp during my life and that's not going to change anytime soon, I can just imagine explaining to my girlfriend "I have to go out love, I have a meeting with a pimp" :)
Prostitution is, in most countries, illegal, escorting, massage or similar is a grey area that the authorities, in the main, turn a blind eye to.
I was reading one of his tour pages earlier and, as an example, they go to a club at 2200 hours, clearly stay there for a few hours, and upon his return to his apartment a lady arrives to 'massage' him.
Go think about it Kirkland, if necessary go fetch a pen and paper to figure out what a 'massage' is at midnight or after. :)
The whole business is seedy, he wants to meet with me, he doesn't appreciate that he is vermin and shouldn't even be permitted to walk the streets, I might catch something from being near to him, he is the worst of the worst and it seems he is so proud of it!
I wonder what other tour services provides lap dances for their customers?
TinTin you're a joke. You belittle the ladies of Ukraine, but it's okay to provide your customers with lap dances from the ladies of Ukraine.
You've also posted on this site under multiple names. You've even admitted it, but weren't smart enough to realize that you did.
Kirkland, I suggest then you send your lady to work for TinTin as a lap dancer, since it doesn't make her a whore or a degrading occupation. I guess some peoples hypocricy knows little limitation. Demean a culture of women, call them whores and the like, but manipulate them to do the things you detest for your financial gain? That where I come from is called a low life.
Hi guys just got back from another trip to Kiev.Spent time with my new woman and friends.Very interesting trip.Not going to bore you with how good my time was with my new woman off 6 months.But for all newby's Oksana 39 years old slim hot and looks 30 and good in the sack with fantastic personality.Interesting woman with normal life in the crazy city of Kiev.
Well lets start.Before i meet my new Oksana i met a girl called Valentina through Rambler.RU a free site for Russians i have used this site with 100% results for many years.Well not still not liking to put all my eggs in one basket i met up again with Valentina .Shes 27 with a 4 year old child in the john Bull pub in Kiev she brought a friend with her as her English is poor.We talked with the help of her really nice sweet friend.A real miss Innocent looking friend young girl about 22ish not from Kiev.We had lunch and i said if she wanted too we could meet the next day go to a club etc and she told me to phone her.Anyway i had to make other plans so i called her to cancel.She said i could meet her at her work.So i took down the address and the next day at 4pm got a taxi to her work.10 minutes drive outside of Kiev centre to the address,Turned out to be a 3 bed roomed apartment.Valentina greeted me and i went in.Nice 3 bed roomed apartment very big.This was a fucking erotic massage parlour.With Valentina running it for a big boss.Sat in the Kitchen having a coffee with 5 half naked young long legged girls.This crazy situation but also funny as every 5 or 10 minutes the phone rang from Ukraine and Russian men wanting a massage etc.Valentina was the madam.How crazy.My life gets more and more crazy and interesting.Then who walks in hot and sweety?The young girl who help with our meeting in the john bull.That sweet lovely girl.She saw me and hugged her body and keeped reepeing sorry sorry.An other girl said she was ashamed.She like so many other girls they look for work in the big city and the only real money for a woman is in Erotic/Sex worker. Well i love my life and its interesting.The point is Ukraine and Russia sex for a living is a much easyer opstion for the new generation young woman.Believe me or not i dont care.Valentina wants normal realstions with me!!!!!!!!!.Guys a young woman born in Kiev wants a young sucseesful Ukraine guy.Many thousands travel from the countryside for the money sex can earn in Kiev.My advise is look for a woman 30-40 if you feel comfotable in kiev.Or try your luck on a outside of kiev on a devorce e.At the end of the day many guys think i no nothing.I just see and live my life.Good luck.
sad to see that Martin coleman aka ivor ,smart martin is still dressing up in womens clothes,are you still exposing yourself to little children around London too? I am sure the women in ukraine will be impressed
Pathetic. This is a guy who belittles the women of Ukraine for his own sport and he's just like they are. Nothing but a loser and sex tourist. Well I know one thing those women have a place, because it's the only way someone like TinTin could have sex, he has to pay for it.
