Are there cases where men really 'asked for it' and/or deserved it? Or is it the case that this should never happen?
What about men with appalling behaviour who encounter a scammer along the way? I do not want to pass judgment on him, but the man calle 4re, who some people may remember, could be a candidate for one that deserved it. My view is that his boasting about his money to women he met online and then going to meet one of them thinking he could buy her with expensive presents and dates led him to his disastrous encounter with the girl. The girl obviously lured him to visit her with the promise of kinky sex, in their webcam conversations and he knew what the visit was about. If he could get the girl long term (even as a wife) too, then fine.
Apart from going there to get sex, there are likely to be other cases of men with bad behaviour like liars about the number of women they are going to see, their having no intention to comit or even worse: wanting to get an FSU lady to take her back home and treat her like dirt or even get her into porn or even prostitution. Do any of these men deserve to get scammed when they are outwitted by a skilled scammer?
I suport the scammers i think they are a good thing . People like lonelyranger should never have a nice fsu girl . Scammers actually protect the good girls from these scumbag men . If no scammers where there then the lonely type of arswipe would just have easy pickings . Guys like martin would actually be married . Guys like ragin bull that preys on underage kids would be married and molesting there children . Take a look here are three scumbags that have failed thanks to scammeers ...
Three chears for scammers and three chears for all the scum thats failed in the fsu.
Absolutely! I know a guy thats been coming to Odesa for 9 years now. He just retired in June. He STILL blows his money on 20 somethings, hoping to get a young wife. He deserves every $50-100 dinners and $300 shopping trips he buys them.
Guys who come to Ukraine with fairy tale dreams need to just get the reality check done on his first visit.
expensive dinners, shopping, paying for her taxi and while he is at it he needs to fall for the dropped wallet or heart attack/drunk man scam too.
Once you have spent a "little time" in Ukraine you are amazed at just how many guys are coming
I had not seen it from your point of view: yes the genuine FSU ladies are saved from coarse and stupid men like LONELY by the scammers. He has decided that all women in agencies are scammers. He will not admit it but I am sure he now hates all FSU (or at least Ukrainian) women because of the way it has been so easy for scammers to exploit his stupidity.
So he now says (I hope it is a promise) that he will never try to find an FSU wife again but the problem is the way he talks about these women to newbies here who clearly have the intention to commit to an FSU girl in the form of marrying her or going to her.
It is evident the way he sees women and the way he must talk to them, judging by the way this low life and mentally ill individual talked about my daughter here.
Are you sure this guy who keeps going to Odessa is not just going there to pay for fun, and is not actively looking for a wife anylonger?
That would make him a sex tourist rather than an unrealistic Romeo.
"the dropped wallet or heart attack/drunk man scam too"
What are these, can you tell us so that we do not fall for these either?
A scam is just a spanking for the guy being foolish. I got scammed out of a sushi dinner in Odessa. She just used me to eat a free dinner but you what? That taught me a very important lesson. NEVER let her choose the place. Now I take just to a simple place like Coffee Life. If that's not good enough for her then adios amigo! When they demand anything on a date - taxi, expensive restaurant it's adios bitch.
Someone said, Well then you're missing out on... No I'm not! I'm only missing out on pro-daters.
On another note. I know of a Brit who owns a hostel in Odessa. He's in his 50s, he's fat, he farts, he stinks, he's utterly disgusting and yet he has a 19 yr old girlfriend because he buys her the latest iPhones, iPads and takes her to fashionable restaurants. So anything is possible even if you're utterly disgusting. By the way this guy has on his hostel website, Don't come here if you're looking for a mail order bride. What a hypocrite!
To counter all of the BS and lies,,, I’ll need to alter my writing style!
Poopy/danny42/Dunt,,, He’s been taken for more than anyone here,,, 35,000 in one heist! Women die getting away from him!
Rick,,, that guy you speak of probably has a better life plan than you! Have you thought about adopting your wives?? It’s easier and cheaper, and you could have all four to play daddy with!
