I doubt the alcohol gift a lot!! And what if her dad doesn't drink. and what if he is not allowed to drink other drinks besides vodka (as it is with my father, according to his health he can drink vodka only)....so there are so many many things involved in that, so be careful!!
Disastrnaunt: I do not doubt you knowledge and common sence says that you are correct, but Russian and maybe Ukraine people have this notion that vodka is good for you. One girl I know has also said that a doctor told her that vodka is not bad. She also said that it is well known that if you always drink vodka, that if you were opened up for say an operation your insides would smell pleasently fragrent. This belief seems to be in the whole communitie from street girls to Doctors, go figure.
ID afraid no, she the only one - ur right about the vodka, it seams to be a cure all remedy. Cut yourself shavin, Vodka plz.. and try this... I had a real stiff neck from flights ext. so she gave me a Vodka Massage.. nowt wrong with that. Bring on the Vodka.. Hope she brings a few cases of it to UK. They way they use it it could bankrupt me at UK prices..
disastronaut I don't know about your professional skills, and I think that you're a good doctor:)) But I know that when a person (like my dad) has duodenal ulcer he is allowed to drink vodka only, as it has some disinfectant action, all other drinks seam to disturb the ulcer and make it worse for the person.
And my dad and we all in the family have a very big reason to believe that doctor who said that, as he saved my dad's life, and cured a very hard illness in his kidneys...and the chance to cure such an illness is 1 out of a million...so I know that for over then 10 year my dad follows his prescriptions and has no problems with his ulcer, which makes all of us very very happy!!!!:)))
I KNOW that a lot of drinking goes on in the FSU. And I have been advised that if your lady's father ever asks you to go toe-to-toe with him (shot for shot) with vodka in celebration, you are best advised to bow out (as I understand it - many experienced drinkers from western will find themselves under the table fairly quickly - or so I've been told). But having spent five weeks now there in entirely social situations I have yet to have the opportunity to overdoit. Why? Because women over there it seems are so concerned with not getting a heavy drinker that they watch your behavior like a hawk. I've written before about the fact that I once had two glasses of beer with no problem - however on the third, my drinking habits and those of my immediate family and anyone I ever knew were suddenly called into question. (I didn't have a fourth.) I have also been admonished for mixing grape and grain beverages - two glasses in six hours!
I find it unbelievable that the FSU has such a reputation for vodka consumption - yet in my five weeks there I have had nary a shot. If I didn't know better - based on my experience (as guided by the ladies I have been with) I would think the entire place was entirely made of (nothing but) tea drinkers.
(Maybe I've been hanging out with the wrong people.)
Jet the idea that people in FSU drink a lot of vodka, I think it's an old stereotype...you see young men and girls who want to have a proper income (not much but enough for a living) work 24 hours a day, 30 days a month...and of course there comes a time when they need to relax...I know myself this very good. Last week a friend came to me (my boyfriend was on business trip) and she said "I need to have a drink"....we had beer, but we didn't drink much, though we relaxed and chattered a lot, and it was a very good evening...so I think that drinking plays a role in relaxing, a rather big role, at least this is for me and for my boyfriend and his and mine friends.
And as for watching their men drinking...is a wrong type of behaviour for a woman, of course it's only my opinion, but I have to say that when my boyfriend and I started dating, his friends were coming up to me and saying "what did you do with him, he drinks 3 times less then he used to" though he and I we never talked on this topic, so I think that when a man is really in love, he will know his limit, and though will sometimes step over it (I realize that there are meetings with friends, when there are only men in the company, I realize that) but this will happen not oo often:) and to me it's a matter of trust between 2 people:)
Ptichka: You are so sweet and understnding. All you guys - read her posts and tell me - doesn't she demonstrate those qualities we all look for in a Russian woman? Ihope the oneI end up with is as much like you as possible. (And I don't even know what you look like.)
I went "toe to toe" with my girlfriend's father and brother-in-law, drinking vodka. It was quite an experience, and I think they were impressed that I was able to get up and walk away from the table. They did think I was crazy for chasing the vodka with Heineken.
In reply to Ptichka: I apologize to you if I offended you. Western and eastern medicine are very different in some ways, with different remedies, and beliefs. I was taught that alcohol, any kind, is caustic to the stomach lining, if consumed on a daily basis. I do believe that is is the "lesser of the evils," because it does have a lower acid content than, wine, for example.
I think that it's great, how your father survived a horrible disease.
If vodka attributed to his improved health, than I learned something new today. (THANKS! :o)
I also think that a lot of my views on "alcohol and its effects on health" derive from the fact that my father died as a result of alcoholism last year, at the old age of 54.
Yes you are right about Ptichka, Jet. But Ptichka I must tell you that your Father being allowed to drink only vodka is to me, quite ammusing. It fits in to all the stereo typical ideas that I have grown up with concerning Russians.LOL :o)
Jet thank you a lot for the kind words you said!!!:)
disastronaut you didn't offend me in no way!!!:) It's just that everybody knows when you don't have iodine, and you were scratched or hurt in any way, if there is some vodka you will be able to work on the injury with some vodka if there is any, and no bad microbes will get into the injury:))))
Man though my dad allowed to drink only vodka and not any other alcohol drinks, it doesn't mean that he drinks it from dusk till dawn, no he may have 50 grams of vodka in a month's time. He doesn't like drinking a lot!!:) Drinking vodka only doesn't mean that a person can't drink water, tea or coffee:) And besides one more thing, my dad is a Ukrainian in a 7th generation, making me a Ukrainian in the 8th generation...so please don't call us Russians.
Jet, the first time I went to russia, I went to a pizza resturant with this girl, it was very crowded and we had to share a table with 2 men. I sat down and within 2 minutes they understood I was Australian, and invited me to drink Vodka with them. I declined as I did not want to look bad with this girl I surpose. Anyway, the rest Of my trip was not much different but the funny thing was, all were surprised to know that I have drunk Vodka before and that it was easily bought in Australia. I think I was repeatedly offered it at first because they wanted to see my reaction to it. Sorry to say but I had drunk many bottles in my youth.
Did you try pertsovka? I never had it until I sat down for dinner one evening with her family. Very good. I think it was from Ukraine.
Ptichka, you are Ukrainian: I'm sure you would know about this delicious potion.
Percovka is a Ukrainian drink:) And my parents like it most of all, as they say it has a rather soft taste and smell. I'm not sure about that, as I don't drink vodka. I don't like the smell of it, only if it's added to cocktails, then I don't mind it. I myself prefer wines and cognack and beer of course:)