bus station is walk-able but really if you have a bit of luggage i would go by car taxi type of thing if its 2 hours,,,,, finding hotel could be a drama so it fix's that to.
luggage and buses there are not me, and they dont speaky english or care to.
wonder if the bus station still looks like something out of ww2,,,,,,,,,after the germans adjusted a few things.
Sunvolt - DON'T ever go into this situation thinking that women wil reciprocate and buy you champagne, etc. The concept of going dutch as we do in the US doesn't exist - its against tradition and they know darned well that we have more income than they do.
BUT I have NEVER had a woman who demanded expensive gifts from me - I have been ASKED occassionally - can't hurt to ask - but NEVER demanded as a condition of furthering the relationship.
I saw some pretty good prices for unlocked iPhones on ebay myself - strage that our our experiences are so different.
Can't understand WHY Spartak got bad reviews - ONLY thing wrong with it is no elevator - but I haven't stayed at many other hotels in Mariupol.
Also since I have never ridden the bus there I don't know where the station is.
The key to that website (lovefoto.ru) is very simple - if you LOOK for the hottest most gorgeous girls - you will likely run into a scammer (surprise). The key is to look for a beautiful girl with very amateur photos. That means the girl AND the photos are real.
Couldn't help but see that Looney knocked the website - AND agencies. Well, without Romance Socials, what else is left? But he ALSO hates every Ukrainian woman associated with websites, AND agencies, AND Socials - seems to him that ALL single Ukrainian girls are bad. But yet he can't find a wife. Go figure?
Jet , That was just a joke about the reciprocating or them initiating. Gotta shave and get dressed. Got some small Godiva chocolate boxes from Macy`s. The agency already tried to arrange to meet me with a taxi at Donetsk Airport and a hotel but i beat them to it. We`ll see how it roes . Leavin in 2 hours. Moya ,what is your favorite color, difficult question ??? (LOL) !!
Long trip and im here. Snow and not too cold. My observation is there is nothing more happier than a smiling Ukrainian girl or woman walking with her man and enjoying every step.Like a happy little bird just enjoying the moment of life .
Sunvolt: Refering to a comment made much hgher in this thread, I actually knew a guy, I met at the first Romance Social I ever attended, who thought that girls should pay for the meal half the time. He and I were dating two girls who were friends. One day he said that we should just put our foot down and tell the girls that if they want to go out with us again THEY were going to have to pick up the tab for the next few meals, because WE had payed for the first ones. I thought the guy was joking until I realized he was dead serious.
These girls had come from Moldova with - return bus tickets, and just 30 Moldovan Lei (thats abvout $3) between them, they explained it was just enough to buy something to eat on the bus home if they didn't meet anyone special. And he expected them to pick up the tab.
Well, things have changed drastically thanks to Ukraine Airlines. They have cancelled my flight to Donestk 3 times since i have been in Kyiv.And they want to fly me in on the 9:00 pm flight and arrive when the buses have quit running and want to fly me back TO Kyiv 7:0Oam after a one and a half hour taxi ride back to Donetsk from Mariupol. I cant trust the airlines to keep the booking .locals have told me this airlines cancel qite often. I dont like 12 hour train rides.The agency threw insane taxi prices at me using her personal driver. 140 USD one way then double on the way back.20 dollars per hour on the interpretor plus the girl is working the most of the day. The profile says her english is six level when it is zero, the agency said to me after i asked. Plus she wanted me to use her apartment through her agency . Nothing smelled good about this so i ploeky backed out Mariupol.Also i was infomed Mariuol Airport is not open and working. So i contacted a pretty 30 year old slender blode with privete e-mail from Kyiv who contacted me first before i left. She holds my arm everywhere i go and is very happy, Boy can she wear a pair of jeans that fit.We are having a very pleasant time taking our time.I am having the time of my life.