WS,,,, Success stories are few and far in between! I know I’m getting older,,,, and a memory can slip from time to time,,,, but I absolutely don’t remember any success stories from you!! But,, I could be wrong,,,, so prove your success to us!
No, I don’t hate all of the FSU! If you could understand anything,,, you might realize, that all of the former Soviet Union countries are fighting for their lives,,,, and sooner or later,, it will affect the rest of Europe and the West. As for the people,,,,, scammers are pretty much consolidated in the agencies.
What “”I”” have said,,,, is that I will no longer play the agency game!!! 99.99% of the women in these agencies are scammers,,, or women willing to let the agencies and their employees scam of their behalf.
Exploited? Are you referring to the taxi?? I knew at the time that it was bogus. I was offered to pay for her taxi,,,, or travel to her hometown,,,, I chose to pay! My trip consisted of two countries and 5 cities,,, I was tired of traveling.
If you are concerned about scamming,,,, it happens to every guy that buys a plane ticket!! EVERY GUY!!!!
Hell,,, it’s every guy that pays for a letter, pays for a membership, and especially any guy that pays for chat!! EVERY GUY!!
Your daughter again?? She is smart and honest,,,, learn to live with it Mr. Poo Poo Head!!
"a highly undesirable circumstance; the state in which fucktards are doomed to continually exist. Paradoxically, fucktards (consciously or unconsciously) also perpetuate the state of fucktardation everywhere they go. Thus, the fucktard essentially functions as a living virus of fucktardation."
When somebody who obviously looks like a foreigner goes to a public place like a restaurant, chosen by a local FSU girl, very often they start getting people turning to look at them and start whispering. I wonder what they say: "There is the next victim of that girl who is always here"
Maybe that is a warning people should look at but if it is only men doing this, it could be envy.
Like I said in another thread, maybe getting scammed, but not in a big way like 4re and not several times, is a way for men to look more carefully for the lady of their dreams so maybe scams are also part of the learning process.
Hah hah! I wonder if there is a market for mentally ill winos in Ukraine. Isn't it always winos who set about screaming and swearing when you make it clear to them they are not wanted?
"On another note. I know of a Brit who owns a hostel in Odessa. He's in his 50s, he's fat, he farts, he stinks, he's utterly disgusting and yet he has a 19 yr old girlfriend because he buys her the latest iPhones, iPads and takes her to fashionable restaurants. So anything is possible even if you're utterly disgusting. By the way this guy has on his hostel website, Don't come here if you're looking for a mail order bride. What a hypocrite!"
Really? a guy who has decided that FSU girls are only there for sex, what a hypocrite
Quite often what a restaurant will do is put their girls (waitresses, hosts, whoever) into agency and dating sites. These girls will lead their victim to this restaurant. (They insist on this restaurant and only this.)
Once you are there with your 'date' they have very specific pro-dater menus. These are fashionable dishes that run around $80-$100 a plate. Your pro-dater will hardly touch a thing on her plate and sometimes order two dishes.
The wine menus are equally expensive. A cheap counterfeit wine is usually substituted for the real thing. The same thing with designer waters.
The guy will sheepishly order something cheap off the menu or just a drink so not to run the bill up too much.
After your done your waiter will bring you your bill usually running $300-$400.
The best way to avoid this is to refuse to go with your date to a place of her choosing.
One pro dater tried this on me once in Kiev. Before we entered the restaurant I said to her, You can order what you want but you have to pay for what you order yourself. You should have seen the look on her face. Needless to say we didn't continue the date. I saved myself an exorbitant bill and a waste of time with a pro-dater.
“Quite often what a restaurant will do is put their girls (waitresses, hosts, whoever) into agency and dating sites. These girls will lead their victim to this restaurant. (They insist on this restaurant and only this.)”
While I’m sure that could happen,,, what does happen quite often,, is agencies and interpreters giving guys “”discount cards””,,, which sounds good,,, but really isn’t. I asked an interp, how much of a discount is it?? 0.5%! What the card really is,,, is to give the agency a cut of the revenue, from dinner and your hotel. I had a card one time,,,,, I only used it the one time,,,,, and made believe I used it after.