My daily relationship via phone/skype with the woman from Yalta fell to the shitter instantly when she brought up to me she needed a new 32g 5 white i-phone and a 35 dollar garment from Victoria`s Secret and she said she would pay for it no problem. She said she felt i could get her a good price here in the states on the i-phone. I said okay ,e-mail me your exact item model for phone and garment. I get an e-mail the next day with the phone model description and now 6 garments for Victoria`s secret those being 200 dollars on sale.I figured what the hell i`ll have the garments for her as a gift from me. This seemed all good because in my mind i said well,she is 47 and i am 53 we talk very good and like eachother.So when i called her and told her the garments are in transit to me before i leave thursday, and i told her the i-phone i can get will be 800 dollars her cost, she said she didnt want it . I said why not ,and she scoffed at me and said do you think i(her that is) am going to pay for a phone very sarcastically ??She got pissed off !!! I never read between the lines from her profile stating she likes comfort and a man who has no financial problems.She asked me from the very beginning if i enjoyed fine restaurants and shopping. She told me she only drinks champagne.She kept repeating she only likes the very nicest of things. She couldn`t understand why i keep such a clean home with no maid.Her 10 year long relationship with her 65 year old boyfriend ended when he died 1 year ago she said. I smell sugar daddy there. I did send her flowers and a cake for her Dec 25 holiday like ours she is Christian she claims. We were in communiqe for a solid month everyday.I said f--k this bullshit and never called her since and havent heard either.Same old shit with these Ukrainian women just a different day. Stupid is as stupid does. I fell for it again.I never read between the lines . She was very out and open about about it. But what really puzzles me is she said i have to be realistic , really Mila ?????? Im just a meat and potato man from an old steel river town i like nice things too on occasion. Oh well ,now i go to Mariupol to meet another from an agency, oh boy!!!The travel ticket is non-refundable and i`m retired, so can anyone tell me the best way to go to Mariupol from Kyiv, no train please. I can only find flight from Zhuliany to Donetsk. I see that Mariupol has an airport but for some reason nothing lands there. Do i take bus from Donetsk to Mariupol? JETMBA and others can you help, hotel,etc ?
What do they say about best laid plans??? I have litle thoughts on Mariupol and I don't know about your connection times since there are few flights (2 each way)KBP-DOT...and no to trains(I agree). Then maybe...
Well sunvolt, I can understand your chagrin. Still, much better to see this when you did, than to find out after meeting her.
It's not unusual for Ukrainians to ask people (at least, people they know very well) to buy things for them abroad, because prices on many items are MUCH higher in Ukraine. Nonetheless, the other signs you mentioned indicate a woman who expects the be maintained at a High Standard.
For my own experience along these lines, see my charmingly titled thread:
Rather like the woman in my story, your Mila is getting too old to play such games: she'll need to be mighty lucky to find a new sugar daddy, with so much competition from luscious younger gold-diggers.
Sunvolt,,,, you had a real winner there!! You are much better off without her!
Anytime they get demanding,,,, itís a bad sign. They are using your feelings and good nature against you.
I had a girl with expensive tastes, and she had the look of a deer in the headlights of a car when in a mall. I wanted to buy her new boots, but she resisted at first. The next day,, I almost had to prod her to get her to pick out the boots she wanted. The whispered in her ear:,,, I just exchanged 1,000USD into 8,000Ukr,,,, I have the money!! I didnít need to prod her after that!! Lol
I had fun for the most part,,,,, in the last store she took forever,,, that I didnít like so much. She wasnít demanding anything,, I was just happy to help her! And I asked for nothing in return!!!
First let me help you out with the iPhone thing. I know where that is coming from. Its a common misunderstanding.
When I was serious with my Mariupol girl - she asked me if I could get her an iPhone (whatever model was out at the time) because she said she was aware that these things are incredibly cheap in America. She had seen an offer for an iPhone for something like $100 with a two year service agreement - and she had no concept of the way our cell phone companies subsidize the price of the phone with the two year (or whatever) contract.
She was amazed that SOME phone she had seen advertised for FREE or for 1 cent = those were special promotions of course. But she just assumed that Apple price gouges people in Ukraine because they can get away with it, and give much better prices to people in the USA.
