This might be a hard truth, but it is true that many Europeans have the qualities us American meean love and adore but the hard fact ,.though it might not be in the dictionary, their is a thing called Americanization. There are about a 1000 Russians here in vabeach where I live and I am friends with many of them, men and girls and have dated a few...and after a few months here. Girls that have never drink ,..drink. Girls that never clubed and partyed. ..Partied. Girls that were innocent,..turned bad. And they all admit that they were not like that when they were in Russia but will take it back with them. I have been to Russia and talked to guys who watched these americanized russians come home and how they talk about the change and how they done like it. So, good luck finding you russian, and enjoy her for the couple of months she still Russian, before she turns American.
Now im going to leave and read any replys,..besides I already forgot the password and the e-mail I used to get this. There going to be someone in hear whos going to use fancy words so he think hes really smart and makes himself feel good and thinks he knows Russia better than me who lived there for years and and have many friends here in the states that are russian, buy hey, going ahead a ditch me if it makes you feel better about yourself haha, did I mention my grandparents live in Russia? :-) I think the only advantage in dating a russian over an American is there exotic features, facial structure , eyes, body type, besides that when she comes here shes going to have the same wants and desires of every woman. Well, Peace and pray for the children whose lives were taken by evil.
We tend to do a lot of generalizing we know that some woman will come to America and be dedicated wives. Perhaps the woman you know here from Russia did not immigrate from Russia with and American man with marriage in mind and now they are lonely here. In America where we are at home on the range no how to handle a discouraging word. I will not be detered.
URFOS except the part about the children.
playdarussygal you know it seams to me, that girls you're talking about were not as they say even in Russia (I mean they claim not to be drinking, not partying, to be innocent)...they could just lie, and then be tired of these lies....have you ever seen a person from here who doesn't drink, at least sometimes on holidays, at least some wine or champaigne??? OK I know some girls who don't drink, because they can't stand the smell or taste, this happenes because of the problems with health, with allergies and things like that. But I have never seen a girl who won't like to have a glass of wine even, if she doesn't have some problems with health!!!:) I line up that I speak about people I communicate closely with:)
The name you chose to represent you says odles about the extent of your knowledge about women in general, and russian women in particular.
The vast majority of men here seek a woman who wants a good man to start, build and maintain a family oriented lifestyle....not a party girl like the ones you play with.
How many women like that have you ever sought, met or even know of? I'm willing to bet that "none" would be a sure answer, but even if you were completely surrounded by that kind of woman, you'd be bored to death.
Go on playing russy gals, grammarless Va wonder....you don't belong in this forum.
When you grow up, you will learn that there are many types of women in every country. The common denominator is that besides their uncommon physical beauty, a large percentage of FSU women still want the dedicated and simplified family lifestyle that many western men still believe in....you're just not one of us.
what is this guy, Playdarussygal, doing on fiance.com then?:) everybody here "needs" your lectures. I think it is good that somebody adjusts to the culture of the country where they going to live. also, who said that girls in Russia do not drink, have fun, and enjoy life when it is possible? you call Americanization - getting drunk and having party all the time:)
now you've done it - the Yanks will be all over you ;-)))
I didn't read this post before I replied to her in another thread.
Toad, go and kiss a Princess please? Wake up & smell the roses will ya? Except for the fact that she says nothing new it's also true, come on now, and normal too. When in Rome... is an old adage, dating from the Roman era even, but except for it's age it's also true - called 'acclimatizing' these days.
Or do you expect her, once next to you, to continue on living off $50/month? You'll have another thing coming I'll assure you - just give me 1 valid reason why she should spend, or cost you, less than the neighbour's wife does to the neighbour?
And now we've settled that, where do you think that money will go to?
Yeah, sure, hopefully not all towards your liquer store or fattening fast foods, but to 'normal' things Toad - 'normal' to where YOU live, not where she comes from. Her car, her make-up, her hairdo's, her clothing, all the "her's", which include entertainment. Her entertainment when you're not there, and on this point I just hope you'll not stick to her like a tick. Coffee with friends, a movie, mini-golf, cd's, foods.. whatever, but hers!
No way you can avoid her adapting to her new environment, and even trying to do this would be downright stupid, it should be encouraged even. And that will have an effect on attitudes, her's included, and consequential changes.
In fact there's plenty of examples of couples who indeed fail as a direct result of this, and often she is blamed for 'having changed'. Of course she will, better prepare yourself for it.
There are about a 1000 Russians here in vabeach where I live and I am friends with many of them, men and girls and have dated a few...and after a few months here. Girls that have never drink ,..drink. Girls that never clubed and partyed<--------Liar
he knows Russia better than me who lived there for years and and have many friends here in the states that are russian, buy hey, going ahead a ditch me if it makes you feel better about yourself haha, did I mention my grandparents live in Russia? <----- Liar
I think the only advantage in dating a russian over an American is there exotic features, facial structure , eyes, body type, besides that when she comes here shes going to have the same wants and desires of every woman<------ You dont have a clue Liar so why does the bullshit flow so well out of your big trap
Save it for somebody that wants to hear it .....hmmmm what the name that rings in my ear...... BLU!!! rofllllllllllll
I miss spoken when I said drinking and partying, when not adding all the other things we American dont like doing but I believe in this case GT toad though I might be younger I have vast more experiences in the Russian culture than you do being I live there and my family is from there. I not one to say something and not mean what I am saying. You have this dream of Russian women and a misguided dream it is. I have been reading you adds through out this forum and have read your dislike of american woman so whenever someone says something about Russian women that is not in 'spec with you "Dream" you automatically go on the offensive instead of accepting the other persons point of view. You need to open your eyes to "real life". Do I perfer Russian woman over American? No, I think of the two as equal, both cultures have there ups and downs but are two cultures being as different as night and day and the American way of living and standards are at a higher level and very appealing.
My Grammar..I southern and darn proud of it!!! :-)
--also GT Im wise enough to know your going to come back with a impolite comment....your welcome to.
There is a cultural thing here.
People from some cultures change in a short time.
Immigrants from other cultures do not change for several generations!
How long does it take for a Russian to become a Russian-American, and how long to become an American?
There are no time limits for such conversion.
I wish people were more careful and aware of the massive amount of freedom they get thrown into when they inmerse themselves into most US communities.
Without integrity, a strong family value scale and self discipline it's just too easy to forget that with massive freedom and opportunity there is also responsibility, accountability and discipline as part of the recipe for sustained, long term success.
playdarussygal. I think it is important to consider the age of these women you have written about that have changed so much. People in their 20ís and even in their 30ís will more often than not take on the behavior of their peers, which may include a lot of partying and clubbing. A woman in her late 30's and 40's is more secure with herself, is less peer influenced and she is more likely to have an established value system to ground her. It, I believe is not the Americanization of her that changed her, but perhaps she had more choices, greater income, and was following the people she hangs with.
If you have traveled a bit, you will find younger adults in Western Europe is no different in many ways than many American women. If you have noticed a wilder woman, you just did not notice the women that are less of a party type. Women are like automobiles, they come in all type of models.
Also, playdarussygal, your writing seems to have a very angry tone to it. I wonder if you might want to explore the source of all this anger. I doubt it is from living in the south, since I have lived in the south and I did not experience anger as part of the southern charm. I suspect, your readers will be less defensive, if you could tone it down a bit. Just a sugestion!
Also, I lived in Richmond, if that helps you think of my southern living experience. If I recall, people go to Virginia Beach to drink and club. Try experiencing Russian woman from a different city than Va. Beach.