That's funny Ivor, I don't find myself particularly successful with women. Maybe sub average, yet you think I do too well to believe! How big a loser does one need to be to find sub par to be bragging? I mean hoy crap, to you nailing a hooker is probably considered bragging! No Maryann, anyone can do it. All you need to do is stop dating men
Ok my last installment. I realize my posts have gotten Ivor to cease having sex with his mom all night so he can appear stupid for all of us, but this is the last one for this trip. I'm laying in the back seat of a car going 65 mph down washboard roads looking at the roof wondering how much better life gets. It's 1 am and I'm hoping to get a little sleep before I get to Kiev for my 6am flight So on the last couple days #3 showed she was the real woman for me. She was always very serious about me. I paid her no attention at first. She was not beautiful enough for me. She knew I dated many women. She didn't care. She knew about me and the model. She didn't care. She never worried because she had more heart and feelings in our time together than anyone. it took a day out of town for me to figure this out. So all the other women are gone. I'm going to be meeting her again in January. Ok so I know my way wasn't the cheapest. I don't care, it's just fun tickets. I do know that I began with hundreds of women I wrote to. I narrowed it down to 18, I never expected to end up with a shortish black haired brown eyed woman, but my non agency interpreter told me she has introduced 3 married couples in the last 2 years and not one of them was between men and women that were writing when the man arrived. In each case there was a disaster ala (Ivor that means kind of like) my teacher and then they met later, afterwards. So from my "not having a clue" and "train wreck" that "will never work" where I thought "I invented the wheel", I come home with just one lovely unexpected woman. Maybe it was a screw up in that I did spend more than I had to, but again I don't care about money. That's what jobs are for. So despite a room filled with nay sayers my plan worked. Looking back, could I have been smarter? Sure. Could I have spent less? Absolutely. Could I have foreseen how it would turn out? Hell no. Maybe I was just lucky. Maybe you guys are right and things worked out despite me. The woman I ended up with (remember that ranger?) always took me to traditional ukraine restaurant where the food and vodka was good and cheap. In 4 dinners between 3 of us, maybe $120 total. Ivor does $120 make you cry? Did I blow your weeks salary?
Anyway I'm happy and when I return she's taking in two weeks off work so we can "live as man and wife" together. (quote was hers). I'm completely satisfied with my "train wreck." and hope you guys that have tried for years and do things right will have the same good fortune. I've been doing letters for 2 years and 3 visits in 6 months. Ooh yea PS I have my bud at the agency monitoring letters she writes to see if any go to other men. I don't think they will but we will see.
What kind of loser would say I settled? Ralph if you can read you know you are full of crap. Ralph why would you lie about what I said to not appear stupid?
Giss,,, I wrote to women too,,, and met some of them,,, and others I hadn't wrote to, but just met during my trip!! It's not so different,, you just met so many more! That wouldn't be my style.
Any time the agencies start parading other women in front of me,,,, I'm thinking bait and switch!! And I don't like being deceived!! If they start playing me,,, I just leave town.
If the woman,,, you end up with,,, is the one you want,,, there's no crime in that!
Almost all of the restaurants in Sumy were low priced,,, one Japanese place was a little pricy. I thought of most places there being almost,,,, free! It's my belief, the lower priced places have more traditional dishes?!
Giss: I and probably most of us hope things will go well for you. It still isn't over with at this point. I've been at the same position you are at now and in the following weeks things just didn't work out. At this time you should be in direct contact with this woman and on a regular schedule. My suggestion to you is, make communication as easy for her as it is for you. I have given my lady a computer and a wireless plan via "Utel". It has coverage everywhere in Ukraine and it is inexpensive. We talk on Skype everyday. I would not presume to understand your lady friend's economic position, but I would suggest you assume the cost of continued communication. The next few weeks at an "Internet Cafe" should not be a problem, but if you consider yourself in some kind of relationship, make it as easy for her as it is for all of us, as we joust with each other on this forum. What we spend on a few cups of coffee will keep her online for a month. If neither of you loose interest after a few weeks, you should remove your profiles from any sites you have posted on. Lastly, what I found rather amusing in your postings these past months is, it was like watching a cartoon of "Foghorn Leghorn", with you strutting around and "teaching us the fine art of roostering". Good Luck to you.
