First of all again I would like to thank the nice people who provide this forum. As a person new to this world of Ukrainian Brides I just have to ask does any of this really happen? Do Ukrainian women really want to find an American man to marry and have a family with? My first experience was with Anastasia, with one of their professional chatters. When my credit card bill came it showed Anastasia's business license is registered as a dating and ESCORT SERVICE!!! So after a horrible experience I decided ok I really in my heart of hearts want to meet and marry a girl from Ukraine. I looked around and although not agreeing with the $99 VIP fee, answered a girl who wrote to me from Sevastopol. Why pay $99 to save $2 on each letter?? So it costs $9.99 to open and read and $9.99 to send a reply. This girl works at a court there and says she has no computer at home. She is on VK but hardly ever uses it. She claims she likes the service because it translates the letters and her english isnt that good. Everything seems great and real. After a while she told me her surname, then after a while her cell number, then her address. I have sent her roses for Valentines day and 2 other gifts. She has asked for nothing, no money, no nothing. I have fallen in Love with her!! I have written poems to her and our letters have been very nice. Always in the back of my mind is the thought all of those girls make money off of the letters!! We have spoken on her cell phone twice, we got cut off the second time, but now it just rings and rings and she says the calls are not going through. All of the negative stuff I read makes me so nervous. I was a professional wrestler for 16 years and am 41 now, could have alot of American girls but I am following my heart. As to those who say all of this is a scam I can tell you something Jeff Jarrett taught me years ago when wrestlers protected the business, FOR THOSE THAT BELIEVE YOU CANT TELL THEM OTHERWISE AND FOR THOSE WHO DONT BELIEVE NO POSSIBLE EXPLANATION WILL EVER CHANGE THEIR MIND!! Seems the people who make fun of us and say it is all fake and a work for money seem to fit that saying. They are kind of like the magician who got pissed off and went on tv showing everyone how all of the illusions are done!! I wan't to be careful and not get taken, but still believe this is possible. I welcome your answers and opinions. Thanks again for listening for dreamers like us who still try to follow their hearts!! Rick
1) Yes, you are crazy ... but probably not more than average.
2) Does what really happen? Getting scammed, or finding true love with an internet girl?
3) Your correspondent (who is NOT necessarily the same lady whose pictures you have seen) is a professional, who earns a percentage from the per-letter fees.
To your big question: "Do Ukrainian women really want to find an American man to marry and have a family with?" In general, the answer is "no," but there are SOME women in the former Soviet Union who want to marry a man and have a family with him ... and have become completely discouraged about finding a good man locally. Most of them would prefer to make their family with a fellow countryman -- but are willing to go far, to be with the right man.
I suggest you keep reading on this forum, painful though it sometimes is!
For every woman genuinely looking online for the man to create a family with, you will find between one and thirty scammers, depending where you are looking. So success requires time, care, caution, skepticism, and a serious commitment to go through a big process.
yes, Rick. Russian girls arent really any different either. My friend met a girl from St Petersburg yesterday and I knew in 15 minutes
it wasnt going to lead anywhere despite a dozen letters than indicated otherwise. She was a bit put off that I spoke Russian meaning
there would be no conversations with her "translator" that went unnoticed. Funny thing, she spoke decent english and didnt need translator.
There are many girls looking for a good man regardless of where he lives. I simply takes time to find them.
You wont do it on one trip per year. It takes a commitment and that takes money because you will need to go often to develop a relationship.
rick, dont sell your heart to some cheap Ukrainian internet slapper,, its worth more then gold to you.
if you think Ukraine courts are of honest and up standing people surprise surprise.
its even possible the job is bull and put in the email to make you feel comfortable, who knows.
very little good comes out of Ukraine,, this is a country that will happily keep you a far, keep you playing on the net, give you all the hope, but in reality its sucking on your wallet and will eventually make you question yourself long after your friends call you nuts with the endless stabs at finding what ever you are after.
if you eventually do get there, dont follow under their directions, be independent, be very careful how much of the system (their system) you use, if you do use it.
the reality is theres very little morals in this country, its bordering country's dont trust them at the best of times.
if you want a Ukraine girl you need to go there and try to stay away from the sick system it has created for the likes of us.
if you dont know how to live and survive for yourself in such a land then really this isn't for you.
i dont know how people live around you but with what i've seen through Ukraine, how they treat there forgotten, down trodden, poor, homeless, the dead, the new born,,,,, what a bunch of heartless people..
not all people there are like this, but its a serious battle for the good hearted to keep some half descent morals going in this country.
many have cunningly rewritten the 'what ever' commandments to their favour.
just look how those fat little men in the government house lov having fist fists every few months(what the f#ck)
no morality's at all in my eyes.
the country is in a monkey see monkey do type of state,, if the upper people can play games the lower will do to, with more enthusiasm..
no mate their morals went out the door a long time ago, thats why they are still third world.
tread cautiously if Ukraine is your thing..
sorry 2 read your words about ukraine kiwinorth but i could write the complete oppisite
maybe you have just been unlucky who knows unless you tell us your story?
i find ukrainians really great when you get 2 know them and i have lived here 50 / 50 with england for many years now so i should know what im talking about. 2 my gorgeous 4 year-old boy is ukrainian and im very happy he was not born in england but ukraine
guys its all about fate simple as that..........
fate 2 be kiwinorth or fate 2 be very lucky like myself
ps. daa fate im now ruled by my now out-off controled ukrainian 4 year-old in fluent english and ukrainian daa life is tough for this coool brit very tough indeed!
I strongly second that . I swear they run a close second to the Nigerians when it comes to the art of fraud . Russians aren`t no better in my book. They are very cunning and savvy when it comes to comes to making a buck . Since they have been introduced to capitalism there are no rules . 60 minutes tv show last night was about internet hackers and viruses and the internet detectives said that almost all hackers and viruses come from russia.They have teams of people who do this for a living They said the local paper in one town applauded a pair of young guys who swindled 30 thousand USD from what they said was greedy corrupt american who didn`t deserve to have this kind of money . This is their mentality and it shows right here on this dating site.Plus i have yet to meet a russian in America who is having a hard time financially. Every russian male i have met who comes here to the states climbs the business ladder very quickly.My observations and thoughts
i have nothing to be sorry about?
fate 2 be kiwinorth or fate 2 be a gloater, thats just bad manners really, something i just dont do..
specially when so many struggle with any sort of sincerity from ukraine.
but hey good for you, but try to think of others less fortunate, that was my point.
Look, the best place to find a woman is right here. No profit motive to be a scammer. Don't use other services. This place is the best scammer to honest woman ratio you will find anywhere. Per letter deals are a scam because they are set up that way. Even the honest ones turn their head when they want to make money.
It's funny. I read about how dishonest everyone is in ukraine. While I've met a FEW scammers, I'd say no more than in the US. I can say my wife is the most honest person I have known in my life. Her family is great. Maybe because she comes from a fairly affluent family by their standards. Her dad has 2 cars. They live in a 1600 Sq ft condo they have paid off. Her sister owns 2 stores, one a lingerie store, the other a furniture store.
They are great and completely trust worthy.
Remember, Murphy's Law!!! LOL...There is nothing dishonest about meeting a party girl anywhere! Or that she found a foreign guy with money to spend....no matter which game just got in,,,play it at your own risk!! Happy Hunger Games ! " And may the odds ever be on your favor".