"It doesn't matter. Once you are married you will not be prosecuted for planning it or not planning it. How can USCIS prove otherwise? You can fall in love or out of love. You don't need a lawyer."
Sorry ragingbull: I thought you lived in the USA.
Thw laws in La La Land must be different than ours.
In a post to you the question "Did you get it?" should always be answered by "No, I didn't get it. I don't have a clue. And I am going to show you I have no comprehension at all afternoon and then blame YOU when I finally DO get it."
And.
"I DON'T have to consider the question, when I rant and rave about the answer as if its a stand alone statement, all afternoon, like I did yesterday."
"And when you describe an event. I am dumb enough to think it ALWAYS happens. Unless you specify 'sometimes'."
One more time you quote my response WITHOUT quoting the comment I was refering to.
Its NOT a stand alone statement its a RESPONSE! How are you so dense that you cannot see that?
""Getting back to the main topic, it is a walk in the park now for a Ukrainian to get a USA visa and to travel abroad. So why make it hard on yourself, she applies,gets one ,comes over and you marry her."
It is NOT a walk in the park for a 21 year old girl, unmarried, no children, no business or real estate she must return to - to get a USA tourist visa. NOT a walk-in-the park in any way. And if she WERE to get one, and got married in the US it would be illegal and constitute fraud."
One HAS to be written with the other or the response makes no sense.
Either you have NO BRAINS or NO INTEGRITY. Which is it?
Why do you lie so and why MUST you be so dishonest? Does it make you FEEL big?
When I came back to this forum I wondered why so many people didn't like you - ESPECIALLY nasfan6? Both of you are Republicans and "Conservatives".
But with THIS thng where you keep ranting and raving about an answer -without ever mentioning what I was answering - I can see. Again either you have NO braina or no integrity. Which is it? YOU answer?
Some of you are American and you might be wondering how to legally marry and bring your wife to the USA. You might be wondering about bring a girl over on a Tourist Visa and then marrying her. And you might have been following the "debate" I have been having with ragingbull.
Realize first and foremost that ragingbull is an idiot - and is making up stuff with absolutely NO understanding of the law. If you follow his advice you will CERTAINLY get into trouble. Don't take my word for it, and for GOD'S SAKE don't take ragingbull's word for it. Seek legal help.
THIS is a better website to determine the feasibility of marrying on a Tourist Visa:
ragingbull wrote: "Hey Jetmba. The moderators do not moderate my posts anymore. Cool, huh? "
must be nice. Ive posted twice on this thread and neither post made it onto the page.
I would probably not consider getting married with a girl in US on tourist visa that Ive dated for awhile as it would be risky.
The ongoing relationship is defacto evidence of circumventing the immigration process. Most slavic girls not already looking
for an avenue to get into and stay in the US are going to just happen to meet a guy, fall in love and get married in a matter of days.
Tuesday we went to office to register marriage and as we suspected were told 30 day wait for approval. The lady then, upon seeing my American papers,
asked my girl and her mom to go with her into her office. At that point she started berating my girl over how she can marry older American guy. "what can you offer him? you dont have real money and no specialized degree!", "how do you know he wont sell you because it happens all the time. girls go and never heard from again" and "bla, bla, bla" she asked her mother how she could let her 22 year old daughter go to America? needless to say, "mom's" blood pressure went up
and was scared to death. Then it was my turn to try to explain. Of course she didnt believe a word I had to say telling me "you are handsome man why her when I know you can choose any girl here? and bla bla bla" She then said "live together for some months and then come back if you still want to marry and you should visit US first, you may not like it". She said she also would want proof of this "bone fide" relationship to get license. We were all blown away by this and since her mother was scared to death believing this lady we said "ok, we will wait".
I think her reaction was due to age difference, me 46 and her 22.
so we regroup and see what avenue to pursue. Not having permanent residence I didnt want to push the issue. If I was citizen it would not have been a problem.
Has anyone else ever heard of this happening? can she really deny us? Olga?
When one's argument is lost, one starts name calling and attacks everything else that doesn't apply. That's Jetmba. No. He's not a nice guy. He has baggage. He is taking it out on people on the forum. To him, what he says goes. Questioning his ways will lead him to patronize you and bring things up that don't apply. Then, when he loses, he calls you names like a little kid.
fullabull: We'll have to SEE what happens when I lose. It certainly won't be on THIS thread.
You DON'T spend the afternoon arguing a ridiculous AND asinine point like you did yesterday - before REALIZING your mistake - and then just win because you SAID you did.
Looks to me like you are a loser in SO many ways I had never realized before.
Rage, that was a shot below the belt man, not cool to bring that up no matter how angry you are, or how much you hate or dislike someone. If I was face to face with someone who brought up that subject in an argument I probably go to prison for a very long time.
It is the truth. At least I see it that way. He must face it, not take it out on us. You have seen my post on the other thread. I am not doing this in anger.
Isn't name calling below the belt? I am just doing it better than him - with the truth.
Blu, if you went to prison, would that not give you two tragedies? That need not happen to Jetmba. I suggest you look into how his argument with LR started.
Looney: I won't quite be as easy as Danny, who was right when he called you skum.
Now I see what happened. Like little children in a schoolyard. You guys literally ganged up and did what no human being would do to another because you couldn't take losing an internet argument. (And when I pointed it out - I got PMs where some of you blamed each other, like a gang of school children). You depended on internet anonymity to gang up and mount an attack using no rules whatsoever.
And you can only approach GIRLS with anonymity (thats why you hate the face to face of Romance Socials). But guess what - eventually you have to GO to Ukraine and MEET the girls face to face. And then they realize what skum you are. So you have to come home and start anonymously writing again.
And THATS why you attack others who actually are HAPPY with their experiences. Because you never will be.