This has turned into another continuing saga, bla bla bla.Same shit different day in Kyiv. I hate to bore you guys and you too Moya.She is 30 and a stunning blonde. I am 53.She meets me at Golden Gate Irish Pub. Her photo does her no justice.She is a WOW and a private e-mailer.I am tickled of course but i am not blind and overwhelmed by her complete sexiness and feminity. Short tight black mini-skirt with supple black leather boots half way up her thighs and then folded over.Blonde hair Stiletto heels about 4 inches. A form fitting black pullover with a trim of fur around neck. A typical outstanding Ukrainian face with beautiful make-up and killer blue eyes.She speaks no English but claims level 4 and relies on a translating device which sucks.Yes it is fun to be with such a specimen of a woman. But just sit back and listen and watch it unfold before you.I am as kind and as attentative as a man should be wishing for hope and a wife . I have now 5 trips to Kyiv with agencies/socials and private e-mailers in 9 years on and off. So we dont understand eachother.She makes sure her translator says she is broke totally and she looks like a European runway model. She only orders champagne and Martinis in the most posh Kyiv Hotels.She says she needs Chanel and Prada accessories to stay beautiful.She is a little looped and shows me her passport, 2 of them and they are both stamped solid all trips being to Egypt and Dubai but she is broke ! But she pulls my arm into these places without suggesting. I am laughing inside but i am enjoying it . I know i am being worked . I suggested to her she needs to take english lessons on day 2 and on the morning of day 3 she e-mails me she needs 4 hundred dollars cash for an intensive course about 12 weeks long. So she always taxis to me and i pay which is normal when you date in Ukraine.So she shows up yesterday to the front of my hotel entrance to go get lunch at an Italian Resaurant she made plans for. I asked her to spend a little time with me inside to show her all my photo folders on file of my life,family.She does not want to , she doesnt work presently but has no time for this.So i put my foot down and said we are going to Olivers the local cafeteria for Ukrainians where two people can eat good local food with drinks and desert for under 100 Hrivnas. She was not happy.Immediately after she marches straight into another posh hotel for capuccino and dessert for two without asking, for 260 Hr .She handed me her telephone and her friend was on it who speaks english and asked me if i decided to give her, my date the 400 dollars for english lessons !!!. This was her whole itinerary with me that day ! She says in her profile she is sociable.I think she has Attention Deficit Disorder and is nuts.She actually stops in front of every mirror and looks at herself . The whole time from the moment we met she was constantly texting ,messaging receiving calls looking above me and around me but almost never looking too me. Now she is always walking 10 feet ahead of me never beside me.On the second night after dinner at Obriens Pub she was taking me to the Opera she said as her gift to me. Great! When we arrived by taxi she said she needed 500 Hrvnas for the tickets !Messaged the whole time during the show and would get up and go flirt with a few men at an Opera ,ballet!Unbeleivable but normal for web women mostly i guess. After the show she knew actual people who performed on stage . She waited like a groupie for an autograph and gave her number out and was clearly interested in him in front of me and him in her. So, after our local lunch and her capuccino i was not happy and decided to quit trying to keep up with her. I told her i was not feeling good and i was getting sick and i was and now am bed ridden with a bad flu. She again requested 200 Hrvnas for the taxi and i watched her walk away with it and then enter the door for the 5 hrivnas metro transit. What a f--kin bummer. I went to my apartment sick in bed, chest,throat is bad now for two days the bitch wont even call or offer to help or come over but she claims she wants me as her man.Your better off in Egypt or Dubai, Lady 135275
Congratulations, sunvolt: you found yourself a genuine six-cylinder Ukrainian vampire. In case anyone thinks I might be laughing at you, I've had sufficient similar experience, to clearly visualize what you're talking about -- many familiar facets!
I looked at her profile, she logged in within the last 24 hours, no doubt searching for fresh blood.
If you don't give up on the whole enterprise, after you've dusted yourself off, you can find some worthwhile suggestions here for finding better candidates.
I hope your illness (maybe flu :( ) lifts soon. I've been sick more than once when visiting in the FSU, what a drag.
I am as sick as a dog. The hotel staff is trying their best running to the pharmacy. I have got to recover to make the grueling trip home,This happened the last time i was here and i,ve had flu shots both times,I did e-mail every privat emailer in Kyiv and a lot of them including my phone number and none have been active for quite a while no replys.
Sunvolt: I've met girls like that. I think we all have. But as soon as saw she was practically a pro I would have made my exit. My time is too valuable to waste wth a girl like that - she is clearly a disaster waiting to happen.
My hotel consierge and is girlfriend speak good english who i have become good acquaintences with. They have helped me tremendously with alot.They told me that the people they know and themselves also think it is quite a novel subject about Americans and western men coming to FSU all the time looking for women.They feel the woman who advertise themselves privately and through the agencys have some type of mental hangups about attention and material quest. They see what happens to men all the time right at the doorstep of their very own apartment complex they run and own where i am and they roll their eyes in complete astonishment at how men get duped . But yes they did say there is a problem with the ratio. There are MORE women than men. I also want to debunk the myth of Ukrainian men treating their women badly.Every couple i see the man or boy is very respectful and gentle to her and the women in return to him is always talking and smiling holding his arm in a very very happy way. Young or old i see no quarrel or abuse. Just two love birds. I dont see this at all in the States. God dammit, this is what i want.......
Sunvolt,,, do you think that girl was nothing but a scammer, or do you think she believed, that she was worth that much?? That men should pay for the privilege of viewing her and spending time with her???
A lot of people are sick around the world. I’m just recovering from the,, Norovirus,,, the vomiting bug! If I had planned a trip to Ukraine this year, I’d be there right now too!! The 2nd and 3rd weeks of January seem to be very unlucky for many.
I think she beleived her p---y was gold plated and she was a scammer, Pro Dater i guess . She actually came to my apartment yesterday claiming she made me homemade borscht,(it was in a store container with label) and brought some milk to heat up and put lemon in it. When i was showing her my home photos,Harleys, life etc. she quickly lost interest and said her only interest is fashion and travel and then got up and wanted compensated for the food and taxi. What a cold blooded reptile. If you read earlier post, The Mariupol destination fell to shit with continuos flight cancellations. She was a back up. I think mother Ukraine is telling me something.STAY OUT.Last time i was here in 2005 i left with a very bad flu and no love such as this one.