Rick,,, where have you been? How did your meeting with Texiee go?
I haven’t heard of any states being under 18 until you mentioned it here in the past a few times. I thought it was 18 through out.
I don’t know how they would handle that,,, if they would go by your home state,,, or declare 18 for everyone??
The goal was to curb sex tourism to countries that had a younger age. This happened during GWB’s years.
See also: PROTECT Act of 2003
Some countries have age of consent laws which apply not only to acts committed within the country, but also to those committed by its citizens or inhabitants while they are on foreign soil. For example, a federal United States law bans sexual activity by its citizens with foreigners or with US citizens from another state, if the partner is under 18 and the activity is illegal under the federal, state or local law. This applies in cases where any of the partners travels into or out of the United States, or from one state into another, for the purpose of an illegal sexual encounter.”
“The PROTECT Act of 2003 (Pub.L. 108–21, 117 Stat. 650, S. 151, enacted April 30, 2003) is a United States law with the stated intent of preventing child abuse. "PROTECT" is a backronym which stands for "Prosecutorial Remedies and Other Tools to end the Exploitation of Children Today".
The PROTECT Act incorporates the Truth in Domain Names Act (TDNA) of 2003 (originally two separate Bills, submitted by Senator Orrin Hatch and Congressman Mike Pence), codified at 18 U.S.C. § 2252(B)(b).”
As with many US laws the key phrase id "knowingly and intentionally"
Lets say you lived in a state where AOC is 16. no problem. If you are working in another state where AOC is 16 but you are across state lines. The question becomes did you travel to that state for the purpose of sex or was it incidental.
The same thing can be said for expats or visitors to countries with a low AOC such as Spain and Mexico(14) or even Ukraine. The way the law is worded, if you are working on some business venture as an American and you just happen to have sex with a minor, its not necessarily a criminal act per se. The USA would need to prove you went to said country with the expressed intention of having sex with a minor. There have only been a few prosecutions under this statute and they have been rather high profile because the ones prosecuted have obviously been sex tourists with no other ties to the countries they were visiting/working/living. A US contractor in Honduras escaped prosecution for this because he was working in country for another purpose although it was obvious he was actively seeking out very young girls. He was prosecuted for several other crimes in country but not for the sex.
I wont comment on any meeting with another member here. If I spent time with you, LR, in Ukraine, its no ones damn business. I will say that I have now met 4 forum members in Ukraine.
On another side note, about 2 weeks ago, we busted 4 of our "foster" girls who had signed up to marriage agencies and other sites and had been extorting money from stupid men over past few months. I mean really??? giving money to someone you haven't met??? Proving to me yet again that there are still alot of stupid western men!!! nastya at 16 had collected over $1900!!! Although she was punished for a week her excuse says it all. "they are just stupid perverts who want a young girl, why I cannot take money from them?"
It reinforces several messages. The person you are communicating with may not be real or who you think they are.(Nastya WAS using Skype) NEVER send money to someone you have never met and if it seems to good to be true, it probably is. Even if you find them on FB or VK, doesnt mean they are real or honest!
I read several of the conversations they were having and all I can say was just "WOW"
LR, 2 of them you have seen in photos. You cannot imagine some of the photos these girls had on these fake profiles!
Rick,,, it really doesn’t say, that if you are a resident from a AOC 16 state, that you are okay in a AOC 16 country! I couldn’t find anything different. They keep stating 18 as the age for Americans. A guy from a AOC 16 state would have a good argument for defense.
One worry,,, is that if a guy gets caught “pink handed”,,, that he could be blackmailed by local police.
Rick,,, I don’t need details about Texiee,,, I just want to know if he is real??
I post this info to keep guys out of jail,,, but some seem bothered by it?! It’s as if, it questions their legitimacy about their reasons for visiting Ukraine?
TomZ,,, the only thing that I was unaware of,, is how many states in the US have the age of “16” for their AOC!
How does that have ANYTHING to do with finding someone?? I’ve NEVER searched for anyone under 18,,,, 21 to be honest.
Why are YOU making such a big deal out of this,,,, are YOU looking for teenagers??
The reason for me not knowing about the AOC in other states,,, is that I’ve never needed to travel for sex!
You’re gone 6 months a year,,, the max allowed in Ukraine?? You needed to travel that much to have someone?? Oh,, that’s right,, you don’t have anyone anymore!!