ďUkraine girls will never follow them to those countries because they know that they treat women like shit.Ē
I donít completely agree with that. Many will try to pick them clean without any commitments,,, but some do marry Arabs. They are also lured there for good paying jobs, only to have the boss hitting on them all day long.
Hasnít anyone else received letters from FSU women in Arab countries,,, and most notably Dubai?
I hope we are not forming here a mutual appreciation society called "We Western guys are the good guys and Turks and Muslims are the bad guys" as there are plenty of pretty nasty guys here in the West: men trying to cheat on their wives with an 'easy' FSU girl, time wasters, men who treat them badly and so on, those who think they can actually buy a girl from an online catalogue, etc.
gecko, I do not think stating the obvious, that Western men from Western cultures is being insecure. The truth is the truth. Men from Muslim cultures marry children, put women in prison for reporting a rape, prevent women from working/driving/studying. Why wouldn't I put them down and be unhappy about them touching Ukrainian women?
I donít think anyone here is implying that all western men are good, and all Arab or Turkish men are bad. Iíve had a couple of conversations with men from somewhere in the middle eastern world,,,, and they seemed fine,,, but I have also witnessed some behaving badly too,,, more so than any others. It is in their culture to treat women as second class citizens,,, as property. Women are only treated well during the courtship.
We have bad men in the western world,,, hell,, we have them on the forum!
On my socials tour in the late 90ís, there was a small group of men,,, most were alright, but two werenít! One of them probably didnít treat women well,,, while the other seemed to hate the world! Never a good word from him,,, sarcastic, bitter, probably complained about his motherís milk. A real prick.
One day when waiting in the hotel lobby for my girl to arrive,,, I started a conversation with a girl that was waiting for her man to come down from his room. The lobby had two huge leather sofas in it,,,, joined at the corners to make 90 degrees. I sat in the middle of one and this girl sat at the far end of the other,,,,,,, 10-12 feet apart. This girl was something special,,, 5í10, 18 yrs, 100% articulate in English,,,, and I think at least one other foreign language. She lived in a city near Moscow that had 3 or 4 letters in it. I knew all of that BEFORE we met in person. Her name was Barbara and she was on the first page in one of Anastasiaís catalogs.
When her man came down from his room,,, and saw that we were talking,,, he grabbed her by the arm and almost ripped it off,,, then pulled her out the front door,,, while giving me a real dirty look. Iím not sure if I ever saw them together after that,,,, it was 16 years ago. To this day I still wonder if she ended up with him,,,,, and why such a charming young girl would pick a miserable prick like him.
It is false to say that men from Muslim cultures marry children, put women in prison for reporting rape etc. For instance Turkey is a country of Muslim men and it is a secular state so it does not have any silly Muslim laws like the Sharia law. Also, Turkey is working hard to be accepted in the EU and it knows that it would never be accepted with Saudi Arabia type treatment of women.
That many Turkish men are male chauvinists maybe is another way of saying it. Then again so are many men in those rectangular states in the USA.