TomZ wrote " If you can't get on with her in her country, how in the world are you going to live together in your country? "
If I found the right girl and I was sure that it would last then I would marry a girl tomorrow.
Success is NOT getting married. I felt freedom when I divorced because it wasnt meant to be.
I spend 25% or more of my time in Ukraine so now I meet girls like anyone else, the same way as in USA.
Not been on a dating site in nearly 2 years except for this forum of which I am still registered but just dont have time to devote going the internet route
when they are all around me.
To me, success is finding a pretty girl that I get along and have fun with and enjoy spending time with. It may last 2 years or 6 months. I met a young girl and we have hit it off well. The only thing she has ever asked for so far is a new coat which was only 80 bucks. She doesnt want an expensive restaurant unless I suggest it and we spend many evenings cooking at home as she likes trying American/Mexican food. Cinema, club or bowling just like in US only she is younger and prettier than available American girls.
On top of that, living in Ukraine is cheap. At 36k per year you can live a very good upper middle class lifestyle inn a nicer apartment and good mid price car and still plenty of spending money. If you have a successful business at home that doesn't need 24/7 attention. go one month with and one month home.
Bottom line is still this. If you cant dedicate the time or money for your supposedly serious quest then why do it at all
That is right, marriage is not for everyobdy, there is no obligation to get married and I think there is no stigma in society anylonger, against an umarried person.
If a guy is looking for a wife,,,,, a real and lasting marriage is the only standard you can go by! Quite often, men will,,,, “lower the bar” if you will, to make themselves feel like less of a failure.
For some time now my search has been on hold,,,, not sure if I want to start a family at my age. Not sure if I should look for someone in their 20’s and 30’s,,, or “settle” for a woman in her 40’s.
I’ve never liked the thought of settling!
I understand what you say about success but, are you able to see things from the ladies' point of view?
From what they have told me and what they have written most FSU ladies consider that success (in looking for a foreign man) is marrying a Western man and going to live with him in his country.
For men, the number one complain about FSU women is the scammers. For the FSU women their number one complaint is lack of commitment by men and why should they put up with it from older fat men in the West, when they can get that at home with younger good looking men, some of them with money?
Many of these women have already been married and dumped for a younger model. For men the red flags about FSU women are things like asking for money. For women the red flags are about men avoiding questions of long term commitment or marriage as a result of their involvement with them.
I have not talked to many girls who say they do not want marriage. About 90% of women on my dating site click on marriage where they are asked what they are looking for. Some 10% click on friendship, pen pal or dating.
The ones that say they only want dating or friends usually want a sponsor, preferably with him staying a few thousand miles away from them. Then there are the professional daters. Of course, scammers, professional daters and time wasters click on marriage too.
So I think it is possible to find girls who only want to live together or date in her country or yours but we have already established that this cannot be done in the man's country so that option is for the few men who can go to live in the lady's country.
A relationship with both staying in their respective countries is not a true relationship. It simply cannot work.
I cringe when I see the word 'success' used to describe dating, marriage, emotions, feelings..
I know too many 'successful' marriages that are now divorced!!!!
As far as relationships...isn't a friendship the biggest part of being in a relationship? I avoid profiles that list looking for 'marriage' solely. Better to see a profile looking for long term relationship that can/would lead to marriage.
If I go for those who are into long term relationships that can lead to marriage, then I do not have the same amount of free time left as the younger person (assuming average life expectancy). The younger men have more options.
Success is (1) living life happily together (2) splitting up amicably (3) ending badly, getting everything and seeing the scamming bitch pushing a shopping cart with dirty feet. I choose option (1), but formerly was handed option (3) with a local cunt.
He did not clarify his statement. He meant to say "Your only could be someone in their 50s..."
I also get annoyed when I or someone else takes shortcuts. As Virginia Reed said after having survived the Donner Party winter season stay near Lake Tahoe in the Sierras, "Remember, never take no cutoffs ".
WS,
If you like trail and errors relationships, then meet a lady from the EU. Ladies that are looking to resettle in the UK are online and easy to talk with. I am suggesting women from the PIGS countries or/ and eastern Europe,(not visa needed) but as i learned from a buddy getting rid off a squander when things go wrong is aw pain in the butt. I was talking to a girl from Romania looking for a new life her in but dyer a few Skype chats I dropped her for lack of interest.
If I go for those who are into long term relationships that can lead to marriage, then I do not have the same amount of free time left as the younger person (assuming average life expectancy). The younger men have more options.
So you are more in favor of OWW????
I do think best decisions are made in time, time is always on your side( except for dinosaurs).
poo poo head! yup, sounds like a perfect 10 year old who doesnt want "competition" from anyone.
We dont often discuss here some aspects of FSU dating. If your kids arent "down with it" then there is potential
for disaster even after you find the right girl. If you have kids then it doesnt matter if you have the perfect "system" to find a wife if they are against the idea.
My kids dont have an issue with me having a girlfriend, wife or whatever. Because of how spoiled they are, they are more worried about
what additional kids might come into our home. they are nervous because I have at least 2 coming home to US from Ukraine when I return Dec 19 for Christmas holiday.
just an off topic reminder, xaxa.
you may know how to find your woman but if your kids at home are not with you then you are inviting more problems!