Hey I'm headed to Odessa in a couple weeks. I was wondering if anyone has attended the socials there ot too the city for that matter? Do you think I'll be at a disatvantage because of my age? I've noticed alot of the women are looking for older men.
By all means go and experience Odessa. But to answer your question from my point of view.... Yes, you are toooo young. I think most women will not think you are serious and that your age is a problem, but who knows, maybe you will be lucky
Well, lets look at this realistically. You will be looking for a girl ages 18-22. (I am guessing you live in the USA and don't want to be put in jail for attempting to marry your wife, so age 18+ it is.) So doing a search of all girls from Odessa that will net you about 17 girls total to choose from on this entire site. Kind of bad chances I would think.
To give you some background about me and share some of my own personal experiences, I started my search at age 24. I am now age 31. During that gap of 7 years I wrote to quite a few girls but not a single one really wrote back to me regularly or considered me seriously until I got closer to 30 years old. Then I turned 30 and had quite a few writing to me. So from my own experience I will have to say that most girls will not take you seriously. From what I have observed, most girls are looking for a guy about 5 to 10 years older than they are. Outside of that age range I would have to say your chances will be very slim indeed. As Crash suggested, you may get lucky and find a girl interested in you and take you seriously - but from my own experiences the girls on this site under age 23 or 24 do it mostly for something to do and in many cases are not that serious about marriage yet since they usually have potential men to date in their own country close to that age and are often busy with their studies and college life. That is just my personal opinion though.
Following some info I read before (and also some feedback from my fiancee) - most girls from the FSU will get married early. Usually by their early to mid-20's. If they are not married by age 26 then many consider them "old maids" and they are sometimes labelled as being "unmarriable". So yes, you could very well be able to go to Odessa and meet a young girl in her very early 20's who you could fall in love with and be married. Conversly though, she will be in much higher demand because she will be in college around eligible men from her own country. So how serious she is about leaving the Ukraine to move to another country could be a pretty big unknown and a gamble.
I think the best question to ask is how serious are you and are you truly prepared to support and care for a wife? Financially alone it could be $10-$20k just going through the formalities of getting her to the United States. Not counting everything she will need once she gets here such as a car, suitable clothes, possibly a house (most want to live in their own house to raise their family) and other things.
Very good point Brian, People may have the cash for a plane ticket, but that's the cheap part of the process and your figures are by no means overly estimated.
Thank you for the information guys. To answer your question I'm actually in Germany in the USAF but I'm coming to the end of my enlistment. I'm not poor, but by no means am I rich. I still have a lot of things I need to accomplish in life. I'm just ready to settle down and am looking for someone who will stick with me through the whole process. I've had my fair share of American women, but most I've been with have princess syndrome, or have some serious emotional issues. I don't know maybe I'm just really good at picking the wrong ones.
I'm going to try to be optimistic about the whole trip, and if I do find the right person be honest with her so she knows my exact situation. I figure that way if she does want to be with me it is for the right reasons. I've heard it is a beautiful city and interesting culture so I cant really go wrong. Thanks again.
Anewlife, on this site there are many many girls but not all the girls in FSU. They start from 17 and go to +65. I have seen them advertise for a guy from 18 to say, 35. I just came from Gorlovka and I meet 3 girls under 20, very beautiful, very nice but just not to be. Now on this site there was manbe 50 girls from gorlovka and maybe 20 that fitted into my seach engine, But when I got there things never worked out with the girl I went to see so I went to the agency there and asked to meet some other girls. We went though there computer and there was something like maybe 250 girls. Why are they not all on this site, I do not know. The point is (brian M) just because there is only 17 gils that come up in your seach engine dose not mean a thing. If you go to Odessa there will be girls girls girls and if you go to socials, may girls may be there who are not on the internet. Stop asking these so called profesionals who have no actual experience and go and have a good time. If you are in germany, what do you have to lose as it is so close. Many girls seek older men because they are the ones mostly looking although they have no problem with that. I know a guy who brought one to Austrlia when he was 21 and that was 7 years ago, hes doing o.k. Seek and you will find young anewlife and take no notice of the unbelievers.
Gonna add 2 penorth here guys,
there are exceptions in all cases, and I know of one Russian girl who is 26 and married a 23 year old US man, they live in Cli and are very happy, so its not definate that if you are only 22 you wont meet and marry an FSU woman, but the norm is 5 to 10 years older for the man, as mentioned above.
nice to see you about Tim, just back from Italy where I formally proposed to my girl in St peters square in Venice, a magic moment.....Hows it going with Natasha?
anewlife
I also attended the Socials in Odessa. I'm guessing that you are going with A Foreign Affair? If so say hi to a "James M." for me. He's an older guy (well, older than you anyway) whom I met on tour last year with European Connections. I know he will be there in the small select group of you this year - and if you tell him that Jim from last years trip says Hi, you'll freak him out.
But getting back to the subject at hand - there was only one really young guy in the group last year - he was also around 22. He disn't seem to have any trouble at all. He ended up starting fiance visa papers with perhaps the most attractive Moldovan woman (about 18 years old) I have ever seen.
During the Socials I asked my translator to get the attention of a woman whom I could only see from a distance. When she drew close I could see that she was younger than I had estimated and soon she told me that she was 17!! Obviously I did not pursue her. (I'm 46 by the way.)
But contrary to what I mention above - many of the younger girls expressed no interest at all in talking to older men. At 22 if you appear mature and responsible - you could very well draw some interest.
Being that most FSU women prefer older men, I strongly suggest you either:
1) Research, obtain and carry a list of Odessa elementary grade schools to help find a suitable female for your age group when you get there...
2) Cease and desist from any further attempts to find a woman for a serious relationship until you are at least 28 years of age.
3) Screw everything female that moves within striking distance for the next 6 years.
Believe it or not, eastern women who today will not take you seriously understand that's what you're supposed to do to build your character, career, assets, value scale and overall direction in life.
4) Summarily, permanently and categorically disregard any and all influence and advice on relationships you may have soaked in from your US mom if she raised you as a single parent.
You have arrived to the one website whose members may efficiently act as adopted fathers for your misguided goals.
Good luck, son...:)
Okay, toad would be the third person I would want to meet in the real world (even if he is a little wierd). He makes excellent points even if they oppose mine a little. He's wise beyond his years - unless of course he's actually really really really old.
We should all have a get-together one day including... tradman, ensata, wtrav, WorldTraveler and of course the two all ready mentioned (TimH and Thunder) and so many others. Ptichka would certainly be welcome (very very welcome). Eeyore, chipcher and a few others who seem to have gone to the great troll heaven in the sky can stay wherever they are.