FSU women are innocent as hell compared to American women. In the FSU dogs run in packs. In America, women run in packs, thus the similar title. In FSU when they become a problem the packs get culled. Oh, how love the street dogs in the FSU in comparison.
Considering this case, JoeyJoey's silly ex-girlfriend (the one that married a rich guy) and 4re's attracting a scammer with his money, I am convinced that it is actually worse to be wealthy in this game of finding an FSU wife. You will really only attract the worst ones! The ordinary bloke will struggle more to get a wife and she will not look like a supermodel but in the end he will get a woman who cannot possibly want him for his money.
The wealthy's guy wife looks like real slut in her photos.
I am also convinced that is better (or less bad) to end up with a woman who wants you so that you take her to a better country than a greedy bitch. At least many of the ones that want to be brought to the West want to be in a place where women are treated better, where they can get a well paid job and where they will not be discarded for a 19 year old when they reach the age of 35.
Has anyone had the situation where a Ukrainian lady comes to your country due to a business trip? If she is willing to meet with you in your country, how should the date proceed? I have someone on this dating site who says that she may be flying over to this country for a business trip. Since I am not the one going over there, I would not expect to have a date with her in the same manner as being overseas. She is 30 and from Kiev. Her English ability is not fluent, but pretty good, so there should be no need for a translator.
Having read the story, it could be just that - a hit and run. I've been on many carriageways in Ukraine and people drive like maniacs. There are a lot of drunks on the road.
I don't think we need to read something more into this because he was wealthy. In fact it says in the story that she did not know about his wealth until after he died. He was doing what he was supposed to do - conceal his wealth.
That's what I would do. If you have money don't flaunt it. I read recently of a case of an American who went to Samara to meet a woman he met online. She arranged his apartment. Anyway he slept with this woman and he foolishly told her he had $8500 cash on him. She pretended to order food in for them. A few minutes later two thugs showed up and robbed him of his cash as well as an ATM card in which they received further cash.
This guys mistake in the article was waiting on the roadside trying to flag down a cab (at night?) Any restaurant you go to will gladly arrange a taxi for you.
The more I read this the clearer it is this dufus walked out into traffic.
I remember a few years ago I was in Kiev. I was crossing the street at the pedestrian crosswalk. I was half way though and the light changed to yellow. My view was obstructed by a stopped car. This other car came from behind and sped through the intersection. If I had made a dash to the other side I likely would have been hit by the speeding car. Fortunately I made it across.
My point is Russian and Ukrainians are wreckless drivers. They don't care about anyone except themselves.
This comes from Soviet times when only very important people had cars. If you had a car pedestrians had to yield to you. There is still the same mindset in the FSU.
And the very worst thing about attracting an FSU -or any- woman with money is that it still does not guarantee you a good wife. In fact, a woman who wants you for yor money has no principles, by definition, and therefore she will do all those things that a woman without principles does: cheating, lying, squandering your money, mistreating your children, etc.
I heard this story (I may have posted it here before, I forget) about an immature wealthy American man who married the typical model type FSU girl. He lavished her with a fancy lifestyle: expensive holidays, designer clothes, jewels and he bought her a Porsche. Within a year of the marriage she had already been misbehaving on all the things above. She smashed the Porsche, ran away (with another man? I do not remember) and left him with an enormous divorce bill.
Of course a woman like this, who has not done a day's work to buy any of those things, like the car, does not see the value of breaking your back for what you have got so it is meaningless for her, as well as the value of loyalty, love, motherhood, etc.
I met this girl online, who lives in the USA and came to Ukraine to see her mum. She tells me she wants to come and see me while she is in Europe. I told her it was not likely she would get a visa. She told me that she could prove she has an American visa, job, house and residence. I said yes, that way they would not assume she wanted to come and stay here on a holiday trip.
I am waiting for her to tell me if she got the visa. If she says she did, I will be delighted to go and pick her up at the airport and then entertain her here.
My point is: so long as you do not send her any money before she comes, why not let her do it? And if she actually comes and then asks you for money for her expenses, then you know who you are dealing with.
Both your and mine girl should have no trouble with money. Yours going on a business trip, the money comes from her company. Mine has an American salary, she may even earn more than me!
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If it is at the airport in your city, I expect that you would not bother to go and pick her up. "Here is my address, you can come to visit me when you arrive, I will tell you if I can give you some of my time to se you" :-D
I have gotten the standard emails about sudden bad luck happening (my home was destroyed in the fighting, I was fired, my company store burnt down, etc.) She can say what she wants if she encounters a problem on her trips. I have one set response and it is the same one to everyone - I have a relative (on welfare) who keeps asking for money help since her divorce back in the 1980s. I do not send money to a relative (someone who I know), so you cannot expect me to send money to you (someone who I have never met).
Regardless of where the woman is, you go meet her on her ground. That is what a man does. Her home gone is a real possibility, go see and pitch in with a helping hand ,,,, or pick up a gun and stand the line. Or just go down to your local recycle yard and find a toothless bitch in your own hometown. It ain't funny to feign interest in a woman who lives in a "jack-pot" and you haven't the means or guts to make the trip to find a woman that is tested by strife and not just bitching about how men are the enemy. Yeah there are scammers, lots of'em , but you have to go to know for sure.
About the girls who suddenly fall ill (girls of 25 with pneumonia, etc) and who ask me for 'help' (they do not mean send me a coupon for medicines) my set response is:
"Think: what would you do if you did not know me?"
I had one lady who said she lost her job and went to clinic to donate blood and get some money. She attached a photo of her holding a gauze on her arm. While it might be true as to what she did, depending on a complete stranger to help you out is unrealistic. I could say to her, a relative of mine incurred over 1 million dollars in medical bills (which is actually true, by the way), can you help me out, honey?
Well you are supposed to be the one who has more means than her. However, I have told them:_ once you are my wife, or even fiancee, you will see the way I will do anything for you, not now. Like I said in a previous thread I started, it can be true that a lot of bad things happen to them, some of my Facebook friends have told me about sad events: one of them recently lost her father in a car accident, another lives in Donetsk, where she can hear the noise of shelling from home. They do not ask for anything, they just tell their FB friends about their lives and want some sympathy, that is all, they have no reason to lie.
If one of the girls in the dating site told me: my dad has just died in a car accident, I would think: Oh! here we go again!
Actually one has just told m that her granny has just died and I tend to believe her. She told me that her funeral costs were high and she is short of money though....
I just recently talked to one lady in Ukraine who was feeling sad and mentioned about her friend's mother had just died and she attended the funeral. She asked me about how funerals were held in the USA and what rituals are followed. I recently had to arrange a funeral service for a relative and told her what it involved. I gave her the entire list of things that usually are associated with funerals and how much it costs. She was outraged about how high the costs were and how grieving people are taken advantage of during this difficult time. She also asked me about my feelings about death. I gave her my candid opinion on the subject.
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