I'd previously used 'Interdating' about 5 years ago to meet one girl. I think it cost me $40 and we had a great night, followed by a great week. It didn't work out long term but it was $40 well spent for the intro on a whim whilst staying near their office.
I'm back in Kiev in 2 days time. Have VK girls to meet whilst on business, but saw a profile I liked on Interdating and enquired. So the price for just an in office introduction is now 100 Euro.
Is that the most expensive around? I'm sure there are matchmakers who charge more for their 'service' but for a one off introduction is that the highest?
Clearly not paying that, just curious if others are in that ballpark.
100 euro for an introduction????? wow, someone is trying to eat for a month on that fee.
never would I pay that unless she was a 10 and there was a written guarantee she would screw me all night long.
You can have an escort for half that with an equal chance of long term results. many escorts are as willing to find a long term partner as those on dating sites
It's amazing how cheap guys are nowadays. They spend thousands on air/hotel but they don't want to spend a nickel on meeting a beautiful woman. I've looked at the site interdating and some of the women are pretty nice.
That office that they rent in Kiev. That's not for free. It costs money.
It's amazing how guys nowadays want everything for cheap. Everything for free.
Let me get this straight Rick4girl. I can hardly believe what I'm reading.
You're saying in order to circumvent agency fees, one should go to an escort agency, hire a prostitute, have sex with her presumably for the money he's paid, then propose to her to have a 'long term relationship' ?
Is that what you're saying?
Is this how you met your current girlfriend on the street?
to pay and to over pay for a service is two different things. I think the fee at a lot of agency's is still around 50 dollars. All of the agency fees I have seen are close that price even today. I for one only paid one agency one time since it is to easy to meet without an agency. I do see value in an arranged or guided tour as it is called but just to pay an agency to arrange a date as we Americans call it is little much. Agency's make commission the same way I do as in selling getting a percentage of the sales they generate, they also get commission from apartment and translator fees also. A lot of agency's will also sell tours to a nearby place of interest to include transportation as a way to make money. I guess the introduction fee allows you to do a last minute arrangement but I would say 50 dollars is a fair price but 100 euros would have to include interpreter for a few days also. Kyiv is only more expensive for tourists and not really locals.
"Rick4girl you want a long term relationship with a hooker, a prostitute? a whore?"
I am making a point. 100Euro for an introduction???? And the odds of success being what they are???
If youre just going to P%$$ off 100 euro anyway might as well get your money's worth. The idea of the hooker being
any less available than an agency girl is a sarcastic jab because many of the girls on the agency site are
also featured on a sex site too.
As bowhunter said, $50 is reasonable and is still what my friend's agency charges for personal introduction.
"Guys pay $5000-$7000 for tours." And 99.9% of them go home alone and broke! the agency tour is probably the biggest scam out there.
You're comparing apples and oranges Rick4girl. You're saying that because I can buy a prostitute and get laid for less than 100 EUR, the price of an introduction to a potential life partner should be less than the price of a lay in the hay with some hooker.
Doesn't make much sense.
But again you are unable to separate apples from oranges.
Introduction, matchmaking, romance tours are just complex and costly ways to end up with Pro's and semi pro's. If you are going for mongering no need of planning anything, just go find the hunting grounds ( bars,pubs, nightclubs) of the WG or the websites and negotiate price. This is a very quick process but also have quite a bit of risks in Eastern Europe.
In my opinion , its a very expensive and risky way to get laid.
If you go for regular girls, it is a difficult road but it is possible, you need a good game. Stay away from the hunting places of the WG (bar, pub, nightclub) and potential hard scammers (Girlfriend-boyfriend pissed off). Focus on public places, you take care of your own introduction. Prepare yourself to be rejected and blown off but the reward will be a lot better when you succeed.
TomZ wrote "The guys that are able to afford $5-$7K for a tour it's nothing to them. "
not true, in Looney's article on another thread it speaks of guys working extra shifts, overtime and other sacrifices to get the money required for these scam tours. And dont think there isnt WGs there also because they attend every one and zero in on those that dont look like they are having success o or other easy marks.. Often the guys dont realize they have a WG until they are seduced and their boner wont let the girl leave so they pay!
AFA and Anastasiadate have lots of WG on their sites. Often, they are the NFL of pro daters because they will do what the snooty girls wont do and they will do it 110% Lets be real, sex sells everything. A guy is very much more likely to part with benjamins on a girl who says she loves him and shows him twice a day than one who continues to tease and never puts out.
The general rule of thumb in Ukraine is if you aren't having sex by the third date chances are she is a scamming pro dater tease or a lesbian.
of course its also possible the girl who screws you twice a day over 10 days while you are there and makes you fall in love could also be a pro
but then again she is so good at her craft she makes the typical pro daters look like rank amateurs.. She really wont ask for anything but you will
give it to her because she makes you fall in love.
Ive seen all of them. All kinds of scams and the best ones are those that make you fall in love with them.
TomZ wrote "The guys that are able to afford $5-$7K for a tour it's nothing to them. "
good for them but, stil these expensive quest doesn't equates to success....
My last trip to Kishinev
So far my intro cost was
Air tickets $260.00 from STN
Apartment $ 40.00 per day
Meals and incidentals < 500.00
That's on a 2 weeks stay but it was a bit more from a trip to Poltava earlier in the year.
And save the rest of that $7k for her relocation and making babies scheme!!!
For < $5k embark on any decent cruise chip ....have fun , meet people onboard and on port , get lucky and plenty of good memories.
Many of the guys who do take the tours are first timers and are afraid to travel alone. Others like the group experience.
Others as I mentioned don't mind the expense and like everything together in one neat package. That is what these tour companies provide. Yes, many of the girls that attend the socials are escorts and I get the feeling that some of these guys don't mind.
There's been a TV production or few regarding these "Romance Socials" and my general impression has been that the guys have fallen for the marketing and advertising, the "mail order bride" labelling, that all they need to do is part with a few thousand dollars on a tour and they'll be returning home with a wife.
In the old days, I think it was an Americanism, guys would talk of "interviewing" these ladies ... f*ck me, one doesn't interview them, if two people like each other they go on dates, jump in the sack together, these guys were regarding them as job applicants :)
my last trip to Sumy cost me over 26,000 for airfare travel and a new apartment. the worst part is I was not on the trip just my wife. it is normal for me to spend around 2-3 thousand if it is just me traveling for two weeks. I normally only spend a couple days in Kyiv on my way out. We as in the oldest son and me normally plan an excursion to someplace interesting to get pictures and articles than we head back to kyiv for the flight. My wife goes to Sumy visits family then meets us in Kyiv. on a few occasions we have spent a week in Sumy but it seems there is a lengthy process to visit family that takes quite a few days to accomplish. In the old room we had it was difficult to do with all of us so we wind up renting a place for a few days. for 2 weeks it is normal to spend as much as 500 dollars on apartments if we stay in Kyiv.
Just to clarify my post - the 100Euro is only to be introduced in the office. I am well aware how expensive it is to search and date and have no issues with that. the question was, is this the most expensive for just an office introduction? Not a date, just a meet in the office.
TomZ - I had dealt with Natali previously and never again.