I am a newbie and am using Hot Russian Brides.com, it seems too good to be true but I am a younger guy so I'm not sure. Has anybody had experience with this site and if so what kind? A couple of girls from the South want to meet me in Odessa and say taxi is the best way...gonna cost hundreds(one from Kherson, one from Mariupol) - sounds dodgy? I am going to suggest catch a bus. Any thoughts? Cheers.
I have met girls from that site. It's a total rip off. "Too good to be true" is exactly what it is. They will rip you off for everything from dinner, apartments, down to even using their particular taxi.
I joined that site months before i stumbled across this forum or even bothered looking into the site, the history, the "word on the street" and woeful reputation.
Obviously within a few days it was clear that a shocking % of the girls were frauds etc.
I'll take it a step further. I was chatting with one girl (no camera) and it was clear she was not the person chatting me. So I led on that i knew she used a translator. Eventually, the translator and I really started talking. And after a week, the translator was sending me pics of HER lol. She gave me her full name and i contacted her off the site. She told me "many girls on here are like the girl i work for: they come in and smile while i write once a week, then i continue chatting and writing letters to men for her even though she's nowhere to be found and is off living her life."
She also told me many profiles are created and while the woman do exist, men are usually writing for them if you are lucky, if not, it's just translators writing for at times twenty different girls. She said this is true for most sites in Ukraine. As she put it "it's a sex industry" and places like Odessa are swamps in this regard.
Anyway, this all leads to my story, which is great in many ways. So one girl and i were chatting on the site for a long time (3 months). Not the translator, some other girl. Eventually she said to talk off site i needed to do an intimacy request. I really liked her and didn't mind plunging hundreds (few gs actually) into buying credits, etc. We never wrote letters, always in chat. I told her letters are 10 credits and a waste. She said "i agree".
So eventually I figured out a way to see if she was really interested, or at any rate, if she showed any willingness to get off this site. In short, i gave her some info about myself and sure enough, 10 minutes later, she had sent me an email to my real life email address. I was shocked. Mainly because I had done the same with a few other gals and they never used this information.
What's happened since then? Well, skyping for hours on end, calling each other, texting, the whole 9. Once when she said she couldn't text me because she didn't have money on her phone, i offered to help her. She said "no way, please never think i would accept this, i have a family and they give me all the money i need."
She seems to come from relative wealth. She's a college student and has her own apartment and car, for example. She shops online and buys rather expensive things, which she shows me on skype. Anyway, it's really nice and certainly i can say i feel love for her. She as well.
So now we're at the point where we both want to meet, desperately so. I'm heading over. Known her for a solid 8 months now. I found a top hotel in a major city (few hours drive for her) and I said "should we get two rooms, i have no problem with this, if it makes u more comfortable" and she said "absolutely not, no need, i want to be with you and i have no problems. If you get 2 rooms, u will waste your cash because I will be staying in your room!"
Also when I told her I could pay for a ticket (train or bus) to get to the city, she said "please, there's no need."
So that's it, basically. I asked her if she gets paid from hrb and she denies it vehemently. Personally, I think she does and it earns her cash ... honestly, not a big deal. When I was in college if I could get paid to log on a site --- from her house, she's never once stepped foot in an agency ---- i would have done it in a heartbeat.
As for the site itself, look, it's quite clear how it operates. But that's not to say there are not some genuine girls on there. If you are interested in the 20-year-old supermodels from Odessa with perfect pics and actually they all have same pixelation and same photographers shooting them, you are kidding yourself.
That's my deal, thought i would share it. I'm under no illusions: that i end up marrying this girl is still a long way from happening. But I am happy to know her and really look forward to meeting her for the weekend. Also I should say we have a 12 year age gap and I'm in my late 30s.
Oh cheers, but I already know everything about the site and my info is confirmed from an inside source who still works for them. And I say this with teflon certainty: I would not reccomend that site to anyone. Did my own research as well since I cancelled my membership (5 months ago, the day my girl contacted me off the site).
That translator girl told me some unbelievable things. She admitted everything. The letters, the girls smiling on cams, the fact that the moment u log on to the site, u get automatic chat requests and letters from girls that are "online" at that moment. It's a well-oiled machine.
I see it all the time on here,,, a guy thinks he hit the jackpot when a woman or translator/interpreter “spills the beans” and then thinks she is an honest person! She was taking part in a scam!!!! Don’t forget that!!
