I am wondering if the women on the site anastasia receive commissions if they receive mails from customers. I am corresponding with few women and they are asking a lot of questions, marking interest for me, but when i suggest we can meet to check if there is a match, they say it is too early and they ask more questions about me, my country, the weather and so on... my impression is that they just try to stimulate me to send mails (that i pay) and no more than that ! They don't consider a real relationship. Am i right ? Does anyone have a good and true experience with anastasia-international.com ? Or is it just scam ?Thanks !
Good luck and yet more good luck!
I know of Beemer who has had some positive experiences of meetings with Anastasia ladies, but I have had various no shows, lame excuses and a realistically a serious lack of anything remotely positive. I have heard various stories of the ladies being paid per letter. Thing is they consist of many different agencies, some more dishonest than others and I really think that many of them do get paid per letter and in some cases it is probably a man writing the letters!
try typing the words "anastasia scam" in google or anastasia in the Forum search at the top of this page and that will tell you a lot on this subject matter that has been covered here a multitude of times here
PB....how long have you been writing to girls?? If it has been a couple months and they are interested in you, they should be willing to meet, rememeber, that doesn't insure they will show up. When I was first on anastasia, I thought I would write to girls for about a month and then tell them I will be visiting their city and asked if they wanted to meet, some said they are out of town or it was too soon. I figured probably 2-3 months would be better. Some girls like to have better idea of men, while others I sure just want to milk it. I think it is better to ask for her postal address, send her flowers and find out then if she will meet, if not move on, state in your letters that you have serious intensions on meeting your beloved, you are not into playing agmes, maybe this will ruffle some feathers...girl will know you mean business.....works for me!!!!!!!!!!!!
As for anastasia...................they are crooks, along with many agencies!!!!!!!
Think of anastasia and agencies as a tools....you only need those to tools for a short time, get their phone number ASAP thru anastasia and try to get meeting, then and only then will you find out if girl is real. I will soon find out if a girl that told me same story as you PB is real or not, I do have 3 lined up, we'll see how I fare!!!! Just be careful PB!!!!
Hi everyone, thanks for your comments.I really appreciate to share your experience.
Well, i have mixed feelings. I am corresponding with several ladies (10!)through Anastasia (means lot of money, i agree but dating in my Europe should aslo costs money ...). And, as far i can see (i just started one month ago), there are different kinds of woman i am writng to, and i would say that they are divided in 3 equal categories:
1) Younger girls who "only" want to write and chat with Western men (even if they are much older, i am almost 50...);
2) Women, divorced, with kids, who really want a new life and build a new family, and i think who are sincere altough i have no real evidence it : just the way they write and what they are speaking about;it does not mean that they all relly considering to have a real relationship, but maybe half of them...
3) Women with unclear motivation for me : they are easy talking, speaking common things, avoiding any "closer" words,... Maybe they are fake, maybe they "just" get paid to write letters, ...
You will certainly think that i am a naive fool !!! Don't hesitate to comment further ...Anyway i will continue and i am planning to participate to "socials" organized by Anastasia and i will let you know.
BTW : how to get direct phone number ? I guess that the interpreter will block that question!
PB...10 GIRLS???????????? You must be spending a fortune on these girls. I hope you don't have any girls that write you back quickly, like next day. Most likely they are into this for the money, either them or agency. Ideal girl is one that writes every 4-5 days. I don't agree with your categories as far as separating in age groups, 1&3 are same to me. I do agree the girls with kids do seem more sincere but what can you really tell about girls only through letters. The 'closer' words should come in time if they get closer to you but usually come from younger girls, so beware this. In anastasia phone calls, you can get any contact info from girls, like phone numbers if she is willing to give it to you, it is just very expensive. If she doesn't speak english this is good for setting up you own interpreter for 3 way calls at half price of anastasia.
10 girls man ! no kidding ! I will make a cleaning in my list ! Now i am European and the us $ is low, so let 's say i got a rebate ;)
I have no problem to pay because it is true that there is translation work and furthermore it is normal to have access to a so huge list of nice women. It has a price. The only point is that i need to be sure that these women are true.
For my part, i can say that one of them at least seems really serious. We agree to meet.
I will keep you posted with news of my adventures !
(sorry my english, i am not a native speaking ...)
PB, have you talked on phone with your 'serious girl'. Just because you agreed to meet is just a small step. Every girl I have written in anastasia we agreed to meet but some never happened for several reasons, one being their sincereness. i don't write to more than 5-6 girls at a time and I definately have a time frame to meet girls. I tell them when I will be there and set up a time to meet.