Nasfan.Its nice to believe that all is good in life.That you have you have a dream of a nice woman in another country because you are old and an underachiever in life and love.Reality mate.Peter String-fellow said I have money I love money.I have woman i have money.This is life.Your an old man.I guess you save up your dollar every year to travel Russia and Ukraine and get your pockets emptied and never get the ride.No fool like an old fool.
Just on the offchance your remark in another thread may have been directed in my direction ... the appropriate way for me to explain is to refer to the answer I provided to a forum member who questioned what my 'beef' was with TT:
My beef with TINTIN is that, a few years ago, he was attacking me, long term, under an identity 'fredricko', then he posted multiple 'Martin' identities over one Easter, I mean he polluted the forum runining it for others, you recall 'Snart Martin' posting long-term? Who do you think that was?
The other month he deliberately waited for my posts so, as quickly as he could, to shadow post attacking RB which caused RB to attack me, TINTIN deliberately stirred that one up, he's behind all these dunny, or similar identities, somewhere in history he PM'd all members badmouthing fiance.com whilst trying to poach fiance.com customers to a competitor site that he was on the payroll of and this is just the parts of his resume that spring to mind ... do I need to continue? :)
He claims to be from a multi million's family yet he's living in a crappy flat/apartment in one of the cheaper housing areas of England, a multi million's family would educate their offspring better than he is clearly educated, only a week(ish) ago he posted that he had been to Ukraine 100's of times on business trips (even if one travelled once a week it would take more than 2 years to achieve just 100 trips) yet when questioned about his seedy business he can only make mention of some forthcoming business, there is no past business.
With the amount of time, and in the particular childish manner, he occupies disrupting this forum does he sound like a serious and occupied businessman?
But my particular beef with him is his track record of using this forum to commercially advertise businesses that he is financially involved in, he has never posted anything constructive here, this is a forum to share advice, experiences etc. but he came here and advertised his prostitution business and, to me, that is a 'no no'.
That's a mistake but his biggest mistake was to irritate me before making this latest mistake, now he's been exposed for what he truly is, a seedy little pimp!
HE'S A TOTAL FAKE!
Have a read of his July 2009 post, that I reposted, where he just happened to find himself in a brothel:
He was supposedly dating the madam whose English is so poor she brought a friend along to interpret, but, during that meeting, she asks him to phone her the next day ..... she's going to learn English by the next day?
Then, in that next day phone conversation, her English has improved whereas she is able to give him the address, probably an unpronouncable address, which TT is able to write down.
A lady in her line of work, that is profiling on dating sites in vain attempt to find a good man, does not invite such men, boyfriends, to her brothel to see her at work, she would keep her work a secret.
He obviously doesn't speak Russian else they wouldn't have needed the interpreter the day before, but armed with this scribbled down address, and unable to speak a single word in Russian, he is able to hail a taxi and explain to the driver where he wants to go!
Put it this way, only a foreign fool would take a taxi by himself in Ukraine, not only for personal safety but because it's 90% certain that one will be taken on a magical mystery tour with the meter running.
This guy is full of bullshit, this scenario he painted would not have happened, with hindsight I'd lay odds that he made contact with these ladies via some seedy online 'Adult' site with a view to paying for sex and/or setting up such a business as he is attempting!
Well, that was certainly an extensive post, however I don't see why you went to so much effort to say all that.
Anything I've "directed in your direction" in another thread was meant for that thread, and was regarding that topic. I've a feeling I know which topic you're referring to, but I suggest that if you take exception to anything I've said in any other thread, that you go there and answer me directly, on point. It's been a while since I said anything on this thread, but I believe the last point I made is that I take NO SIDES in your spat with TT, that I have no interest in arguing with you, that I have as much right to state my opinions as you do, and exactly what my opinion was.
I've made no update since then, and I would think you'd know by now that if I have something to say to you, I'll say it.