Like I have said before, I have heard this kind of story alomst only in the USA, it must be the perception of the scammers who know that the USA is the best place for this kind of thing. Americans are the most vulnerable to it but at least their pre-nups are valid there. I think in the UK a judge can overrule a pre-nup.
I cannot imagine this kind of thing happening in a country like Switzerland.
Our justice system overly protects the victim in every case. What the judges don’t ever seem to realize,,, is that the so called victims can lie!
If the police are called for a domestic dispute/abuse,,, they MUST put someone in jail,,,, even if they KNOW it is a bogus call.
99.99999 % of the time, the man is put in jail.
No you douche, it's called commitment. If 8 leave her the prenup is null and void. I'm in it for all the right reasons. As long as she is too, the prenup will never see the light of day. Hey, maybe that's why I'm married to the best woman I've Ever met and you are still failing.
What's all this talk of "failing"? How many times Tom did you try before you met your wife? Were you "failing" during the process of trying? Do you think anyone wants to hear that?
I know people who have married FSU wives and their marriages ended. Yet they are living and working in the FSU now, living the dream dating FSU women and they will never marry again.
So it's not all about one mould that you have to marry and bring her back to your country. There are many other options.
Isn't it funny that you are being attacked now for doing the right thing and what this forum is supposed to be about: Love, Romance, Commitment? Now sex tourists like TomZ are hoping that you are going to fail so that they cam be smug and come to tell you they were right to see FSU women as little more than sex objects. TomZ is the only one who believes that he has a romantic relationship with woman a few thousand miles away.
I do not see that this forum is about sex tourism. I believe that guys who go to Thailand and places like that, for that purpose, have forums specialisng in that.
From reading TomZ's post(s) from a neutral stance I would NOT describe him as a sex tourist.
He's made a point that dating women in FSU, indeed in the world, is not all about marriage and for those that think it is all about marriage then they have clearly been brainwashed by their government's rule and this "mail order bride" tag nonsense.
I've had a number of girlfriends over the years back in Europe, in England, Wales, Belgium, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Latvia, Ukraine, Russia over a lot of years and NEVER have I heard it suggested that a guy with such a history is a sex tourist, but dare one to have a few girlfriends, over a period of time, in a foreign land then on this forum he is a sex tourist? ... what a naive load of drivel.
WS:
“Now sex tourists like TomZ are hoping that you are going to fail so that they cam be smug and come to tell you they were right to see FSU women as little more than sex objects.”
Who,,,, has ever said, that they want Tom Shea to fail??
Whenever posting on the same thread as WS,,,, everyone needs to get their crayons out, and simplify it as much as possible!!
WS:
“I do not see that this forum is about sex tourism.”
Well,,, it’s supposed to be about Love, Romance, and Friendship,,, but most agencies and websites want it to be about sex tourism. Fiance.com is one of the better websites,,, but the majority of them are selling nothing but sex. The websites will write about their old fashioned girls,,, but the pictures tell a different story. Advertisements and women’s profiles are geared towards sex tourism!
MartinPC excellent post. I couldn't have said it better myself.
There are some people who think you have to correspond only with one person (up to 9 months in some cases), go only to see her, bring her back to your country for trial living, get married and live happily ever after with a white picket fence.
For some people if that's what they want fine, but they shouldn't be criticizing other people who want to do it differently. What if I don't want to bring a woman back to my country? What if I just want to have relations there with her in her country, or take her to Egypt or Turkey on vacation? I am immediately branded a "sex tourist" by the likes of WifeSeeker, who is seeking a wife and has been for several years and still seeking.
Am I a sex tourist? I was once asked this in a bar in Kiev. No, I answered. I am just a tourist who likes sex. The Ukrainian girl who asked me that question got a giggle.
There's nothing wrong with sex. We don't need the likes of stuffy people like WifeSeeker to tell us what we can do and where we should go. If anyone should go to Thailand it is WifeSeeker. I heard that Thai girls make faithful wives and good house cleaners. Hopefully he won't kick her to the curb within a month or two, after he tires of her.
Maybe it's my English that is bad, but if you ate a tourist, and you go looking only to have sex with women, aren't you a sex tourist, even if you take them out to dinner first?
It's not my place to pass judgement on you or the girl, maybe she's just a sex local?
But I think the main point of this website is to locate good women to bring back home to marry. I've seen dozens of men that quote a few dozen letters, then call her their fiance. They make one trip over to get photos and get engaged and start the visa preparation. When i ask "what the hell are you thinking? ", they tell me how much they saved marrying a woman they only have seen for 3 days. This isn't renting an apartment. It's deciding on who you want to grow old with (sex tourists aside).
I Jane found the woman who to me is the best woman on earth. Stunning on the inside and out. 8 Wish you all find what you are looking for
I live in a "sex tourist" country, the Philippines.
1. There are guys that travel here just to frequent the bars and the bar girls (aka prostitutes), these are sex tourists.
2. There are guys that travel here that are tighter than a ducks ass, they want everything, including the girls, on a budget and there are plenty of girls willing to play along, these are sex tourists.
3. There are guys that come here, I am located in one of the top 10 surfing locations of the world, for surfing, generally younger guys, and if they're here for a few weeks or longer they'll likely pick up a girlfriend, are these sex tourists?
I've travelled (working) around the globe, UK, Belgium, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Philippines, Australia to name a few and I've had sexual relations with ladies in each of these countries that I was WORKING in, one should not be tarnished for being heterosexual and wanting a bit now and again!
I broke up with my Pinay girlfriend of 2 years last December, since then, whilst shopping around for a new girlfriend, I've had sexual relations with five ladies, that doesn't brand me a sex tourist, and of the five there was only one for me but by the time I realised it I'd already let her go so I needed to win her back, she didn't make things easy for me but my determination won through and we're setting up home together from tomorrow :)
I thought about going to Philippines, but they all look like hookers to me. Maybe it was too many viet Nam films while I was growing up that were filmed there. Btw, what do you do that you work in one of the poorest countries per capita on earth for a living? It seems poor countries, unless it's government contracting doesn't pay much. I worked at one point all around kawajaline atoll and surrounding islands back to Johnston island, but like i said it was government work.
I sold up in UK, came to Philippines, bought some land, designed and built ten accommodation rooms and a restaurant upon it and I have my own business.
Sure I could earn more back in my home country but then I'd need to be earning more to pay the income and other taxes and to cover the higher cost of living.
A neighboring resort owner of mine, he's still domicile in Australia so he needs to be making an "Australian profit" or it wouldn't be worth his while doing it, I'm now domicile in the Philippines living the life on a remote tropical island and 18 months in to it's operation my business has already made a name for itself, business is good, it could be better, but it's improving as word and marketing spreads.
They say marry a Filipina and it's for life, that shouldn't be taken word for word but there is no divorce in Philippines so find a good lady and her mentality is that marriage is for life.
Check it out, of the Filipino overseas workers so many of them are nurses, caregivers, nannies etc. There is something in their culture that they are there to care for others so find oneself a good one and she'll care for one more than any white woman would ever know how.
living in PI is so cheap, that your social security check makes you "king of the hill". For work!!! HMMM! Just offer to teach English and you are set...