hello everyone!
I'm new here, and wanted to know if I could ask for help/advice!
I got an email off of my Yahoo personal here in the US from a Russian woman a little over a week ago. Ever since I replied back to her, she has now "fallen in love" with me and wants to come over to the US in a couple weeks! I can't tell if she is for real or not?? Her email domain is 'muzwagon'. I noticed some other Russian women on here have that same domain. What does that mean? Is it some Russian mailbox?
I just can't believe that after 6-7 emails, she has totally fallen in love with me and I haven't even given her a picture or really that much info about me! All she knows is my first name and city in the US!! Hmm..
Beware, you will likely be asking for money for the flight or other expenses.
99.99% of the time, you need to go their first, see if you are compatible, see her family, and just try to have a good time. If all works out (I.E. you make a couple of other trips), you apply for a Fiance visa and have her come over here. If after a couple of months she decides she won't go crazy here, then you get married and hopefully it is smooth sailing from there.
I would really doubt any sincere comments about being in love at this stage.
In any case, DON'T SEND MONEY! If you do, be well prepared to loose it.
Thanks Scott..
Yea, she hasn't said anything to ask ME for money yet, so not sure what to make of it..
So why would I need to go there first most likely? Just wondeing, I'm just a newbie to this kinda thing!
Here's a couple exerpts from her latest emails:
"Yesterday my boss informed me that I would have a vacation
approximately in 2-3 weeks, but I wasn't pleased. I didn't expect that
I would receive a vacation. But schedule, that constituted by boss
can̉t be change. I have begun to cry, because it means that I can't
write to you, I can't use a computer. I was so frightened that I can
lose you. I imagined that I should spend this vacation in my apartment,
between four walls. I should sit in loneliness and think of you. I
should aimlessly wander on streets and fall asleep with tears on eyes
every night. I have been waiting for my vacation during long 3 years
and now I receive them but they don't bring pleasure to me. I imagined
that I should spend some weeks without you and awful emptiness had
appeared in my heart."
" I have passport, and also I need an American visa. Today I have
addressed in firm where the visas are made.To me advised to use
tourist visa B1/B2. My visa will allow me to be in the USA 6 months.
I wondered how much it would cost for me. They told me that this service
would cost 380 USD. I said it was very big money, and visa couldn't be
cost so much. They told that I could make all directly in Moscow where an American
consulate was. But I have considered that if I shall make directly in
Moscow, I will squander more money. The way to Moscow and back also
residing there will cost much. I shall squander more money than 380 USD
if I go there. Besides if my application isn't approved, it will turn
out that I squander all money for nothing. I have been explained that
it will be necessary to visit set of various departments, state and
medical institutions both in Kislovodsk, and in Moscow. I must wait for a
long time the queue.. This agency allows to avoid many problems and to
make all for faster term. I asked how long it would take to make the
visa. I was answered that it would take about a week or may be 2 if
there were some troubles because of the terrible terrorist acts in USA
and the conflict with Iraq. And in this agency I was told, that they
need information about me from the police. If I am a law-abiding
citizen, I shall get the visa. I have never outraged the law. And I
have never done anything unlawful. I shall have preparation for
interview. It will help me to receive the visa. I understand that our
relations are not long yet, but I trust you. And I very hope so you
are, as I love you."
Sorry for the long post, but just trying to show you if you all with more experience see anything that is/is not true or alarms?! :)
First, and many will repeat this, she is extremely unlikley to be granted a tourist visa. There is too much risk of her not returning unless she has something that will assure her return. For instance, if she is financially well off, or has a prominent family, that will generally suffice.
That does not appear to be the case.
Anyway, if she has not asked for money, then be prepared, since I think the next letter or two will probably be just that.
The reason you should visit her first is for the reasons I just gave above. She is VERY unlikely to get a tourist visa to the USA.
