As I have said it on other postings, there are loads of honest ladies in the FSU but the problem is that this is like a computer game where you get all kinds of traps and 'attacks' on your way to the 'pot of gold' of a lovely FSU bride. It is like you lose a life every time you encounter a scammer or time waster, even if you only lose £50.
In the recent case of 4re, when the first trap is as bad as the one he had, it can be game over from the beginning.
I have read that scammers are getting more and more sophisticated in their techniques, but this is not true, they all use the same old techniques over and over again. The scammers who are really clever are making millions from computer fraud, blackmail from computer viruses, etc. They are not bothered with extracting £1000 from a bloke after working for several weeks or months on him.
I read reports of men who get scammed, on scammer data bases regularly, and it really is always the same maximum of 10 different scam scenarios. The reason scammers succeed is that they get money from novice FSU bride seekers. Like with 4re, it is almost always men who do this for the first time and they know nothing about dodgy agencies or the scammer techniques, plus some of them are plain stupid too, let us be honest.
Some people with poor English may not understand: 'computer game' here is metaphor.
You see just a few weeks or days ago he was criticising everyone who was talking about scammers. Now he's waking up to the reality of the situation that agencies are full of scammers and professional daters. Even scam agencies.
Scammers ARE getting more sophisticated in their techniques. You need to wake up to that reality too. They are becoming more bold, more brazen. Even robbing in person.
So once again WS backtracking and realizing just how wrong he was / IS.t
LR - WS is as you say a "know it all". You can't tell him anything and he's unwilling to admit when he's wrong. Yet he's an expert and seasoned veteran as you say when it comes to these matters.
The only thing that he's got going for him is that he's not wealthy and he's cheap - so he'll never become the victim of a scam in the traditional way that we think.
He does have a point though that scammers are a real time waster when someone is genuinely looking for love.
When you become so in tune with what a scammer is - you'll be able to instantly recognize them from their first email instead of wasting your time. I can even recognize a scammer from the type face they use in their email or their ip address. I can cover these issues in a future post.
LR - the guy is a bundle of contradictions. He thinks he's an expert but he's just a novice. You can tell that in his posts.
I've been travelling to the FSU for 20 years now. (Not seeking a wife. Read that now WifeSeeker. NOT SEEKING A WIFE).
The first time I travelled there was similar to what college backpackers do. Just travel throughout Europe, only through Eastern Europe.
In my 20 years I've sought after different things - fun and adventure, getting laid or just making new friends. I don't think I've ever deliberately sought after a wife.
Now you'd think that a newbie like WifeSeeker would want to glean advice from those of us with more experience. He doesn't seem to want to do that. He thinks that he knows it all. And he's paid for it with his most recent episode with the girl from Crimea.
The problem with WifeSeeker is that he doesn't want to learn from his mistakes.
I've made mistakes in the past and have learned from them.
WifeSeeker doesn't seem to want to do that. He still thinks he knows it all, rejects others advice in a favour of his amateurish insight.
There is no help for a person like WifeSeeker. He's got to learn for himself. Unfortunately for him though I think may be too late already.
How sad, 3 people making desperate efforts to help each other settle an old score by joining their limited brain power and coming to invade every thread I start, or where I write, with anything they can think of. Pity their 3 IQ scores do not even equal mine. Maybe look for a fourth bugger, if you need another boost to your combined IQ score :-D
Why don't you cut it once and for all? The one thing that gets on your tits is knowing that you are not the 'top dog' that you want to be here. Anybody who dares 'threaten' your imaginary position as the maxium expert in relationships with FSU women is a nuisance that needs to be removed. You know very well that you cannot work out how to develop relationships with FSU women yourself but you think you look clever and an expert by coming to answer to every single posting of mine with any rubbish that comes to your mind to try and prove me wrong.
I do not come here to give 'expert advice'. I tell others what I know and my own opinions and I hope to exchange knowledge with others who have got something to contribute and who are genuinely interested and able in finding an FSU wife. The worst thing for you is knowing that you have got nothing to teach me (or others) other than how not to do things with FSU women.
Just accept that you will never be able to get ride of that thorn on your side and move on.
No MartinPC - you're not allowed to do that. You're not allowed to have fun. You've got to correspond with one girl for 9 months, go see her, act like a clown, have her reject you, come back home and start all over again.
Fun is not allowed. You have to be more like a WifeSeeker.
Scammers? Who cares? In the 3 years I was looking for my fsu wife I got scammed here and there. Probably over 5 trips for $200. Who cares? If you succeed she will cost you 5 times that much per month! Why do people spend thousands on a trip to meet a woman, then drive her off because $6.00 a night extra cost on an apartment? I Don't know you guys, and maybe it's not so, but I don't know any men who have not blown a couple hundred in one night at a casino or a peeler bar. So now you are going to not met the woman you always wanted to save $6.00 pet night as well as show her you don't trust her to make arrangements (with your approval of course? )? You should just stay home and date fat girls for $25 per hour.
Yes, I guess these days it is almost inevitable to get scammed, to some degree, while looking for a FSU wife. The one thing you don't need is to get scammed in a big way, like sending £2000 to a woman to come and visit you and she never turns up.
Even a girl who accepts £10 from you to get back home in a taxi and then takes the bus for £0.50 and keeps the other £9.50 to pay for her Internet service has scammed you a bit. But not to offer a girl to pay for her taxi to get back home, after she spent a day with you until late at night, just because you will not spend that little money on her, that is mean and she will learn that about you too.
I guess allowing a girl to scam you a bit helps you learn about her and what is to come if you marry her. With a girl I went to see in Crimea, I learned about her when she loaded a supermarket trolley with more than we needed for a barbecue we were having that day. I did not make a fuss then but I kept the knowledge about her.
With another girl I know now, I have been discussing her dress sense. She told me she likes to wear sexy and glamorous clothes. I told her that in the UK you can get clothes like this, of good quality, without the need to blow money on brands like Prada or those Jimmy Choo shoes. This way we will know if we agree on things like this well before I even spend money going to see her.
A girl who is expecting her Western husband to spend money on her on designer labels will stop writing to you immediately and save you money on a trip to see her and heartache