To find a great woman in just 5 troops? I don't think so. If I had not gotten together with the woman i did I had 7 or 8 more women lined up to meet on that trip. I had exchanged over 50 long letters with each one. It seemed to me that all of them were sweety and sincere women. I'll never know now but this all seemed so easy.
Just count your blessings Tom. It is possible but not usual. Ive been engaged twice in last 4 years but because Im so skeptical and picky on the wife thing I havent done it. could have been married in February;)
There are many good ladies in Ukraine but it takes time and patience and not thinking with your lower extremities.
Tom,,,, without meeting your girl, it’s difficult to say if you’re lucky or not,,,, but if what you write about her is true,,,, then yes,, you are lucky!!
You say that you had met with other good women,,, and that you had planned to meet more,, if you hadn’t found your current girl?! You really hadn’t spent enough time with any of them to know whether they were all sincere and genuine. It takes time to discover if all of them are honest,,, some can be very patient!
You found your girl on the 5th trip?? If I found a girl on my next trip,,,, (my 5th) I would not be coming to the forum saying how easy it was! I spent much more time between trips than you did,,,, and that much time can be hell.
If I were you,,,,, I’d be a little worried about venturing into jinxing territory,,,, counting chicks before they hatch and stuff. You went to some of the same places that I did,,, and it wasn’t that easy.
of cause its easy, but what kind of standard was your search?
there's finding tasty rump, been fussy and there's been very fussy.
we all look for someone who's honest, pretty, not to grumpy, open to leaving, worker what ever.
many meet sweet woman like this, its not difficult.
sweet doesn't mean anything but good people.
for all we know your standard of a relationship Tom is the likes of old, me man you woman great hair.
when you come back in 4-5 years with a friendship still on fire then a presumption actually can be made on your so called luck.
its never been difficult finding a nice girl over there but whats rare for many and maybe most is finding your equal.
where both of ya characters mesh as if each were born to be with each other, now that's another thing.
but yes congratulations.
Yes, TS you are ! well ,,,,at least ,you makes it sound like that….. Congrats
While other’s like me “do nothing but complaint “, others make accusations that do not serve anything……. I can say that, after 1400 letters/emails,,,, none of those woman, for the exception of 2o 3 did not give a the time and day to get to know me.
“Mia culpa” for being naïve and for trying to convince myself that it could workout,. After 5th trips to AU and reading here and there, the recalls and the what if , I just bend over my knees to the ground with my hands upon my face, told myself “ I am such a fool”. Well I was bragging and telling “ I am living the dream” with this UA beauty….hmmm…..now is back to reality.
I try it again but this time online…well,,,,needless to mention this story again but opsss I did it again, and my hero mask felt to the floor when checked with reality again. And that was on my 5th and last time on UA.
I also stop searching. Now, I just looking forward for meet my future queen in a calmly way one step at the time. Because, she is like any woman in the world, thinking about the future, about hers insecurities and needs.
You cant pretend that you have a successful history if you still working on it...
I was found by a girl in facebook... she insisted me to go to Ukraine month by month, she use to wake up in the middle of the night to speak with me in skype during hours... I meet the family, friends, etc.
I got her passport, immigration process, non refundable airline tickets and suddenly... "I don't want to go".
She has a boyfriend in Ukraine all that process.
Even if you are married you cant pretend you know the woman... there are hundred histories of man who where abandoned as soon as the girl obtained the green card, others where they lost 50% of all they have and the girl just went back to its country.
In all these histories the guys were thinking they were "the exception to the rule".
The games they play with us and their total dishonesty,,, has me more than a little gun shy.
The guys who are married,, or think it is a done deal, might be headed for a rude awakening. And it could be years before you know.
often lonely those girls you are getting at are measuring you up while living their momentary dream.
seeing what they can get away with when the mood strikes, if it dose,, of cause it will.
for it just doesn't matter to her, until her little dream becomes boring.
she watches, learning how soft his belly really is.
they lov those soft ones with something to loose, specially they who believe their wealth is protected by lawyers and courts.
greedy people.
so much easier been a poor man i think.
Kiwi,,,, I don’t consider myself to be a rich man,,, but I have a lot to protect. I’ve realized that I’m doing my family a favor by not marrying someone from the FSU,,, as the marriage would most likely be over by now. I haven’t met anyone yet that is worthy or even looking for marriage.