I remember she said "I know iPhones are only $100 in the US and they cost $500 ot MORE here."
When I told her what the price was without a contract - she got angry and didn't beleive me at first.
I generally stay in apartments in Mariupol because I have an ex (sometimes not so "ex") who lives there. My favorite hotel though is Spartak - it has not just a good - but a GREAT hotel restaurant too. But I must warn you that the less expensive rooms are on the fourth floor and there is no elevator.
I will check on flights - I HAVE flown directly into Mariupol - but the last time was 2007. I have flown into Dontetsk more recently - and the going price for a taxi from to Mariupol for Donetsk is about $70.
i always found Simferopol the worsted for players and sceamers.
so that doesnt surprise me at all Sunvolt.
ukraine domestic flights are frustrating, they have their own system of doing things:)
i stayed at the spatak in moriupol,, it was ok, cheap clean, close to the center not far from easy food also.
at that time the girls working there were fantastic to me, they made my life so easy,,, just those girls alone made this place the best hotel i stayed in over there,,, just from going the extra mile with help from people they new for car&driver hire and such,,,,,, but thats some years ago now so who knows.
There are actually two airlines that fly from from Kiev (Khuliany) to Mariupol - as of December 2012 anyway. Those are Ilyich-Avia and South Airlines.
If I recall correctly my girl arranged this flight directly through the airport office in Kiev. The plane we flew was an old Soviet Yak - I had never flown in such a plane before - and if I never do again - it won't bother me too much.
I can't recall the price - but I know it was quite reasonable.
I buy Iphones and take them to my son to sell, Ukraine has a big tax on all apple products. and Iphone4 can sell for 1000 in Ukraine. I buy them here have them refurbished and he sells them. Even if you ship them there is a tax on them at the price in Ukraine not what was paid. The tax can be more than was paid for the phone. My wife has her phone sold when her new phone arrives.
Sunvolt: If I was in your position I wouldn't depend on the agencies. I know the woman who runs the "angelica network" (or something like that) in Mariupol, which is supposed to be one of the most reputable, and I wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw a grand piano. Whats more my Mariupol girls knows her too and doesn't trust her either.
Take some time and get yourself familiar with lovefoto.ru. There is an English interface and you can meet a REAL SINCERE girl who lives in Mariupol without agency interferance. With just a few messages you might just find a real sincere gem.
Thanks Jet and others, i am flying to Donetsk to Mariupol then the 2 hour bus confirmed. Jet, i hate going in the blind down there but this agency im contacting makes me worry because simple questions like what color do you like go unanswered. I firmly beleive the actual lady i am meeting is not writing the replies but she wants to meet me in person. I think the agency owner is ging to shit when i call with the contact number i was provided with from a reliable source. Jet what is the owners first name ? Thanks for the other sight. Spartak looks good. How far is this hotel from the bus terminal ?
Thanks Jet, i`ll remember that name .I googled up Angelica in Mariupol and their contact numbers do not match what two i have for her agency,Jet, is that the agency Nasfan was locking horns withwhen he met Larisa? Jet , i couldnt find any good reviews for the Spartak, only one good one out of 9 so i went for the Hotel Moryak only 300 meters from the Azov Sea.Probably a disgruntled crew sat down and all took turns on same PC to slam them pretty good . I wanted that European hotel on the main strip but it was booked full. On the cell phone guys,i was watching e-bay closely and the new ones are way less expensive with a carrier and or contract but the new ones with out a contract or carrier are double or more in price . That gold digger in Yalta/Simferopol said a new i-phone 5 32g no carrier or contract was 1300USD . Ranger, I hear ya (lol). Isnt it something how in the states you never give a gift on the first date only on birthdays and holidays ? What da f--k ???? Who invented this crap???? How come no women in the FSU ever send me a bottle of champagne and a cake ? Okay guys,thanks for input, i`m almost done packing and am ready to enjoy myself tomorrow and the next 11 days. Wish me luck and i`ll see you later or check forum when i get time. As Jetmba sez:it was or shall be the time of my life ! for the fifth time that is (lol)!