When you go for a date with a girl from the agency she will insist to have her own interpreter. You know what it means? She makes money on you.
Here is the scheme from the agencies: you pay, let’s say” $20 per hour. $5 goes to the agency, $10 to the interpreter and $5 to the girl you are meeting with. And the girl you are meeting with might be able to speak English by herself.
Tell her that you have your own interpreter. If she gets sad about it she is in the scam scheme. If she insists to have her own interpreter, she is probably needs only money from you.
Of course there is a little possibility that she is just to shy and she needs her person to feel more comfortable. But this is the main reason scammers use to make you pay them. You see, your own interpreter will act on your behalf and can identify a scammer right there just watching her and speaking to her. This is what scammers are afraid of.
If your Lady still insists to have her own interpreter giving a hell of different reasons (shyness, fear of a stranger, agency’s demand, etc.) offer her to have 2 interpreters – yours and hers.
If she rejects this too (in case you still want to meet her) hire a hidden interpreter. It means your man will seat next table listening to all your chats. It is the best way to identify a scammer. They think you don’t speak Russian so they will communicate with each other and reveal a lot of information in Russian. You can leave them several times for different reasons for a couple of minutes. And during this time they will definitely share their emotions and impressions about you. Which will tell you about the girl’s real intentions.
Within an hour you will know everything you need about the girl.
I was with a girl who spoke almost no English. But, we understood each other with the important things, just fine. I think it could have worked, since she had a computer. I stayed in another bedroom in her flat. We came home every night. She allowed me to look at stuff on her computer like emails and stuff.
I had spent four days with her when I suggested we both got to her computer and talked with each other through the web translator. There were only one or two things that needed clearing up that I knew of. Perhaps there was more. She would not do it. She said we will go see "Irina" at the agency.
Translators cost money. The money you spend on translators can go to having a good time with her. If she is serious about you, she will watch your expenditures, because if you get married, your money can be hers too, someday.
I have never had this problem because when I was dating (fielding candidates) my requirement was that she could speak conversational English. No interpreters.
I remember once I met a girl in Odessa who spoke no English at all. We just communicated via hand gestures and little words here and there in English and Russian. I would not have paid an interpreter for her anyway. She wasn't appealing. We literally walked around a few blocks in Odessa near Afina and then parted. No café, no restaurant. No nothing. She came by bus and took the bus home.
An independent interpreter is always a good idea!
damn Armin, forgot all about you and Ive been in Nikolaev until this evening!
we absolutely need to meet up one day!
Meeting only those who speak English means to cut your search range at least twice. But that's up to you."
Absolutely it cuts range by half, maybe more. My last girlfriend and my current girlfriend do not speak English but both are learning quickly being with me.
Rick, I agree but for a long term partner I have to only consider those who can speak my language otherwise I will have to learn to speak conversational Russian.
I've had plenty of one - three night stands where we couldn't communicate at all with each other. Other than the sex the relationship got pretty boring fast.
Fortunately my current girlfriend from Ukraine has fluent English.
You guys got to understand. Those who are pushing interpreters are just trying to get money out of you. Money for taxi, money for interpreter, pay in the restaurant. In the end you will get nothing.
You can only be long term with someone you can communicate with.
Armin(Bonddd)'s post is clever but in the end he is still endorsing the use of interpreters which I totally reject.
Either you learn to speak her language or she learns to speak yours.
While only dating women who can speak some english does cut your numbers down, it also selects the most motivated and serious ones. They actually made an effort to help them reach their goals.
Folks, it is needless to repeat this over and over. It doesn't make sense; so therefore, we can determine that people who needs an interpreter is for the purpose of hiring or contracting a lady for companionship or to take her as his mistress. The poor baster may have have deep pockets or is a psychopath!
I have no pity for those individuals that comes to any forum and cry wolf when the ladies outsmart an old devil.
I don't speak sign language, so either she speaks English or Spanish!
According to the news media "Be alert and avoid large crowds" . ISIS or some lunatic like the one in Tunisia, is going to take advantage of our patriotism.
" armin(Bonddd)'s post is clever but in the end he is still endorsing the use of interpreters which I totally reject. "
If you limit your search to only English speakers then you are losing out on the best girls and that
is a 100% FACT. It still amazes me that you guys come here expecting that you will find English speaking girls in a country in which its not the common language and never bothering to learn her language.
I think you deserve what you get. Those who speak English know that they can snag a foreigner and use him to thier advantage. You are coming to a foreign country. Did it ever fu*&ing occur to you that perhaps you should make an effort to learn her language??? If thats too difficult for you then perhaps a blood sucking American girl is what you really deserve
Most people in the FSU and other foreign countries learn English to make more money. The big question is,,,,, will it be a legal or illegal way? Better pay for those working at jobs that require interaction with the western world, and big bucks scamming too.
Learning a second language is a good way to improve one’s self,,, but it is an necessity to the person doing the moving into a foreign land.
If you are only thinking with your short term,,,,,, understanding the other may not be important, but if you want a lasting relationship, understanding is key.
During my time in Ukraine,, I found truth and sincerity to be in short supply! An information vacuum! It’s been years since my last trip,,,, and I still think about some of the dates,,, and remember being hungry for info! To be a fly on the wall, or a spider under the table, I’d like to know what is really going on during a date.
We haven’t talked about it much lately, but years ago, the role and honesty of the interpreters was a huge issue. The interp basically controls the date, winning or losing could be up to her. She might drag out one date/meeting, by letting you think, you have a chance with the girl, just to clock some extra hours. Or,,, every date could fail, so she can save you for herself?!! I’ve been proposed to by an interpreter already.
Dating only English speaking women might sound like a smart idea,,, but you could be dismissing 2/3 of the women, and like I said above,, they have different reasons for learning English. Do you want to meet a scammer, doctor, lawyer, etc? Or, a simple person? To me,,, as long as she has a good education and some common sense, I don’t care where she lives or what job that she has,,,, within reason of course.
Most guys will spend months communicating with the girl,,, then make the long trip to the FSU,,, why cheap out on the precautions?? For the one girl,,, I’d still pay big bucks to learn the real truth about her!! Maybe $50 back in 2009 could have saved me a lot of heartache??
To search for English speaking ladies, you need to go to places like Canada, UK, Australia/NZ, and some places where English is taught as part of the school curriculum like the Philippines, Hong Kong, India. Though English is widely spoken around the world, there are many locales where it is not used. And where people do not routinely use the language in everyday life, it will be not be common among the population.
Look at the large number of Latinos that know little English who live in this country. It boils down to chemistry and whether you feel comfortable with the other person in daily living. I think common attitudes and goals are more important than common language.
"To search for English speaking ladies, you need to go to places like Canada, UK, Australia/NZ, and some places where English is taught as part of the school curriculum like the Philippines"
You're joking aren't you?
In Philippines, if they speak it, they speak American, I'm from London, nobody speaks plainer English than I, here they can't understand a damn word I'm saying.
When I'm shopping I pretty much need a self service store or to shop online, I know what I want to buy in English but often I have no idea what they may call it in American.
My girlfriend, the other day, asked if I can speak Visayan, I joked with her "Yes darling, I know how to say I love you" ... It's "Tang tang panties" :)
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