Hable espanol o francais??? Un amigo esta en italia ou un ami est en italie.
I hope you keep a diary.
Because if I were you, when you finally meet Miss Perfect and get married, I would write a book about your expectations, hopes, dreams, and adventures in this quest, and describe in detail all of these correspondences, meetings, cities, and girls, and your analysis of the mind of the Ukranian girl who advertises herself for marraige to western men.
I write this because the number of girls that you have met is amazing, and may continue a while yet.
Just a thought buddy, it could make you and your future wife a lot of money.
Hell, my quest was far too easy, I just walked in there and picked her out, and it looks like it will go all the way.
Hey Tringa....what you have got is what I am trying to reach for!!!! :))
I don't know how dramatic book can possibly be. I do have some great stories. Met some very nice girls and some selfish girls. One thing is for sure, I know how to get around in ukraine. Will try out moldova for first time and take bus from chisinau to odessa. gotta brush up on my russian. I have my own way of finding my girl and over time has adapted
as I learned how process works. Have made big mistakes in beginning, try being stuck in moscow airport having missed your flight to st petes and no one speaks english and it is late evening, boy talk about wondering what the hell I am doing here!!!!!! It is funny, I consider every trip a successful one if I get back home in one piece and live to tell about it. I enjoy writing posts here while I am in FSU, decribing what I see and feel, it is very interesting for me, nothing like actually being there. In some ways girls in FSU are same as home but in other ways they are like night and day. I do believe there are girls there that are interested in finding their beloved and age is not as important as chemistry and security. I still think biggest obstacle for guys is girl leaving her country. That is one thing I try to find out asap, at least to see what her answer is.
As far as a diary, there are many posts here for me with some of my experiences, so they are documented in some way. Too bad pics could not be posted as well!!! I certainly know the do's and don't in FSU. To succeed in this endevour would be only way to write a book!!
take care, tringa.....good luck in going all the way!!
I'm currently also on probation, my posts must be cleared by moderator. I sent Oleg an email the other day describing some frauds that have been committed in here. It's actually unfair to the guys that are really seriously looking to find a woman in the FSU. I watched as one got extemely bad advice and it ruined a promising relationship he had. After convicting the woman before meeting her from some meatheads expert advice, he tried to apologize to her and set it straight. She told him to go pound salt. Nice job Mr. Expert with the newbie.
There are more scammers on these boards than I bet operate in the FSU. Guys trying to act as if they have some great life because their reality is not that at all. Trying to hard to fit in, when a natural approach would be better.
One clown has his profile back on a freepersonals site again after claiming to be married. I'm sure this is some great research that is being done for some secret project with some agency. Yeah right. He's been moderating this forum and reporting to another forum about the corruption within fiance.com
As for Fiance.com, I don't think guys can find much better way to write ladies. Even one's from pay per letter sites are on here and it saves you money. When I was on fiance.com I think it was 29 bucks a month for unlimited letters. I wrote my wife almost everyday until her agency bitched that it was too much, and I just started to call her everyday at home on my lunch hour at work.
Fiance.com isn't an agency, they do the best they can to provide a decent service. I'm proof that it works. You can't have to much expectation out of it, you must use common sense be a man and you will do fine. I had better things to do in my life than argue in this forum how many women were listed here, or if there was a chat room or not.Or try to shame some woman who rebuffed my advances towards here. If I was worried about those things I would have cancelled my membership after the first month.
The thing that bothers me for new guys is these self proclaimed experts who have created a life behind a keyboard and they are fraudulent in what they are preaching to the audience. Now new guys have to deal with the problems of the women and the silly wannabes in these forums.
I was not posting a complaint. The people who host and monitor this forum have the right to allow or disallow whatever they want to. This forum is provided to us at no cost in hopes to bring more traffic and sales to their site. So when they refuse to post my replies on views advocating a communication different than the services they provide, adding a Url to direct someone to, or making a positive comment on a thread involving a competitive agency, they have every right to do so and I do not mind it.
As for Fiance.com system I think I kind of have a handle on how they operate and it kind of sounds like a workable system but every time I look for information I run into a page where I have to join to see more and that is where I quit.
I was merely making the comment on beemers reply that his post appeared before Martins dated earlier than his
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(One clown has his profile back on a freepersonals site again after claiming to be married. I'm sure this is some great research that is being done for some secret project with some agency. Yeah right. He's been moderating this forum and reporting to another forum about the corruption within fiance.com)
This is the 'clown' speaking and just putting some things into perspective here:
I made a remark initially, in passing, on this forum back in 2005, that I was married, almost immediately nasfan (nowadays a.k.a. my stalker) and his then 'cronies' immediately responded, somewhat unpolitely, to the effect that there was no way I was married, I was not, but they were of course, capable of finding a lady and, again to the effect, that it takes a 'man' to find a lady insinuating that I was not a man but making the point that they considered themselves to be 'men' and so much above others.