Interpreters get to meet , talk and spend time with a lot of guys, and most are looking out for themselves, but don’t take it for granted that they are sincerely looking for their mate!! Most are looking for someone who they can use, control and manipulate! Why might I suggest this could be happening to you??? You did spend,,,, “a few gs actually” ,,,,, you did exactly what she wanted you to do!!
Getting a girl away from her agency, is what every guy wants,,,, but don’t always think this is proof positive that she is trying to be honest,,, she could simply be taking the agency out of the loop!! Keeping the money from flowers and gifts for herself.
Oh,,, and the pillow talk about staying with you,,, is most likely a ploy to get you to part with your money much more quickly!!
would you contact women in your own country if it was offered as "hot girls from (your town)" ??? it sounds like a porn site. need I say more? many just don't get it. if you truly are hoping to meet a woman from russia, then you should think about your own qualifications. are you worthy of a woman who is wholesome and devoted beyond belief? and who many of your friends think she is beautiful and an exceptionally down to earth woman?
this is true. do not betray yourself by thinking you can just pick out a girl and she will be ever grateful that you contacted her. it just ain't so. really.
Bigarm, do the numbers,, how much are they wanting you to spend?
if they are using your funds pretty much in any way, well you know the answer.
these cheeky cows are not poor, nor do any of these types care of your difficulty's getting there.
you are fear game to them and their network, and there are some goody's.
who suggested the over priced hole Odessa?
as Ralph said that site is like a porn site:)
just looking and the home page gives me the runs.
i find it difficult to believe most girls looking for a foreigner are hooked into these type of sites, yet it seems people believe this.
the locals over there laugh at them and the users of them, that has to tell you something surely??
when i first started i got hooked into pay letter sites or agencys around my first visit, how i learnt they are such bad news.
if i had known of these forums at that time i would have saved a few hundred dollars, and a bit of time wasting.
but i did meet some cool people in the process and had a reasonably cool adventure from such and weirdly i wouldnt change to much of it even now.
but these sites were never involved in my future searches.
and the girls paid their own way, if there's a problem with that, seriously don't bother with them.
Ranger, u got it wrong -- the translator is not the same girl i'm going to visit and have been talking to for months. The translator is married and we talked a few times off site because she was on facebook ... and when i asked her if she has guilt over essentially lying to people for a living she said, "yes but look, this is how i make my living, my husband doesn't earn a lot, my kids need to eat, and people do a lot worse" ...
Either way, I appreciate your pessimism about my situation! I need it, because as u noted, guys get carried away and lose all sense of reality.
Actually most of the women on Hotrussianbrides are geniune . I know 5 of them who most definitely are genuine . They have never requested for any gifts and one of them actually says that she would prefer to respond in writing rather than chat , which is okay as you can get 30 letters a month done for around $40 and does not cost one credit a minute as it does on chat . So why am I not officially dating this woman , as she is so honest ? Easy answer , we are just friends and exchange ideas and pleasantries . She still keeps on looking , as do I . But she says if she does not find "Mr right" by summer she will leave the site . She is a great gal . Somgevq if you are Mr right for her , don't be a dope and lose her ;) because there are guys who throw scorn upon this girls out of boredom
I realize I am answering a question (top one) that is well over a year old but let me say:
If a girl EVER promises to meet you in a city and asks for hundreds of dollars for taxi fare - she will either #1. Pocket the money and you will never see her. Or #2 Take a bus or train - paying a couple of bucks in grievna, and keep the difference. And when she meets you of course she will claim she used your money for taxi.
OF THESE two choices - you are much better off - with a girl who does the first one. Because if she just takes the money and runs, good riddance to her. But if she comes and lies and sees you as her personal ATM machine - you will slowly be taken to the cleaners. And suffer death-by-a-thousand-cuts.
Going on a little tangent -- Many of these firms are calling themselves Russian sites, although the majority of them are Ukrainians. Although many of them speak Russian, Ukrainians do not like being called Russians.
Everything that caprese says about HotRussianBrides is true,
It's a pure fucking scam.
But this is how all agencies work
The same women on HRB are listed with Anastasia, AFA, Army of Brides, 1st International, etc.
So much for 'jims agency scams' website...This w-a-n-k-e-r, is a fake..A real cocksucker!
The independent guide I had in Nikolaev, who speaks very good English and was 30 years old at the time ( too old for jetmba. coyote ), she told me how the agencies worked, as she was approached by the AFA Nikolaev agency, www.aslavgirl.com to work for them, writing 'love' letters to men.
On the 'interpreter' job, she had to write a minimum of 50 letters per day.
She was on a commission basis, for the amount of letters she wrote...She also received commission for flowers that were sent by the punters to 'the woman' that the men were writing too, commission from apartments and everything the men paid for online to 'their special girl'.
