I think they are seeing them. It may not be immediately but I think they read the Send: 14.01.2008 12:42:06 because they posted 10 new profiles all with target ages on them after posting 24 profiles with one target age of 37-50 and the rest (). The online community is still a small world with google. If you do not want them to know what you are saying you better not say it.
I have used cindyagency in 2005 and 2006.I can not say they are honest-they are very dishonest. But having said that i did meet 5 nice ladies and one in particular i had a very passionate sexual relationship with from october 2005 until April 2006 in Dnepropetrovsk. Her name was Natalia and she was 19 at the time.A lovely fair blonde long haired lady.We were talking about her moving to the u.s with me but then suddenly without reason she ended it.
I found out the real reason for her change of mind and discovered her main motivation was money.Without going into too much detail here, i can tell anyone that is interested that these women are GREAT ACTRESSES and will convince you of anything .But the bottom line-the trigger for them is MONEY.
asfan6 Martin_FFC 06.03.2008 6:43:23 What's a matter Marty. Didn't want to throw that last PM on the board? I knew you wouldn't.
Now what is the excuse? I don't really care how old you are, how many times you've been to Ukraine
that's not the issue. If you are 49 you need to give up the alcohol and cigarettes, you're a tired looking 49. As you aways badger others, you're drifting away from the subject.Everything
I use here are you own words. I still remember the dossiers you kept on others here.
Remember Telling Glad what my email address was. Though you were wrong, you were documenting others posts. What's good for the goose is good for the
Gander. Don't try to sell me on the culture bullshit. You can save that for someone else to bullshit. I was around many Brits, a lively bunch as with the Irish don't have a problem with saying what's on their minds. Though Remember, you're not a Brit, you and your wife claim to be Europeans. Since you don't like your own homelads too much. Remember those are not my words but
yours.
Marty it's very cathartic to come clean. It will do your soul some good.
You've always tried to be better than others here. You always belittled those who
challenged you. You went as far as to post fake profiles on other sites. You
hounded and harassed others that didn't answer your questions.
Have a great day Liar.
Married my ass.
nasfan6 Martin_FFC 05.03.2008 22:47:35 Martin_UK
Member Send: 09.10.2005 11:01:56
Vain,
Bearing in mind that I am not American, a green card is totally irrelevant.
My wife and I have discussed everything to the finest detail, she's in that much of a hurry to get a western passport that after 2+ years of being together, and 9+ months of marriage, she remains in Ukraine, working and supporting herself, whilst we work together solving some (Ukrainian) family issues.
Please do not typecast all relationships based on your own sorry experience(s), you have no focking idea what a strong bond my wife and I have, we truly are the best of friends, we take what we have between us very seriously and we have a lot of fun in the process.
Who's the loser, me with a loving wife and best friend or you, a bitter & twisted individual whose only want is to spread gloom and despondancy?
Seems to me you have forgotten your time lines again. 2+ years?
As of April-May 2004 you never stepped foot in Zaporozhye.
04-05-2004, 10:25 PM
MartinUK
Members Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 746
Hey,
Anyone here ever been to Zaporozhye in Ukraine (Mexican brothel owners excluded) and got anything to say about it.
I might be going there from Odessa on Friday of this week, if I go I'll be looking for an apartment in Zaporozhye also, anyone got any tips?
Thanking you
Senior Crony
__________________
Well the Ukraine girls really knock me out
They leave the west behind
And Moscow girls make me sing and shout
That Georgia's always on my my my my my my my my my mind
9 Months of Marriage
Let’s revisit this post. You must have gotten Married during this time to make the dates work, in either way you were lying your ass off.
Makes me real curious to see when and if you are really married. By the Way Mexican Brothel owners, little bit of a racist statement isn’t it. I recall you accusing Izi of being racist about some Somalians killing some cops in the UK. What a Hypocrite. No Marty I promised some guys I would hound you to hell for the things you did to them. I never forget a promise. I know you will never produce evidence, you will use your excuse that your life is private(Private Lie) but when it something to brag about, you spew it all over these forums. You have no life, doubt if you have a wife, you are a keyboard clown. I would change my profile on
Send: 08.12.2004 2:50:43
Thanks Shaggy and others,
One thing that was pleasing, I received a couple of very ladylike replies to the effect 'thank you for your attention but please look for another lady'. I know all about the FSU culture but it is a long time since I've met such politeness on the internet!
Yep, I guess the scammers must be here as everywhere but like everywhere, if you're searching in the under 25, drop dead gorgeous category then you're at high risk with a decreasing risk the older the age and the lesser the looks.
Anyway, I'm in Ukraine 18 December until 03 January thus still hunting!
Thanks again guys
You can't produce what you don't have. You have fabricated a whole life here, the only problem you thought most would go away, except this one Stubborn Irishman who doesn't take lightly his friends being insulted by a common puke like you. You need to change the lie on http://www.freepersonals.ru/showProfile.da?id=273791, You're a pathetic liar there also, you claim not to smoke and drink, but you're always buying duty free cigarettes and on the piss all the time. Now that's truly a sad life. I never had to get drunk to go visit my wife and I had a hell of a lot longer flight. You are such a loser.
nasfan6 Martin_FFC 05.03.2008 21:28:32 You haven't disproved one thing. You have obfuscated all the way. You can run but you can't hide forever Marty. I still wonder what the near future means 1,2,3 years. Just like my many times.
