Ahhh,, bless his dunted little heart, he created a thread just for me?!
TomZ: “Now let me ask the good folks in here, who has ever gone to Kyiv to hire a hooker?”
Do you really expect people to come forward and admit that??
During my time in Ukraine, I only met 2 or 3 other men doing the agency letter thing. All the rest were there for “fun and games”!! That doesn’t automatically mean hookers, but it’s girls willing to put out and party. I remember guys telling me about making a call,,, and the girls show up!! What should we call them? Call Girls??
TomZ: “MOST GUYS? I'll bet you will not find one guy in this forum who has ever done that.”
Actually,,, I already know one from this forum,,,, and he said something like:,,, I’ve used escorts in the past,, but for other reasons.
TomZ: “lonelyranger1701 is not dealing in reality. he's dealing in his own failed world of rejection that has caused him to turn to hookers.”
Caused him to turn to hookers?? No TuntZ! I like looking at them,,, if they want to strut their stuff in front of me, so be it.
I must have really hit a nerve with you?? So,, are you worried that your girl is spending her free time hooking,,,, or are you a regular customer??
I thought, or I was hoping, we had got past, matured on from, the "XXX is a liar" nonsense.
We've had "ragingbull is a liar", "TomZ is a liar", we now have "lonelyranger1701 is a liar", people could thread "MartinPC is a liar", indeed I could thread "Tom Shea is a liar" but, quite honestly, I believed we were supposed to be mature adults around these here parts.
As a result of such shite ragingbull and TomZ had their forum posts put up for approval before appearing, only 2 or 3 days ago TomZ PM'd me asking if I could have a word with admin for his posts to become "live" again.
And then he starts a thread like this ... GET A LIFE!
Since when do we call someone with a different opinion a liar??
He seems to be awfully desperate to strike this claim down, and you just have to wonder why?
I know what I have seen, and I know what I have heard! And if it’s not true,,,, then why are all of those hookers waiting around in the hotel lobbies?? Free Wi Fi??
Martin: “Then what are you going to achieve by challenging him?”
TomZ is calling me a liar,,, I feel the need to dispel that lie!
Tom is going to battle over some thing that is completely obvious! For the links, just google “sex tours Ukraine”!
“Our Sex Tours
We offer you spend time there in the company of our pretty and friendly GiA MODELS. We are suggesting at your opinion the following packages :
I N T E R N A T I O N A L T R A V E L P A C K A G E
GiA models will gladly accompany you in a trip in either Ukraine or another country. Your time will be full of pleasure and relaxation with our ladies. Below you can find the conditions of organization of the shared trip:”
Escort are possible an the territory of Ukraine, Russia, Turkey, Arab Emirates and abroad. Girls can travel to countries, where a visa is not a problem.
We promise that you will have more fun, more often on this sex in Ukraine travel tour vacation than even you can imagine. The sexy models are beautiful, are ready, willing, and able to fulfill your wildest dreams. Most of our clients take our sex in Ukraine tours on an impulse, but once the tour is complete, we become good friends and they take our sex tours Ukraine over and over again.
Some of our clients even come back with friends to experience the perfect sex Ukraine. Best Ukrainian escort models for you!”
I guess TomZ was born yesterday!
The next thing he’ll start to say, is why do I know all of this?? It only takes seconds to google! And I’ve watched it happen!
I know about people buying tickets to Mars too,,,, but I have no plans of going!
And I thought Tom Shea to be the forum's leading authority on world prostitution.
A lawyer once advised me that, when my true name and identity became badmouthed, literally libelled, in a national newspaper, and I was considering legal action regarding, that today's news is tomorrow's fish & chip wrappers, best advice ever.
TomZ hasn't identified YOU as a liar, merely a handle 'lonelyranger1701', gee he doesn't even know your true identity, leave this thread alone and it will soon become lost in the archives to become 'fish & chip' material.
Now let's look at this logically. LR stated, "Kyiv,,, because let’s face it, most guys go there for the hookers."
