Something is odd! I am 40 and girls in their 20's won't give the time of the day; even though, I look younger. I guess to them, I am just like WTF a 30 y/o sex tourist....should I be like LR and those wasting 10 yrs chasing a Slavic / Baltic or Balkan skirt? Answer NFW José!
As for me, I have been going to bed at around 3 to 4 AM every day for the past 10 years. I am middle aged. Maybe call me a vampire?
But I do agree that consideration has to be made with respect to the age difference. Besides virility, health status, and other physical attributes, those tend to decline as one ages.
I usually notice a bit of desperation in their tone of communication whether they are young or old. I will try to let them off easy.
It sounds like maybe the ladies have tired of foreign men in general? Of more of those in their 20s no longer desire to leave their country? In my case, I will not waste 10 years chasing after a "dead end" dream. I am not going to keep looking for a soulmate who will appear when I am 80!
No, Ukrainian ladies have not tired of foreign men, what they have tired of is foreigners going to their country and assuming that the girls will fall at their feet when they hear them speaking in English.
One (attractive) Russian lady wrote on her FB page: Western men, please stop pestering me with approaches to connect and stupid romantic messages! I am only interested in men from my own country!
What foreigner will go to Germany and assume that the girls there will fall at his feet in the street?
There is a certain segment of FSU women that are looking only for a foreign partner. Another segment is looking only for a FSU partner. Another segment open to both options.
I do not expect anyone to fall at my feet. Given that some of the German ladies are rather much more heavier than I am, I would get crushed. :)
Maybe I should try speaking in another language than English when I am there? They would then think that I am some kind of foreign worker or itinerant traveler and not associate me with the other men from foreign countries?
Folks,
Here is my perspective after 2 yrs of my FSU saga...I am talking to a lady from the capital that was able to get a Schengen visa in 20's and landed in the UK, this lady is over 30 now; a 180 from the village girl that I also met online. Tons of young Baltics are moving permanently to the UK thanks to the EU membership. (Heard this out of the mouth of my Lithuanian tour guide at Vilnius.) The clubs of Cambridge are full of young foriegners; well is college town! Most of them end up staying ....I resume, given the opportunity, they will leave their country, just like a 23 yo I know in Bulgaria...
I had randomly contacted girls on FB, VK and odnoklasniki ....it was a total fail.
It's easy to hook up with girls in Barcelona or any Western Europe country but don't assume you had hit the jackpot, unless you are a long tour. Iceland is out of the question.
On another note! I get hit with ladies over 35, most of them beuatiful milf! But you don't know if they are a desperate for marriage or pro-daters? Plenty of those at you own back yard, I know for sure once I get back in the States.
Its ridiculous wasting years chasing " dead end" dream ( we are not getting younger, just wiser but for some [needless to say])....when in reality, 10 years equals maybe to a 2 or 3 failed marriages . At least you tried....Get fluent in a foreign language....A visit twice a years and you shall earn at least 40 stamped entries/ exits on your passport. Anything is possible but you are playing at own risk.
Once again, some it's odd. Could be because I am playing for keeps while having fun...and she wants to have fun first!
K-dag:
“should I be like LR and those wasting 10 yrs chasing a Slavic / Baltic or Balkan skirt? Answer NFW José!”
Can you clarify that a little???
I haven’t spent 10 continual years in my search,,, in fact I haven’t really searched at all since 2011, because I thought I had found someone.
During my search I was quite faithful to the women I was writing to,,, even when they couldn’t see me for a day, I didn’t hit the clubs chasing skirts. Maybe I should have?
I only had a few “free” days during my trips, when there was no one else to meet,,, and I was waiting for my departure. Even then, I didn’t chase skirts,,, they found me! A guy can have more success,,,, doing absolutely nothing, except having dinner and a few drinks.
For a couple of days now,,, I have been writing to someone on fb! How did we find each other?? She found me!! She has been the only person in years that hasn’t set off all of the warning bells. If something comes of this,,, great,,, if not, I‘m not going to worry about it!
"I had randomly contacted girls on FB, VK and odnoklasniki ....it was a total fail."
I have said it before, in fact it does piss them off to see that Western men assume that they are 'game' for dating and marriage, whether they are FSU or Oriental or Western women.
Hello, there will be another show tomorrow @ 8PM Kiev Time, or 1PM Eastern Time.