I would even say NO WAY she will get a B1/B2 visa( unless she has her own business here, very good income and lots of property that she could state for the consulate as a guarantee of her return back. And it all looks like a classic scam scenario. Personally I dont beleive a single word she says. Beware and better just stop all contacts with thsi person
Ssteven, I'm having a deja vu here. These girls or whoever they really are, love to contact men on domestic dating sites like Yahoo, Match, Date, because they know that they will catch the man unaware. This girl is not real. As a matter of fact she sounds like my first "love" , she was from Ukraine though. Too bad she wasn't real. My advice is to block her email.
She new the vis numbers and names, she has been given holidays so what will she do with her time. Heads up stev, if you read this again and a not 100% conviced it is a scam, you need you head read. So be smart and just loose that address before you loss some money. She has not asked for money but has told you a story as to hopefull pull some emotional string and you will offer some help. After you give this help she will have some other problem. Look up a scam site she will probably be there.
This is the same scam run on me by Angelika. Stay with in the site, these scammers don't like to work through a site like this they want to divert you to an outside e-mail box.
I have been using visualware 8.0 e-mailtracker pro to copy headers and track the e-mail back to the source. even if they use the bat to redirect or misdirect the letter it still shows up it pin points the origin on a world altlas works great and it is cool. Free too for 15 days.
Kill two birds with one stone, browse some mighty hot chics and find this girl there by going to (jim@agencyscams.zzn.com) or the Barnaul black list, use the search bar.
In any event if they have not told you here from this place Never,Never, Never, ever send money to females that you have not personaly met. The part of the scam is called the hook, dad will ahve a flat to sell cause he wantshis little girl to be happy and she will give her the money to use to pay for living expenses and trips back to Russia, or she will find a valuable coin that she can bring to the states cause it is worth 2-3000.00 dollars here or her Grandma's Diamond Broach but she was all most ripped off by the pawn broker last week when she went there, Maybe I should wait honey bun till I get to your place, oh my by the way where should I stay when I arrive, get a hotel or can I stay with you, I would really like to stay with you, would that be ok sugar plum. Yeah different name same game.
I sent a gift box to my Angelika in Sibera, Berezvoka remember, perfume, jewelry, a stuffed bear and some cash. She did not live in Berezvoka, Yesterday I got the box back from Russia everything was in the box including the cash God Lives!
Thanks again everyone for all the helpful responses! :)
I don't know if this is bad, but I want to continue seeing where this "person" leads. Again, no money requests yet, but as you all know, in due time.
Wessman, thank you for Jim's site. I went on there and no email/photo pops up so far. Hmmm..
I'll keep you all informed on how things go. Thanks again!
This is "her" reply today when I asked if we could setup a phone call. I have no clue what the heck all this garbage means?!?
"I with trembling heart waited your letter. Thank you for told all what
you think. Thanks for your letter. You have written to me and it means
that one more day I will be lived with good mood.
In 1999 - 2000 the Russian troops invaded the republic of Cheychnya in
Caucasus. The Caucasus region is unsafe.Kislovodsk is unstable politically and
economically. To call to you is really difficult. On work I have only phone which
has only internal connection. In our City telephony communication
practically is not advanced. Many houses have not even hot water supply.
But you speak about things like phone with such ease while for me it
is a complicated question. Here people cannot even call militia or ambulance
if they need it. If you would see how we live here, you would understand.
In my City all telephone communications are carried out through the
switchboard. I do not know As for explain to you, but to call to you it is
necessary to have connection with the switchboard. I have no such
opportunity. Also I try to find a way to call to you so that nobody knew
about it, because if information about this will be distributed in our City,
which is near to the Chechen republic. Therefore we have here many acts of terror.
I can be in trouble, because there are many supporters the
Chechen terrorists who at present time hate Americans. I am afraid of
their punishment."
Buckeyeman, I hear ya; but the funny thing is that this all started by her emailing me *first*, not me. I have no interest in any of her nonsense, its just really quite amusing the crap this person is emailing. Its become a daily ritual in our office now to read these and just laugh out loud.
Believe me, I am quite happy in the lady department as is :)
SStevens , does she go by the name olga..and also talk about shouting from the Mt tops I love you etc...email came to me from Yahoo personals as well ...was a chicago addy I think...she said it was from a group of students she'd meet and that one nice girl set it up for her then moved to japan...