i have great relationships with most of my exs, its friendship.
depending on the boyfriends space in their head how these relationships are maintained.
kicking Tomz in the balls for taking a swipe at me isn't constructive to his wifes and my friendship.
that will not help keep what we had,, Tomz feeling threatened shouldnt be happening unless hes a creep.
better if i take Tomz out for a beer, fishing or something.
at least if i really dont like him i have the option of kicking him into the water of no return:) and say he was drunk:)
things always matter, just be wise on how it effects that family,, remember its two people and a child now.
Well, on this one I agree with TomZ, if you have some moron buying your wife presents, he is threatening your whole family, including your child, not yourself, and you have every right to defend it against predators
ok,, i guess i should be a little serious if you are for real 'joey"
Tomz point is on the money, i would feel possibly the same as any normal person would.
in life you should always turn things around and think if it were you in that position as if you were that guy, how would you feel seeing a ex boyfriend sniffing around your wife or girl and then throwing gifts at her?
most people really cannot be trusted so this will only lead to trouble, even if its innocent..
if you have to, gifts have to be for the whole household or not at all, its better not at all.
Joey,,, I canít see a husband not caring at all about who his wife is talking to,,,, unless he doesnít care at all about her,,, or has something on the side himself!
I donít see it stated anywhere about where her husband is from?? US, W-Europe, or is he Ukrainian or Russian. The reason I ask is,,,,, an FSU husband or boyfriend,,, will drive their wife/girl to meet with foreign men, for dating scams. A % of FSU women arenít much more than married escorts! They will happily accept money or whatever gifts you are willing to give them!
All of that time you spent with her,, could have been during her (courtship?) with her current husband?!
And if none of that is true,,,, having an old flame around will ruin a marriage. My first wife had a thing for an ex-boyfriend,,,, and while it didnít influence our marriage,,, it ruined her 2nd marriage. One day out of the blue,,,, I get a call from her 2nd husband,,, and he asked; WTF is it with her and this f-ing #^^%!!! EX?? I had a good laugh,,,, then apologized,,,,, and said,,, some things never change!
My ex couldnít get past things, move on and put it behind her ,,, she would just change the order of importance! If you are important to her today,,,, you may not be tomorrow! She was married and divorced 4 or 5 times!
She called me a couple of years ago,,,,, hoping to find someone to,,,,, service her?? I just shook my head and kept saying: NO! She hadnít changed!
Couple points if it adds any useful information:
1.) As far as I can see they're happily married and don't have problems, both good and not out to scam anyone.
2.) I met her NOT through an agency if that matters, it was a meeting in daily life, and we started a relationship, no dating site involved.
3.) Her husband is Ukrainian and good (rich) family, not super rich but enough....
dating 2 and a half years, in that time a few months me there, and a few months her over here (u.s.) and a few months apart, and she probably wanted more progress faster (starting family) and that played a role in her decision to end it.
Anyway, I see there is no point to be stuck on it and should not get hung up on it.
So, going back to my original point, I just felt like I still wanted to be a part of her life, and since that part is as a close friend now.... then that is it and our past relationship shouldn't even be much of a factor in the friendship
I guess it was just hard to get that but I think I see that and that is that. So there are no scams going here, just my imagination of the past that was bothering me but shouldn't.
Her husband has no reason to distrust her and wants what is good for her. I am not looking to get her back, I just didn't want her to forget what we had but that SHOULDN'T MATTER so I see that.
It is not just you doing something wrong joey, it is also that silly woman. If the husband knows anything about this, he should have a serious conversation with her to tell her to get rid of a pest like you altogether.
It is the same as having an annoying fly hovering all around you when you are trying to enjoy a nice meal.
These women meet tire kickers every day. The average Ukrainian woman wants a husband. They treasure families and their lives very much. If you waited 3 years, dude to a single woman facing living alone her whole life, that's for ever. The age for being over the hill in ukraine is 27. Once a woman his 27 her odds of ever getting married is less than 1%. No shit, if you dated her for 3 years and didn't get engaged, you were just wasting her time
Regarding your wife, you said that you had to get the nerve to write to her and I think you proceeded to write to her hundreds of messages and several times accused her of being a scammer. Was she connected to an agency or an independent lady? Did she try to coax you into the video chat service on this site? Did you do personal email with Skype? If you did, how long did it take before you both moved off this site after first writing to her?
I think women shouldnt have male friends what so ever .
My wife has only girlfriends i love the smell of them i love perving on them i love them visiting .sometime there will be 5 or more hot russians and me . For a man friend would kind of cramp my sleeze. My wife met a russian guy local he was a gay school teacher ... Harmless but still gay or not gay its a man and i told her delete and block ... He was gone instantly . . Another old long time friend of mine made some very innocent sleezey moves at my wife . She told me about it . That guy seems to have disapeared . Probably moved or something . This guy hangging onto his ex as a friend is a bit mixed up in the brain . I feel sad for the girls husband.
I had her but I let her go and I realised the mistake I'd made soon afterwards ... and not for the reason(s) that some of you may be thinking!
Whilst we've had a relationship break-up we've not had a disagreement nor crossed a word with each other, we've remained on speaking terms throughout and as soon as my work commitments permit me to get across to her mainland city then we've agreed on a dinner date with each other to discuss a reconcile!
And P.S. ... She's just a mere 31 years younger than myself.
Dc, no, i never accused her of trying to scam money. Several times things just didn't add up. While I was "sure" I was being set up for a scam I said nothing, just watched. In the end it was always my bad russian, or her bad english. The automatic translator had many opportunities to behave Oddly over that many letters. She was coming to meet me in the Dominican Republic and wrote to tell me what a great deal she found for the night she had to spend in Moscow. It was just $450 usd for one night. I looked and the moscow Hilton is right on the airport and only $185. I told her she should just stay there. She hit the roof about wasting money! The translator changed hyvrina to dollars.
She was fiance.com, agency girl from the first minute. She joined because a friend of hers got married and moved to Washington. The woman running the agency in donetsk was named Julie, a very nice woman. Who knows what's up there now.
She never asked me to video chat and didn't even skype for 6 months. I told her to open another free e mail just for me. If it didn't work out she could just abandon the address. She liked that idea and then i got her real address after about 5 months.
We used the membership free translator for maybe 3 months.
All I've got say is I have married the most wonderful woman on earth. A woman who simply would not exist in the us.
I could not even imagined a woman as sweet and kind as her
Thanks for the clarification. The USA Today newspaper had a recent article about a 75 year old woman who was still living in a bombed apartment complex in Donetsk. Water service was cut off and she just went around looking for things to eat. Only very few businesses were still open. I see the "proxy" email address system that she and you set up. I guess it prevents your regular email inbox from getting cluttered and also keeps it private if you want to "dump" the other person.
Did you get a lot of video chat requests from random ladies who you never wrote to on the site? It seems that most of the first contact has been made by the lady whether it is the free, monthly fee, or pay per letter sites. The few times that I write first, I do not get any replies.
The few that gave me their personal email address do not seem to want to communicate that way (other than the scammers). It seems that it was not that hard for the two of you to migrate off this site after just three months. I guess her agency did not mind?
Looks like you got very close to one another in less than a year. Lucky you.