You also know you lied here saying you never posted Nors Profile on a gay site.
Let this remind you.
Hi Nor, I would have responded to your post online but your
> thread was deleted and I'm guessing that you are not free to post any
> longer so please excuse this email but if this may be the final
> communication between us then I'd like to clear some air whilst
> setting th
I agree with Monada any Ukranian ladies I have met are strong women but in a very good way very intelligent.I really enjoy talking to them and listening to their views.
And thanks alot for some of the tips Monada
xvvx. This description of Natalia at Cindyagency sounds very much like the lady i saw in 2005.Did she work at a nail manicurists and her parents market? if so this is a lady i can tell you few truths about her that you may not be aware of.
I will private message you on this forum
Brent I think you should tell me on this forum about Lady Natalia it would confirm many things that i know about ukraine woman.Other man here say they great actress- yes this true but i think western man will find that is only Part of problem with ukraine woman.Western man Not find this out in 2 days or 2 months.
Have you ask to buy an address from cindy agency or did you just make that up? I have issues with the email forwarding and the target ages of the ladies but I have met some very nice ladies through them. They are real and look like the photos on their profiles. I have rented apartments from them 3 times and have no complaints.
i have been into cindy agency in dnepropetrosk and have dated a few women from there one for quite sometime altho in the end things did not work out I am now at rwglobe not sure if they are any better or worse than any of the others but i recieved a letter from a woman in krenemchuk we corresponded for a month then meet and spent 2 weeks together and are still corresponding and talking on the phone and planning future time together
we did however when we decided to meet we by passed the apartments and and interpretors and even taxis that the agency was quik to offer rented an apartment not connected to the agency
booked my own transportantion and when we at times needed a translator we used a friend of hers that spoke fairly good english ,I did thou learn while i was there we ended up in a resturant with one of the interpetors from the agency and she did not seem to be to happy in our conversation and choice of meeting thru the agency and then doing everything else on our own ,so i guess my thoughts are yes there are real women at these agencies and my advice is be brave and set things up on your own
poet,
RWGLOBE a.k.a. 'Global Ladies' spam guys with ladies first letters, she didn't send it, they did, in the hope that he replies at $$$ a time but they affiliate with local agencies, I am personal friends with one such RWGLOBE agency owner and RWGLOBE have very strict rules that their affiliate agencies are supposed to adhere to.
I don't know those rules in full but I got the expression that the agency is only allowed to send/receive/translate letters and everything is to be long distance, no exchange of email or web addresses nor agency information. I don't think RWGLOBE allow them to offer additional services once the guy arrives there such as transport, accommodation, sightseeing personal interpreter etc.
I guess this is because RWGLOBE wants the monopoly of ripping the guys off, they pay the agencies circa 50% of the letter fee and that is all the agencies are supposed to revenue from the punters.
So, it wouldn't have been RWGLOBE, being upset that you hadn't done more via the agency, it was the agency upset but had they done more for you then they would have been breaking the rules which it sounds like they just ignore anyway.
avoid cindyagency. I used them in 2006 when I visited Dnepropetrovsk. I am astonished to see that many of the same ladies photos are still listed on that site 8 years later.
Dropped by here and saw this.
I'm 59 and have been married for the last 14 years to a great Ukraine woman 37, but now divorced.
Now I'm marrying with another wonderful Ukraine woman this month.
I did an extensive search for a new woman in Ukraine during the last 18 months.
Mailing more than 3000 intro letters across all possible dating sites to women that fulfilled my search criteria.
All of them beautiful (category 9-10), between 31 to 37, very slim with a nice figure and height between 160 and 170 cm.
Intelligent and reflective in communication, and with higher education, good jobs and stable income, preferably with good English.
Only mothers with a single child at almost the same age as my twin boys, that were looking for a "father person" and a nice family life.
Wether it be in Ukraine (preferred by most) or abroad if necessary .
Then answering, writing and Skyping with more than 300 of those showing serious interest in me and my children.
And spending a total of almost 20 weeks driving 20K kilometers (12k miles) criss-cross Ukraine, meeting with 30+ of these women.
Then dating and having shorter relationships with a hand-full of wonderful and serious women, that were genuinely interested in starting a relationship with me.
Now to the point:
I met and spent two days together with one beautiful, smart and lovely, 37 year old mother, last summer.
She was from a well known (serious) dating agency, and had been a client with a profile there for almost TEN years.
Most of us here in the west don't understand how few of these women actually ends up finding a good man at all.
Almost all of the very beautiful and serious women I met with in the last 18 months are still actively looking for a MAN to enter their lives.
You see very few if any of these marriages end up FOR LIFE
Yours lasted 14 years which is an exception because most of these marriages last 2-3 years if that.
Tom Shea has been only married 1 year. I hope his marriage lasts for life but we'll see.
Now northkape, even after your divorce you realized that you could not find the calibre of lady you're accustomed to in your own country so you went back to Ukraine.
The way I treat it is like a car. Many people buy new cars then trade them in after 3-5 years. I think to expect you're going to get a wife for life is unrealistic.
For me I prefer short relationships 3-6 months, without bringing them to my country. That means I have to travel to Eastern Europe a lot. But that's the trade off because it's unrealistic to expect a marriage to last.
With someone who's 59, he hasn't got much time left. Another ten years and you're 69. Are you still going to search then? How appealing will you be to ladies in the 30s age range that you're seeking now?