I remember it being said on here a few times,,,,, that some women will keep using guys until she finds the right one,,,,, then suddenly and miraculously,,,, she will turn honest and sincere,,,, for the “right man”?!! If I ever find the “right” woman,,,, and I learn that she had used other guys before me,,,, I’d drop her sorry ass,,,, because she doesn’t know the difference between right and wrong.
Garry, I used fiancée.com. This place is the best. Jonas I was much smarter than that. I handed her 50 opportunities to grab a much as $1000 and she passed each time. Of course even once she arrives next month she could wait 2 years them bail but an iron clad prenup makes the down side a couple grand and 2 years of hot monkey sex... That's the worst it can be.
Kiwi I'm a scientist of some reputation i in my field. People in the renewable energy fields would surely know me. I say that to let you know... That she is much smarter than i am. More common sense too. She has to be a genius as my iq is 139, just one point short.
As to all of you negative people, as i said this all may be an elaborate scam, of course but if she walls she goes with $400? One half the current checking account balance. If she files for public assistance she owes me that back as soon as she amasses any assets. If she is a scammer shew is the worst one in the world for signing this and the best one on earth for her long term ability to maintain the charade. Having her both the best and the worst? I wouldn't guess so.
Holy mf ranger, you are one tight assed dude. Look. Call it a game. Think of life add you would poker. On each hand you maximize your up side and minimize your down side. If you do this you limit your losses. I have a woman way out of my league. Sure she may be gone tomorrow but I will lose nothing. If loo can I will seems you a photo of us together. I'm sure you will agree I'm am old bastard and she is...well.. Striking. Even if you don't find her the most beautiful woman on earth, I do and that is how things are supposed to be
I can't disagree with you ranger. Who knows and I'm a long way from claiming success. I've only begun the race, but I'm in it at least. I'm glad that things did work out but I must add "so far". Ask me in 30 years if i was right.
Tom,,, I wrote my 9.17th post before your post from the 16th appeared. What I had wrote on a previous post, about women using other men until they find the right one, was meant for all of us. I can’t remember how many times I was called: nice, wonderful, funny,,,,, marvelous,,, only to find out later that they had no intentions of having a relationship, or that they were never available in the first place. This is something that every guy who sits down in front of a computer has to deal with.
I don’t agree about there being nothing to lose,,,,,,,, not even thinking about time and money. If I never joined a dating website,,, I might be married by now. I focused my full attention on this,,,,,, and ignored anything around home.
Nothing to lose could be what the women are thinking too?! I can’t treat it like a game. Dating is one thing,,, but when you search for a wife,,, and the women who are on these websites are supposed to be looking for a husband,, but are playing games instead. That’s too much for me.
I received your email with the photo of the two of you together. I can see why you consider yourself very lucky. She seems to be very pleasant and a classy looking lady.
Hahaha I heard they all gain some weight with the availability of food. As I said she's an ex model and very careful about each thing she eats. Anyway I just got off the phone with her. Her interview was just ending and despite her being told it would be a 7 day wait for her answer if she passed or to recurve her interview, they gave her the visa right there before she ever left the building. She's going to be here now in just a few days now. One good thing about all my troops over, I've got one free one coming still. As for nothing to lose, what i meant was I have minimized the down side s much as possible and truly feel she is absolutely sincere, so unless I plan on backing out of the thing I've worked on for the last 2 years.... It's time to jump.
Ive said this numerous times and will say it again. All the letters in the world mean nothing till the first meeting.
She will know if she wants to be with you or not and if she likes you within the first 30 seconds of that first meeting.
A "seasoned veteran" of FSU dating should be able to tell whether she genuinely likes you or is just along for the ride after the first meeting
and no longer than the second.
Most guys should really have a clue of how things work after the 3rd trip.
Usually guys are in a trance on the first trip and cannot think straight as most FSU girls are hot.
If you arent a desperate fool it should take more than 2 trips to start to figure things out and start being logical about
the "game".
Just as your home country, its a numbers game.
As for me, it took me 4 trips and 8 months to figure out I was a FOOL, but I strongly believe and without bragging about it, that she made a mistake making a fool out of myself. Game over………….!