Well the subject pretty much, after a while, died a death on this forum however there is one individual, I'm sure you can figure out who, who appears to have made it his life goal to disprove my marriage who will just not let the matter drop, indeed over the past 3 years he must have occupied circa 24 or 48 hours (a whole 1 or 2 days) browsing the internet, not that he would use Google of course for fear of being flamed by himself, to try to dig dirt on me and my marriage and he fails at every hurdle.
Indeed it must have been around mid-point over these past 3 years that my stalker made a challenge that I make available a copy of my marriage certificate, well my wife can
Hummm, Okay, i don't know what's going on here above ...
Beemer : i just ad my "serious" woman on the phone and we will meet in a few weeks. I will go Ukraine, attending some "socials" organized by Anastasia and then meet with her. I know you what is your opinion about anastasia but it is my first time, i am just separated from my wife and i need to discover by myself and i need some entertainment ... we will see ...
Anyway, i will spend some days in Odessa, so if you know good spots (restaurant, bars, disco, or whatever, this will be highly appreciated !!!!).
Thx to all.
Almost an identical thing happened to me on my trip to Russia last year.
My luggage bag didn't turn up in Moscow airport. It was a waste of time trying to explain this to people that couldn't understand me, and I was asked to fill out a form. I kept going back to see if the bag would appear and eventually it did, an hour and a half after the plane had landed. When I got to terminal two for my connecting flight to Volgograd, the plane had just taken off. It was 10.30 pm, and the next flight was early the next morning. I asked the guy who was in charge of the taxis to get me to the cheapest hotel available. I was driven to some complex half way along the motorway. It looked like an army barracks, with guards and three storey blocks of flats, and a room as basic as you could possibly imagine, with no hot water, but clean. I figured this must represent where poor Russians would stay when visiting Moscow. As I lay down on the bed to rest, I could hear the couple in the next room having sex off and on for nearly an hour, and I thought to myself: '' so that's what a Russian woman sounds like in bed! Interesting. ''
Room cost me 48 USD. The taxi driver collected me again at 6.30 the next morning, and the airport charged me 20 USD for taking the next flight. Again, it would have been pointless trying to explain that it was their fault that I had missed the flight, as the person who spoke the most English could hardly understand me. Only the taxi drivers spoke good English.
And that was my very first taste of Russia.
It's just pure adventure Beemer, It's almost addictive.
Having been to Kiev a few times there is no place there called 'city square', I've been to Odessa a couple of times also, no 'city square' there either, so what are you going to do, do like all the desperate guys, or should I say kids, do and stand outside a brothel with a megaphone and yell out "GIRLS... HERE WE ARE"?
That is one advantage of the trains. I am not sure to vogograd but to St Pete from Moscow if you can get to the station and buy a ticket their fast trains will cover the distance in about 6 hours. Dumps you out on the top end of Nevski prospect. Fast train tickets can be bought for departure at 4:30 and 6:30 PM and night trains from there up to 12:45 AM. Probably doesnt cost as much as the motel room but you would miss the cold shower and the neighboring entertainment. I sleep well in the trains but some dont.
NOOGA....make sure you and your 2 mates are standing in city square alone.....when the ukrainian police start shooting at you we don't don't want any innocent people hit in crossfire!!!
Tringa....I had waited almost 1 1/2 hours for my luggage, that is biggest reason I missed my flight. My a**hole taxi driver charged me $60 to rush me to other terminal and I still missed my flight!!!! Luckily there was another flight to St Pete's near midnight so i was at terminal walking around like a lost soul for only 4 hours. I didn't have to pay extra for change in flight, one of few things that went right. I guess I didn't have as bad as you having to sleep in moscow. I didn't get to bed till almost 2am. What made matters worse, at least financially, was missing my paid-for-taxi already St Pete's airport transfer, when we landed at 1am I was about to pay anything to get into my hotel bed..... the taxi driver charged me $80 for transfer, ouch.....that hurt some!!!!! I spent $185 just in taxi's to get to my destination...ahhhhh, brings back the memories!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am sure, in many cases they just like to chat and to get some cash for it. I am corresponing with some girls... And alwas, when I ask them mailing address, they say that is to early... that we should to talk more and more...