Topic will be about how social networking is taking over teenangers lives, and in Ukraine too. We have people from Russia, Ukraine, Canada, USA Listening and phoning in. Ask your questions to me if you want for those FSU lovers.
Again, you can phone in using mikesukradventure
And please, can you not hi-jack my thread? Thanks to the people.
kaiserdag, sometimes what you can do though is browse different dating sites and then use Google image search. Sometimes the results will come up in those social networking sites you mentioned.
Then you can contact them via their social networking profiles. If in fact they have registered with the dating site then they won't mind being contacted in that way. If they object or get upset then you know that the dating profile is a fraud.
Also if they say, "Contact me via the (dating) site" you know that they are receiving compensation.
LR,
The only thing to clarify is... don't take this personal.
WS
Your point is correct but came be a double cross. The western status can be well use or well abuse. Your choice. Nothing wrong with using VK , odnoklassniki or mamba to find local ladies.
Folks
I had noticed people looking for a lady from many years ago! I had been on a distance relationship since I meet a girl while working in UA. And ever since trying to replace her with another FSU girl. This is very possible but not feasible. Bragging about how many opportunities , equals nothing. Writing to pretty pictures on social media for months is waste of time. Video chats with those who are not marriage material is pathetic. If you can't date locals what makes you think that 7-10 time zone away better changes for success? Western EU guys are already traveling to FSU countries. As I mention before easterner are going to Western EU counties, UK and Germany.
My observations have gave me a realistic perspective of the FSU dating. This is no kids games and diversification of places to finding a soulmate are between near and far away. The sole purpose is to discover the true identity and personality in the shortest time possible.
As I come to my last months of my tour, I rather focus in traveling.." some times you can't find it what you are looking for ". Instead, just relax and enjoy! Maybe LR's idea may just work; let them find me...
"I had randomly contacted girls on FB, VK and odnoklasniki ....it was a total fail." Shall had mention that select contact was performed using names on the dating sites and pictures. I had not used google images before.
I must remind all, that some girls will not use a pic of her own, the excuse was, she feared for a bad reputation amount her colleagues. Turn out to be BS. She didn't had a job. I should had smell that she was emotionally and mentally crazy, smart and beautiful but it took me 5 days and another 5 days to get free from her. The cheapest 2 week spent in UA.
I have only ever once become friends in FB with a girl from a dating site and that was only because there was no romantic interest. The risk of embarrassment with your friends and family by someone who could even be a scammer, rude or aggressive is there.
I would not expect any lady, from a dating site to invite me to connect with here in VK, FB or the like unless we have a real relationship. I have posted in this site some of the incredibly rude messages that men have sent to girls I have spoken to in dating sites. Imagine the embarrassment of getting messages like these for all your friends and relatives to see.
My FB friend, originally from the dating site, is only 19, she went to the datings site just looking for pen pals as she studies English at University and she showed me these appalling messages that old gits in the West sent her: calling her scammer, prostitute, telling her that the wanted sex with her using very rude language, etc.
"If you can't date locals what makes you think that 7-10 time zone away better changes for success?"
In my case, most of my successful dates have been to women in foreign countries. I don't have much of a dating track record in the USA. I was introduced to several women who lived in the USA many years ago. Many had their own ideas of a "perfect man" for them. I only was considered seriously by the foreign women probably because they were looking to a better life than what they had in their native country.
WS
I recall your comments from previous entries and I recognize getting frustrated for the lack of seriousness or nowadays called " common sense" when interacting with FSU online. With that saying, there is no point at typing nasty letters or SMS to whom we presume or know has no genuine intentions. My approach is basically as I read before band is to jump onto a video or p2p meeting after a few chats! 100% my friends list on the social media are real. If the relationship is over is her option to keep or not but if she gets immature with my generosity, she gets the " remove and bloke".
Folks
What I wanted to stir with this latest comments taking in consideration the times and current situation in eastern UA is as follows. Are we setting ourself for success or disappointments?
"With that saying, there is no point at typing nasty letters or SMS to whom we presume or know has no genuine intentions"
Jut one thing: it could be that the girl does have serious intentions but not with you (or me). So she appears to be a time waster or a scammer. Some girls tell you strightaway they are not interested in you, others beat about the bush and that is exhasprating. The same applies the other way round.
"Are we setting ourself for success or disappointments?"
Well you do not know, that is what makes life worth living. Admitttedly, odds need to be taken in consideration but there is no valid statistic or mathemaical equation in love and romance. Imagine how boring it would be if that was the case.