She said she had to keep the men online for as long as possible, by telling the men she was very interested in them and had strong feelings, etc...The more men she kept online, the more money she made...
She told me if she placed a profile of herself on the site, then this means more money for her.
All of the women's photos are put through 'photoshop' and altered to make the women look flawless.
And.....It's the interpreter who who then pays the woman in the profile her commission for the letters to and from the men. This is how the scam agency people like AFA can look you in the eye and tell you THEY don't pay the women...
She didn't work for them ( AFA ) because she couldn't stand the amount of dishonesty and liva a life of total lies.
I don't know what planet chand is on, for him to say 'most of the women are genuine'...??????????
But, then again, on a forum run and controlled by AFA, Ken Agee would make up character names and post on the forum what a great site AFA is and how honest the women are, etc, etc, fucking bullshit etc...
In response to Capress with regards to the chat, you do NOT need to chat with the girls . You are NOT FORCED to chat to the girls . So unless you are desperate to chat to them , you do not need to do so !
You can only chat with teh girl you are interested in . What many of these girls do not like is crude sex talk . Yes they will play along with you if you are into that kind of thing and just want them for sex . But if you want them for sex , hahaha , they will take you for a ride!
But if you are geniune then you will meet the right girl . Many of these girls have illussions about the west and believe that there is no poverty in the west and they are made to believe that this is so by the men chatting to them and get promised many things .
With regards to taxi fares , these cab drivers are no different to cab drivers in the west . If these girls live outside teh city they have to pay boundary charges to the taxi drivers , especially in Odessa .
Fellas: Why not just GO THERE? And meet the girls IN PERSON?
If you can't speak the language (as I can't) so you can't casually meet girls in the park, and you DON'T have a lot of time to randomly walk into a girl and HOPE she is serious and interested in meeting and marrying a foreigner (as I don't have the time) then bite the big one, and lay down a few dollars for a Romance Social.
Think of your money being used with the money of other men, to rent a big hall, with music, where ONLY girls interested in marriage are invited or encouraged to attend. What more could you ask for?
Sure, they won't hold your hand (like "dumb a" requires) and the girls are not all farm raised virgins, specially bred and taught to be subservient. And some of them lie from time to time (just as ALL people in the dating world lie from time to time). But if you keep your eyes open you can find the one.
There is no way to increase your odds better than a Romance Social.
" There is no way to increase your odds better than a Romance Social. "
I think jetmba must be an undercover AFA employee.
Jetmba is always telling the men Romance Socials are the go.
After 10 years he's still single.
After 10 years employment with AFA, jetmba would have received a Gold Watch.
After 10 years being a repeat offender client with AFA, jetmba. demand a Gold Watch
( pissing myself laughing at fool jetmba. coyote )
Smart a,,, I think this will put jetmba into perspective for everyone!!
His own words!!
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“I hope a few of you recognize me.
Over the years I notice fewer and fewer nicknames I am familiar with. Might be that people have changed their names. Or maybe people I know have passed on... I mean to marriage (not death).
I am still going to Ukraine. Still attending Romance Socials. Still loving every minute of it.
But I have to admit I have been a
lately at finding girls who are age appropriate for marriage.
“”In each of my recent trips - I have started with a single goal in mind of finding the one to marry.””
And then I have been either sidetracked by an exfiance who wanted to see me - or on my most recent trip - by a very wonderful Ukraiian girl who is simply too young for me. But darned if I don't keep having the best week of my life each time - and darned if the bar for that doesn't keep getting raised each time.
“”Last time I told my folks and my son that THIS time I was going to find a woman to marry.””
“”Instead I hooked up with a gorgeous 21 year old blonde,””
who speaks terrific english, and who I can spend six hours with and the time passes like one hour. We are planning a trip to the Carpathian Mountains this winter - if I can get away again, to ski.
There is no future with a girl so young for me. We both realize this. But the present is so much fun, I am embarrassed a little to say - I don't care. “
Well, that's a very interesting post from LR1701..
I remember reading and having a good laugh at it....
At least jetmba.coyote admits he is a failure, we all know this and I'm here to remind him.ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ....
I like the part where he says he 'hooked up' with a gorgeous 21 year old blonde...
She's probably having a break from taking it up the arsehole from the Arabs..
And jetmba is in love.....ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ....
“”Last time I told my folks and my son that THIS time I was going to find a woman to marry.”..
Perhaps, you should tell them that you're going down to Las Vegas and picking up that Mexican Midget.