What the hell are you talking about? Do you mean having family values means you will not be having sex with your current or future wife? Free sex? What's that? Are we talking about the 60's? You really should better explain what you mean.
I am in favor of both untill I find the right girl. My last trip was to meet this girl but it was not to be. I met some others and this one turned out to be an animal doing things I have only before seen "in those movies". I was loving it. As it turns out she was also a realy nice girl and spending time with her was more than pleasent. I had a great holiday. Did I find what I was looking for? Maybe not. Do I regret going? Definently not!!
"....One group in favour of 'Family Values'
and
One group in favour of 'Free Sex'.
Am I wrong?..."
Sssshhhheeesshhhh...you forgot to mention the Family Sex, Valuable Sex and Free Family groups.
Come on...don't you know those groups are just as big as the ones you mentioned?
It is just that to my untrained eye it distinctly looked like some men were looking for
"the one and only" with whom they could live "till death do you part" and bring up their children,
while others put emphasis on multiple partners - the more, the better. The latter would probably prefer not to produce children (?).
And there would not be much competition between those groups, so there would be room for both, I guess.
hoenissen there are many other groups, even inside the 2 you mentioned. For example in the group of 'Family Values' I bet there are such people who can't have children (because of some health problems or anything else) but they still seek love for the rest of their lives...
nothing wrong with going over (by plane) and staying there for some time (in a hotel) and doing things tourists do (amoungst others sightseeing).
But you, old phart, have not been there yet by the sounds of it - you think all that is 'free'???
It's going to cost you top dollar me ol' weasel, and no outcome other than a pleasant time is guaranteed. Take ID's story for instance, going for someone specific. But if that does not work you're going to sulk in your room?
Not him, not me or any other normal guy. Look around on the streets there - a simple 'hi' can go for miles, but maybe you're the shy type. And very very often a hi is followed by a 'bye'. The only thing you've got right is life is free, but if you're unwilling to make the most of it then goodluck.
And 'Old-Fashioned Monogamous Marriage' has nothing to do with sex between two consenting adults - because both tend to enjoy this, but maybe that's news to you.
I do not think it is 'free' - somebody called it 'free' because he did not pay for it.
You too distinguish between
a) 'Old-Fashioned Monogamous Marriage'
and
b) '...sex between two consenting adults ...'
as far as I can see.
(although one would assume that 'a)' included 'b)' )
Some men go there for one reason, others for another reason.
Would you rather call it A Tale of two Groups ?
Or what?
"And 'Old-Fashioned Monogamous Marriage' has nothing to do with sex between two consenting adults - because both tend to enjoy this, but maybe that's news to you."
Hey, are you saying that 'Old-Fashioned Monogamous Marriage' and '...sex between two consenting adults ...'
are mutually exclusive ????
You don't get it do you?
I knew it was gonna be news.
On a wholly different point, who rattled your pisspot? Was talking to Hoenix, said 'nix to you.
Now where is good ol' Eeeeyooore - being slaughtered for Nassi Goreng, or hiding behind the Van?
Thunder I think Hoenix and Geriatrix are one in the same. The ghost of eeyore still lingers in these post's. I think I would find another
hobby besides having 5 email addresses with different names just to print the same old jibberish in here.
I'm convinced about it, but add another heap of names. Split multiple personalities, all not entirely unintelligent however insecure and boring as hell, and due to the aforementioned nature, hiding behind names, likely to be dishonest as well as suffering from an inferiority-complex. Add being self-confessed poor as a rat, a penchant for dated history and an inherent curiosity towards the world's nationalities, and all adds up to a rather transparent poster using obscure software and/or machine.
Try WinXP with IE Van, and add Word also. Stick to one (1) name, and if you're too old to remember it - write it down! Then stick to one subject, do your homework at home (= not here), and try to be really overly clear when asking something, as pointing-only causes people to look the other way.