So #3 was the gardener?
Back to original post giss......what about the other women you PROMISED a meeting... WAY before you met #3?
Lets see how #3 reacts to your coming back to sumy to meet the other women left. Or was that just a bunch
of BS? What is really different now?
No there was the gardener, the kidney doctor, the teacher ( the one I came for), the model, and #3, (given that number as she was the 3rd new one that showed up. Anyway what a brilliant woman she is. So just one now. I just got home a few hours ago and found 8 letters from her in my mail box. Further im not great, bragging, or a genius. I'm simply lucky that I met such a wonderful woman and got smart soon enough that I realized it before it was too late. I would say it was like finding a winning lottery ticket more than anything else.
So I met all the women I promised, or they decided to not meet me. I have no other women I need to meet so I have nothing else to do but see her
danny's right!!! Send the women a bill for your airfare, taxis, hotel/apartments, maybe even a service fee!!! And when the girl comes to stay with you,,,,, let her pay for her own ticket!! Hell,,, make her walk from the airport too!!!!
No I won't be sending her a computer this week. Further I didnt cry over my mom, I was a little choked up and had to stop talking for a few seconds. As for the new woman, #3, she is a loving caring very sweet woman who I like very much. I'm not getting married this week but I am making plans to get her a direct flight Moscow to Dominican republic in February and meet her there. My friend in Sumy who used to be a translator got a call asking if I got home ok. Also my mail box was stuffed with letters from her. Nope not ready to start sending her cash but she has shown a ton of promise. We will see
All the women are scammers except yours danny. You are just as predictable and duplicitus. It is he that states it is his woman. A computer and internet is less expensive than a Russian driver license, pych meds or a bungie cord.
Huck: no need in swatting that mosquito. I would not even have read that other post except for your prompting....................................................................... .................... Giss: My suggestion to give a computer was stated after weeks and my intent is to bring her one on your next meeting. If it goes well, leave it with her, otherwise just bring it home. The one I gave was a factory refurbished Dell laptop for less than $200. My suggestion is to get her out of the agency and using their computers. In addition it is inconvenient as hell to go to an internet cafe. You will find that direct contact is the only way you will know if you are in contact with her and not a fake email address with an agency writing to you. Regular contact will also indicate if interest is waning. Never send money to someone you have never met, but to a woman that you are courting and planning to take to another country is certainly worth sending a Moneygram for $50 to establish direct contact in an internet cafe until you meet again. If things do not work out in the next few weeks or months, that $50 will be the best spent money you will have made since you began this process.
Rodan you are correct there! Fortunately I know the 2 ladies that run the Sumy fiance.com agency very well! I have met them on each of my last three trips and I'm positive I can count on them. Both the manager and the main translator are wonderful people and will even tell me if she is writing other men. I know that may be hard to believe but in my many contacts with them I am positive of this. Having said that I could always get one for her if we are still together in a few months. Perhaps I will bring one when we go on vacation in February. I look very forward to hearing from her every day and she is a wonderful lady. If this works out it will be great
"I am making plans to get her a direct flight Moscow to Dominican republic in February and meet her there."
Hmmmmmm, giss, maybe you should check availability BEFORE you announce plans for booking a nonstop flight Moscow-DR.......because there ain't none.....What is wrong with KBP-Paris-DR??
Maybe I am wrong....you could charter a plane nonstop Moscow-DR......I would think it would bank you 6 figures...but since when did throwing your $$$ around mean anything???
I don't mean to be hard on you giss...but maybe you should think, investigate, research.....before you post something here..really. Other than that....I do hope this girl works out..really. Only time will.....
By the way....Ukraine to DR is 15+ hour trip for girl
Giss,,, you know Natalia and her sister???? You trust them??? I wanted to throw her out the window!!! The woman is a super bitch!!! She is a liar, and tried to keep me away from my date on the last night of my trip.
Is the interpreter named Inna??? Do you trust her too??? You shouldn't!!!!!