He said MOST guys. If he had said some guys, I would have left it at that but he said MOST. Yes, there are some like him who are complete failures with women who would go on such kind of sex tours. Undoubtedly and that's the only way they can get it is by paying for it.
Ever wonder why LR is such an expert on these matters? If it quacks like a duck then it's a friggin duck!
MOST guys who are into the romance thing go there to find a girlfriend or a wife, not some prostitute. They can buy one at home if that's what they're into.
Now stop lying in the 4um looney because you are not going to go unchallenged.
TomZhiter is ranting on a no-nonsense cause he got nothing better to do since the girlfriend left him and he can't afford a "hooker". Get a life self-righteous-MoFo.....it had been said many moons ago, that the price of an American pie is dinner and movie if that too expensive wait till 100K refugees from the Middle East come to the USA.
TomZ: “He said MOST guys. If he had said some guys, I would have left it at that but he said MOST.”
TomZ: “Now stop lying in the 4um looney because you are not going to go unchallenged.”
“some [stressed, sum unstressed, səm]
CORE-MEANING: a grammatical word used to indicate an unspecified or unknown quantity of people or things”
CORE-MEANING: a grammatical word indicating nearly all or the majority of the people or things mentioned”
TomZ: “I'm not denying that guys use hookers.”
TomZ: “even going to the point of saying that my girlfriend might be hooking while I'm not here.”
No TomZ,,, I asked if you were worried she might be one!! There is a difference!
Knowing how cheap you are,,, I wouldn’t be surprised if she might need to turn tricks if ever in a bind. She won’t get any support out of you.
TomZ: “ There might be one or two weirdos who do that granted”
I think you would be very surprised as to whom has already admitted using one!
I remember two more letter writers on a plane to Lughansk,,, so that’s four,,, and none of them were staying in Kyiv.
When I said “most” I didn’t mean just the 4um,,, I’m talking about ALL men traveling to Kyiv and Ukraine. Of the men I’ve talked to in Kyiv,, whether standing in line at KBP, or in the lobby or elevator of a hotel,,,, EVERY ONE was there for fun and games.
If I’m going to Ukraine for hookers,,, then why have I traveled to Odesa, Nikolayev, Lughansk, Herson and Sumy??
TomZ: “Yes, there are some like him who are complete failures with women who would go on such kind of sex tours”
I’ve never been on a sex tour TomZ,,, you are lying!!!
TomZ: “Now stop lying in the 4um looney because you are not going to go unchallenged.”
“Sex Scene and Prostitution
Prostitution in Ukraine is illegal but widespread and largely ignored by the government. Sex tourism rose as the country attracted greater numbers of foreign tourists
90 percent of prostitutes working in Kyiv are girls who come to the big city in search of a better life. Female students tend to be potential prostitutes, especially those who come from elsewhere in Ukraine. “
“Sex Tours to Ukraine:
There are numerous sex tours organized to Ukraine. Especially from the United States and Western Europe. Ukraine seems to have the advantage among the other sex tourism countries. “
“A sk a foreign man of a certain type what he knows about Ukraine and you might get various unexpected answers, but there’s one predictable one – Ukrainian women. Yes, he’ll say, they’re beautiful and smart, but they’re also easy to get. Hence Kyiv’s growing reputation as a sex-tourism mecca. What’s On looks into a strange phenomenon.
Besides being the capital of the independent state of Ukraine, Kyiv’s more and more a capital of prostitution and sex tourism (not to mention pornography), picking up right where other former Eastern Bloc cities like Budapest and Prague left off.”
“It is virtually impossible to track the statistics of so called “sexpats” traveling to Ukraine, however. “The growing amount of sex tourists entering Ukraine has not escaped us, but it is very difficult to measure their numbers,” said Andriy Shenin, an expert at the state tourism administration.”
“Police told Korrespondent, the Kyiv Post’s Russian language sister publication, that some 12,000 prostitutes operate in Ukraine's $700 million sex industry. The figure is comparable to the annual profits of RosUkrEnergo”
Ahhhh,,, I’m sorry TomZ,,,, do you want to challenge Goggle too??